Pvc pipe snorkel?

[long stroke]

Hi there:)
I need a snorkel for my d1 and don't wan't to spend hundreds on a safari, so i thought i'd make a pvc one, has anyone got any pics,tips or tricks on making one??


CHEERS TIM.

[Tombie]

Hi there:)
I need a snorkel for my d1 and don't wan't to spend hundreds on a safari, so i thought i'd make a pvc one, has anyone got any pics,tips or tricks on making one??


CHEERS TIM.

Yes.... DONT! ;)

PVC goes brittle in sunlight, and cracks easily when hit.

Plus PVC snorkels look so "Ghetto" :angel:

At least do it using Stainless if you dont want a moulded one.

[haggisbasher]

been thinking of doing this with my 'Fender. Stainless that is.....

just wondering if o/d 80mm would be OK Tho?

C

[weeds]

what about exhaust pipe, psimpson7 from memory got one made up, a search should pick up his thread

[dmdigital]

As Tombie said, don't. I'd also add don't buy one of the el cheapo snorkel kits on the market as they are also a POS.

That said you could use a 3" diameter black poly pipe as it is UV stabilised etc. Still going to look ugly as sin and be very heavy.

I suspect if you hunt around you may be able to pick up snorkel for a 200Tdi Disco cheap (even a Safari). After all its now 16yo+ vehicle. Kind of thing that could come up on eBay in in a stock clearance. Also try Triumph Rover Spares for one off a wreck

[weeds]

what about exhaust pipe, psimpson7 from memory got one made up, a search should pick up his thread

opps had defender on my mind

by the way....who is older the disoc or you;)

[long stroke]

Man i'm glad i asked:eek:
Looks like stainless or exhaust pipe is the go, i'll look into it some more.


CHEERS TIM.

[cucinadio]

still think the mantecs look the best!!!

cheers

[long stroke]

opps had defender on my mind

by the way....who is older the disoc or you;)

The disco:D
It's 1992 and i'm 1993:angel:

TIM.

[weeds]

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/56951-making-snorkel.html

Home made snorkel - data points [Archive] - Expedition Portal Forums (http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-3831.html)

[dobbo]

Have a look at the Southdown 4X4 website.


Southdown sell their seconds kits on pommie Ebay, dirt cheap.

[V8Landy]

Hi there:)
I need a snorkel for my d1 and don't wan't to spend hundreds on a safari, so i thought i'd make a pvc one, has anyone got any pics,tips or tricks on making one??


CHEERS TIM.

PM Siska i will model mine off it.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stainlessdw5.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

[rovercare]

Shame its not a Rangie, 1 90 degree bend cut in the right place, 2' o pipe and ta..da... a snorkel :D

[dmdigital]

Have a look at the Southdown 4X4 website.


Southdown sell their seconds kits on pommie Ebay, dirt cheap.
What's a SECONDS KIT for a snorkel? One that leaks like a sieve:confused:

[Blknight.aus]

PVC snorkles...

its like buying edible gstrings for fat chicks...

you can, but you dont.

[V8Landy]

PVC snorkles...

its like buying edible gstrings for fat chicks...

you can, but you dont.

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

[Slunnie]

I think PVC pipe snorkels can be done well though. Here is one of my fav's.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/3062000-3062999/3062779_2_full.jpg

[long stroke]

Thanks everyone!!
evan though everyone is against pvc i think i might still make one for the hell of it, and then replace it with a mandrel exhaust bent one when i start driving it more.........i just wan't to see why everyone thinks they are so ugly:D
It will only cost me $20 or so;)

CHEERS TIM.

[Psimpson7]

Hi Tim,

I looked at using PVC but its not ideal as already stated.

3" pipe is plenty

Here is mine. It only cost $180

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/933.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/934.jpg

Cheers
Pete

[long stroke]

Hi Tim,

I looked at using PVC but its not ideal as already stated.

3" pipe is plenty

Here is mine. It only cost $180

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/933.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/934.jpg

Cheers
Pete


Thanks Pete:)
Do you have any troubles with dust and crap getting in seeing you don't have a head on it??
I love the look of it, i think i'll be doing something along those lines.

CHEERS TIM.

[Psimpson7]

Hey Mate,

No none atall. Even up north it didn't seem to get any dust in. I took the filter out a couple of times to check.

It seems to work really well.

If you do get a tube one made by someone, leave the car there when they do it if you can as it will mean they get a neater result

another picture of it slightly in use:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/11/295.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/01/802.jpg

[CaverD3]

You could felexible aluminiem hose. Be careful using anything that is not manufactured and cost a fortune. ;) You can cop some flack. :(


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/928.jpg



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[Cameron_Def]

You could felexible aluminiem hose. Be careful using anything that is not manufactured and cost a fortune. ;) You can cop some flack. :(


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/928.jpg



DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Removable Snorkel (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic14190.html)

I am sorry .. but that is an abomination ... how much is that car worth, and you can not fork out for a real snorkel .. I would rather NOT have one than that pile of **** hanging off my 4wd.

[cucinadio]

Fitting a snorkel to a Land Rover Discovery using drainpipe! (http://www.landyworld.co.uk/diydiscosnorkel.html)

here you go mate

cheers

[walker]

PM Siska i will model mine off it.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7725/stainlessdw5.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stainlessdw5.jpg)http://img230.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)


That looks great. I think I will make mine for the Rangie in the same way. Although I think it might be better with the intake pointing backwards rather than straight up.

[Tombie]

PVC snorkles...

its like buying edible gstrings for fat chicks...

you can, but you dont.

:MileStone::TakeABow::Rolling:

[Slunnie]

That looks great. I think I will make mine for the Rangie in the same way. Although I think it might be better with the intake pointing backwards rather than straight up.
That'd be ok with a Safari top on it. I like it also, perhaps it may work my my ute also.

[Slunnie]

I am sorry .. but that is an abomination ... how much is that car worth, and you can not fork out for a real snorkel .. I would rather NOT have one than that pile of **** hanging off my 4wd.
Cant say anything nice, then dont say it at all. ;)

[walker]

Cant say anything nice, then dont say it at all. ;)

ok... __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ________________




Nope, cant do it. That really does look terrible. Sorry!

[p38arover]

Not a Disco but here is my home made snorkel:

Ron's Range Rover Classic Modifications (http://members.optusnet.com.au/thebecketts/rover/rovermod.htm#snorkel)

[Blknight.aus]

I will admit I like to use PVC pipe and flex joints to mock up a snorkle and there is more than one 4x4 getting around with one of my mockups still fitted.

Cheap bastards...

[dobbo]

I am sorry .. but that is an abomination ... how much is that car worth, and you can not fork out for a real snorkel .. I would rather NOT have one than that pile of **** hanging off my 4wd.


You forgot to mention the 2 important points

A: It's removable

B: It works

Obviously not a problem with the D3 in the picture (now) don't know when the picture came out. What does one do if the manufacturers don't make a snorkel for your particular model? I have never seen a complete snorkel kit for a P38a or RRC or a 4bd1 County for that matter. So if your going to have to source all the pipe, elbows, angles and such for under the bonnet why buy a complete kit to accomodate the look of a normal snorkel then chuck away half the kit because it is not required? I have seen some very good home made snorkels that one would have to look twice to confirm that they are not aftermarket productions. I have also seen some absolute shockers that look like the abomination on the D3.

[long stroke]

Hey Mate,

No none atall. Even up north it didn't seem to get any dust in. I took the filter out a couple of times to check.

It seems to work really well.

If you do get a tube one made by someone, leave the car there when they do it if you can as it will mean they get a neater result

another picture of it slightly in use:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/11/295.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/01/802.jpg

Great pics pete!!
They sound like the go if it survived the cape, we are constently cleaning out our other discos filter due to it's intake spot in the guard.

TIM.

[long stroke]

Fitting a snorkel to a Land Rover Discovery using drainpipe! (http://www.landyworld.co.uk/diydiscosnorkel.html)

here you go mate

cheers

Thanks mate!!
Now that doesn't look so bad does it, i like it!

CHEERS TIM.

[cucinadio]

Thanks mate!!
Now that doesn't look so bad does it, i like it!

CHEERS TIM.


no!!!...and it beats being ripped off buy the powers that be ;)...why else are we all helping each other come up with ways to beat the powers to be ....if its OK to build some draws for the back of your truck .....(at a tenth of the cost !!!!)..then its certainly OK to build a bloody snorkel ;)......whatever your happy with mate its your truck and yo have to live with it.:D

me!..... l like the way Mantecs go into the guard and when i find a really good looking way to do l will ..again at a tenth of the cost:D

cheers

Matt

[CaverD3]

You forgot to mention the 2 important points

A: It's removable

B: It works


Thanks for pointing that out Dobbo, :D seems to be lost on some. ;)


Obviously not a problem with the D3 in the picture (now) don't know when the picture came out. What does one do if the manufacturers don't make a snorkel for your particular model? I have never seen a complete snorkel kit for a P38a or RRC or a 4bd1 County for that matter. So if your going to have to source all the pipe, elbows, angles and such for under the bonnet why buy a complete kit to accomodate the look of a normal snorkel then chuck away half the kit because it is not required? I have seen some very good home made snorkels that one would have to look twice to confirm that they are not aftermarket productions. I have also seen some absolute shockers that look like the abomination on the D3.

The others were available at the time but didn't want to put holes in the fender and didn't want it on when I didn't need it.
If you read the post, I made it after a nasty scare on the Kowmung crossing.
Most of the time it is off and looks better then than if it had a safarion. :angel:

This again proves to be a divisive issue; whether you put mods on that do not look good.
Some think it is ok, others think the looks are more important than functionality or practicality.

[mark2]

Thanks for pointing that out Dobbo, :D seems to be lost on some. ;)



The others were available at the time but didn't want to put holes in the fender and didn't want it on when I didn't need it.
If you read the post, I made it after a nasty scare on the Kowmung crossing.
Most of the time it is off and looks better then than if it had a safarion. :angel:

This again proves to be a divisive issue; whether you put mods on that do not look good.
Some think it is ok, others think the looks are more important than functionality or practicality.


A removable snorkel makes a lot of sense if it only goes on when you do a water crossing which isnt that often for most people. So what if its ugly or has a lot of frictional losses if it only appears for a water crossing.

After fitting my Safari snorkel, I think performance actually decreased. It certainly didnt increase as touted by the manufacturers.

[dobbo]

This again proves to be a divisive issue; whether you put mods on that do not look good.
Some think it is ok, others think the looks are more important than functionality or practicality.


Personally I'd prefer your snorkel than the H.R Giger styled snorkel available from LR for the D3.

The one on Muddymech and Dullbirds 110 looks OK, but thats a 110 you could bolt anything within reason to it and it will still look the part.

[F4Phantom]

I have another idea that I used and I think it actually looked fine. I got flexi tube from clark rubber and made a nice looking snorkel for about $60. I used pvc pipe in it to keep the hose straight where it needed to be.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/929.jpg

[JDNSW]

A removable snorkel makes a lot of sense if it only goes on when you do a water crossing which isnt that often for most people. So what if its ugly or has a lot of frictional losses if it only appears for a water crossing.

After fitting my Safari snorkel, I think performance actually decreased. It certainly didnt increase as touted by the manufacturers.

It would make sense that performance decreased with a snorkel, although the difference would be pretty small (particularly with a turbocharger where the turbo would usually make up for the increased restriction).

But it is a mistake to assume that snorkels are useful only for deep water crossings. In fact, their main use is to extend the period between filter services in dusty conditions, and to a small degree to intake cooler air.

John

[paulthepilot_5]

You could felexible aluminiem hose. Be careful using anything that is not manufactured and cost a fortune. ;) You can cop some flack. :(


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/928.jpg



DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Removable Snorkel (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic14190.html)

:eek: what part of the robot from lost in space did you get that off?


:wasntme: :angel:

[agrojnr]

Heres mine cost about $100 all up

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/921.jpg

Adam

[Slunnie]

Adam how is all of that mounted to the car? Are they turbo pipe joiners between the pipes?

[mark2]

It would make sense that performance decreased with a snorkel, although the difference would be pretty small (particularly with a turbocharger where the turbo would usually make up for the increased restriction).

But it is a mistake to assume that snorkels are useful only for deep water crossings. In fact, their main use is to extend the period between filter services in dusty conditions, and to a small degree to intake cooler air.

John

True, particularly when a cyclonic pre-cleaner is fitted. But I suspect most people have water crossings in mind when they fit a snorkel.

[long stroke]

The main reason i want to fit a snorkel is to keep the crap out of the new air filter, on our other disco we have to blow it out after every trip away:mad:

TIM.

[long stroke]

Heres mine cost about $100 all up

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/921.jpg

Adam

Hey Adam:).....that looks sweeeeeeet!!

TIM.

[Corgie Carrier]

Heres mine cost about $100 all up

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/921.jpg

Adam

To those who use a snorkel top like this one and want to keep their air filter cleaner.

I find it helps if you unscrew the front grill and place some fly screen over the front and then put the grill back on, then trim the fly screen neatly around the edge.

I have cut out all the bugs that usually end up in the air filter.

Neale

[long stroke]

Thats a handy peice o advice!!
Thanks

TIM.

[long stroke]

Ok so whats the best way to cut the hole in the guard??

TIM.

[Psimpson7]

Depends on what tools you have and the shape of the hole really.

If its circular a holesaw would be one way to do it, but I would at least tape the face of the wing to minimise the risk of it damaging the paint.

If you dont have the relevant size hole saw you could again tape the wing, drawing the hole you want to cut and then chain drill round the outside, filing the resultant hole to get the neatest result.

[long stroke]

I don't think we have the right size whole saw, so it looks like it might have to be the chain drill method, or it might be worth buying a whole saw seeing we need to make two snorkels;)

TIM.

[agrojnr]

Adam how is all of that mounted to the car? Are they turbo pipe joiners between the pipes?


They ar 3 inch silicone hoses off ebay and I made up some stainless brackets that fit under the clamps and pop rivit to the car

Adam

[walker]

So was that just 3" stainless tube and if so, how and wheredid you get that for $100.

Great job BTW.

[mcrover]

A. You can get UV stabilised PVC pipe, we use it all the time on the golf course as well as most storm water PVC is UV stabilised as it runs out side the house in the sunlight most of the time.

B. I would be inclined to use Poly though and fill it with sand, heat it with a heat gun and bend it around a mandral to get you shape, this would negate the need for any joins which will be where you end up getting water in if you do.

C. Go buy a hole saw to cut the hole, measure twice and cut once and as in the above post, Tape the panel with masking tape to prevent the paint from getting all scratched up and chipping too much.

D. I think temporary snorkles look crap but who cares if it is only on the car when it's swimming, they are better than putting something on that may look crap all the time as do some of the D3 ones on the market.

E. I think PVC and Stainless snorkles with several joiners look a bit budget but if thats why your doing it then there is no need to worry about it, the worry should be, "Did I do those hose clamps up properly as the bonnet goes under water :p

F. I think that exhast tube one on the Deefa looks great and would be great to put a donaldson on the end of and make some more room under the bonnet for other add ons :D

[walker]

E. I think PVC and Stainless snorkles with several joiners look a bit budget but if thats why your doing it then there is no need to worry about it, the worry should be, "Did I do those hose clamps up properly as the bonnet goes under water :p



I think if the boonnet of my Rangie went under water with 36" tyres and a 5" lift I would be worried about a lot more than the hose clamps! :p

[mcrover]

I think if the boonnet of my Rangie went under water with 36" tyres and a 5" lift I would be worried about a lot more than the hose clamps! :p

Yeah......So would I :eek:

[Slunnie]

I think if the boonnet of my Rangie went under water with 36" tyres and a 5" lift I would be worried about a lot more than the hose clamps! :p
Me too... like if I should take stills or video. :D

[walker]

I went through the fast flowing Goulburn River a few weeks ago in the Pajero with water over the bonnet and no snorkel.......and not one person got a picture! :mad::mad:

I did have a michelle's sacs water blind on, I might be an idiot but I'm not stupid! :angel:

[87County]

........I might be an idiot but I'm not stupid! :angel:

:D:D:D

..... is this an oxymoron, Ron?

... and I'm sure you're not an idiot Adam...:D

[agrojnr]

So was that just 3" stainless tube and if so, how and wheredid you get that for $100.

Great job BTW.


I work in the metal game and a couple of blokes owed me:cool:

Adam

[long stroke]

A. You can get UV stabilised PVC pipe, we use it all the time on the golf course as well as most storm water PVC is UV stabilised as it runs out side the house in the sunlight most of the time.

B. I would be inclined to use Poly though and fill it with sand, heat it with a heat gun and bend it around a mandral to get you shape, this would negate the need for any joins which will be where you end up getting water in if you do.

C. Go buy a hole saw to cut the hole, measure twice and cut once and as in the above post, Tape the panel with masking tape to prevent the paint from getting all scratched up and chipping too much.

D. I think temporary snorkles look crap but who cares if it is only on the car when it's swimming, they are better than putting something on that may look crap all the time as do some of the D3 ones on the market.

E. I think PVC and Stainless snorkles with several joiners look a bit budget but if thats why your doing it then there is no need to worry about it, the worry should be, "Did I do those hose clamps up properly as the bonnet goes under water :p

F. I think that exhast tube one on the Deefa looks great and would be great to put a donaldson on the end of and make some more room under the bonnet for other add ons :D

Thanks:thumbsup:
I want to make a pvc snorkel just to keep the dirt out of the filter, then later on i will do one like pete's exhaust pipe one;)

CHEERS TIM.

[JDNSW]

True, particularly when a cyclonic pre-cleaner is fitted. But I suspect most people have water crossings in mind when they fit a snorkel.

Perhaps, but I suspect most people fit snorkels because the dealer/aftermarket supplier had a good salesman! (or they think it looks good)

I have never felt the serious need for a snorkel (although I have thought about it), despite the fact that I have often waded well above the manufacturer's maximum limit, occasionally above bonnet level, and live in a very dusty environment. The intake on the 110 is well placed and the improvement with a snorkel would be fairly small. Plus on the 110 the snorkel would need to be on the right and interfere with my vision.

John

[Slunnie]

I think that they're cheap insurance. Ive seen too many hydrauliced motors.

[long stroke]

Yeah it wouldn't be nice drowning your pride and joy.

TIM.

[JDNSW]

I think that they're cheap insurance. Ive seen too many hydrauliced motors.

One is too many! But in over forty years of offroad driving I have yet to see one resulting from wading*, possibly because most of my driving has been in the drier parts of the country.

*The only ones that come to mind resulted from dropping valve heads. (not in Landrovers)

John

[dobbo]

Yeah it wouldn't be nice drowning your pride and joy.

TIM.


That all depends on what pride and joy your talking about. The cars or the wife?

[cucinadio]

That all depends on what pride and joy your talking about.
The cars or the wife?


aaawwwoouuccchhhhhh !!!

[long stroke]

That all depends on what pride and joy your talking about. The cars or the wife?

The car, don't have a wife.

TIM.

[dobbo]

The car, don't have a wife.

TIM.


If your wise.......................

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I'll admit I hadn't bothered with this thread... but I was wrong.. it's a classic!

To snorkels - we recently put one on our car. I did it reluctantly. We had a trip planned to the gulf and I wasn't sure how much water was going to be involved!

[GuyG]

Couple of questions

Does fitting a snorkel increase the amount of fuel used due to the extra drag on a classic rangie?

I've got a snorkel (sitting on the verandah:eek:) think its 3 inch pipe which has the inlet facing towards the back - I see Pete has his facing the side - What are there any reasons for or against the directions in which people have the snorkel openings?

ps I've also got a pair of plastic tube snorkels which fibreglass bends that came with a project vehicle - based on the comments in this thread, maybe they'll stay in the back of the car:D

Cheers

[dobbo]

Couple of questions

Does fitting a snorkel increase the amount of fuel used due to the extra drag on a classic rangie?

I've got a snorkel (sitting on the verandah:eek:) think its 3 inch pipe which has the inlet facing towards the back - I see Pete has his facing the side - What are there any reasons for or against the directions in which people have the snorkel openings?

ps I've also got a pair of plastic tube snorkels which fibreglass bends that came with a project vehicle - based on the comments in this thread, maybe they'll stay in the back of the car:D

Cheers


Remember that it is a 4WD essentially the front on profile is a box and unless it is profiled at the front roof chopped and suspension lowered considerably. IMHO I think the void of air inbetween the bumper and the ground would destroy more aerodynamic qualities than a snorkel.

[PhilipA]

Does fitting a snorkel increase the amount of fuel used due to the extra drag on a classic rangie?

I recently had a bit of rush of blood where I filled in the gap between the bonnet and rad with rubber strip , blocked up the vents in the spoiler, and took off the snorkel and added air management tabs to the rear of the car.

I didn't notice any observable difference. I recently took it all off, as I was afraid my spoiler would bend on river crossings, and that the engine compartment was getting hotter. ( I had a problem with a blocked fuel pump intake, and thought it may be vaporisation, until I found out the real cause)

If you have the snorkel facing forward, you can get the filter paper wet in downpour and you end up with lots of bugs etc on the filter. On the other hand, there is a small but measurable positive pressure at cruise so the car feels livelier. I face mine forward, as paper filter is usually OK when it dries out.
If it is facing back, I feel that you lose a bit of power , due to the negative pressure at the face of the intake.
Regards Philip A

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Remember that it is a 4WD essentially the front on profile is a box and unless it is profiled at the front roof chopped and suspension lowered considerably. IMHO I think the void of air inbetween the bumper and the ground would destroy more aerodynamic qualities than a snorkel.

That is spot on. These days when manufacturers chase aero gains they clean up the underside first. The Lotus Elite achieved .29 in 1957 without the aid of computers! When you look at one the underside is completely flat.

[GuyG]

Remember that it is a 4WD essentially the front on profile is a box and unless it is profiled at the front roof chopped and suspension lowered considerably. IMHO I think the void of air inbetween the bumper and the ground would destroy more aerodynamic qualities than a snorkel.

I understand this, but the only thing that would be getting changed is the addition of the snorkel, I can get reasonable fuel consumption figures for a 3.9 V8 - well I'm happy with them.

Does anyone have a comparison of before and after figures for fuel consumption when the only thing that was changed was the addition of the snorkel?

[Psimpson7]

Hey Guy,

I dont have comparisons on a v8 but after fitting a safari snorkle on my td5 there was no determinable difference in economy but a slight (but noticeable) drop in power.

Just to add, the reason I guess people have them facing back is that if they enter water too quickly it doesnt run up the screen and into the opening. I just went for the side, about 30cm in, as it was the easiest and on the off chance I tipped it onto its side in a river it wouldnt run in!

Cheers
Pete

[long stroke]

A friend of ours fitted a snorkel to his d2 4ltr v8 and he noticed slightly better fuel consumption and maybe a slight increase in power;)

CHEERS TIM.

[walker]

I always thought a snorkel would increase fuel consumption but in the recent test done in 4WD Action, they noted a decrease in fuel consumption when a snorkel was fitted. (although very small decrease). I can only assume this is due to the fact a snorkel increase the likelihood of cold air intake rather than warm air.

I have a proper moulded fibreglass snorkel for my Rangie project but I think I am going to use just some 3" tube. I think the moulded snorkel will restrict the air flow too much. I have no proof of this and I might be totally wrong but some stainless tube looks tougher anyway. :p

[dullbird]

I always thought a snorkel would increase fuel consumption but in the recent test done in 4WD Action, they noted a decrease in fuel consumption when a snorkel was fitted. (although very small decrease). I can only assume this is due to the fact a snorkel increase the likelihood of cold air intake rather than warm air.

I have a proper moulded fibreglass snorkel for my Rangie project but I think I am going to use just some 3" tube. I think the moulded snorkel will restrict the air flow too much. I have no proof of this and I might be totally wrong
but some stainless tube looks tougher anyway. :p

see now why weren't you just honest in the first place:D

[dobbo]

I always thought a snorkel would increase fuel consumption but in the recent test done in 4WD Action, they noted a decrease in fuel consumption when a snorkel was fitted. (although very small decrease). I can only assume this is due to the fact a snorkel increase the likelihood of cold air intake rather than warm air.



Does the test start with "Once upon a time in a land far away" or am I mistaking the test with other fictional publications?

[JDNSW]

That is spot on. These days when manufacturers chase aero gains they clean up the underside first. The Lotus Elite achieved .29 in 1957 without the aid of computers! When you look at one the underside is completely flat.

About the same as Citroen in 1955 (also without computers). Their underside is not completely flat, but is slightly concave for aerodynamic reasons. The muffler is inside the ladder crossmember under the front seat, but the tailpipes and engine pipe protrude below the floor. What is notable is that the underbody space is smallest between the front wheels and nearly doubles from there to the rear bumper, again, for aerodynamic reasons. Giving a car of almost 50% higher mass than the contemporary Holden, but with a top speed 20% higher on less power (150kph on 60hp).

John

[long stroke]

Well we got started on making a "pvc snorkel"...
Chain drilled..
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel001fu0.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5299/pvcsnorkel002gt9.th.jpg (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel002gt9.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
Cut out..
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4781/pvcsnorkel003lp1.th.jpg (http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel003lp1.jpg)http://img296.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5985/pvcsnorkel004iv9.th.jpg (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel004iv9.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
I don't like the squareness of the right angle peice so we might pop into bunnings tomorrow and see if they have a rounded one;)
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1623/pvcsnorkel005ln8.th.jpg (http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel005ln8.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1227/pvcsnorkel006xj0.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel006xj0.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8303/pvcsnorkel007zn1.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel007zn1.jpg)http://img403.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/659/pvcsnorkel008qb1.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel008qb1.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

TIM.

[weeds]

good start there Tim

[cucinadio]

Well we got started on making a "pvc snorkel"...
Chain drilled..
[URL=http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel001fu0.jpg]

TIM.


you go girl !!!!:D

cheers

[walker]

Well we got started on making a "pvc snorkel"...
Chain drilled..
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/989/pvcsnorkel001fu0.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel001fu0.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
http://img359.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
TIM.


You butcher!!! :p

[long stroke]

you go girl !!!!:D

cheers

Girl:confused::eek:

[long stroke]

You butcher!!! :p

I thought it looked pretty neat........thats why theres so many photos of it:p

TIM.

[cucinadio]

Girl:confused::eek:


inner city jargon. While originally meant to be a "hip" way of telling a female friend (or in our sick australian way, a male ) that she has done something cool :D

cheers mate

[dmdigital]

Where's the hand basin going?

[cucinadio]

Where's the hand basin going?


aaoooowwwwcchhhhh!!!!:o was that really necessary??:p

cheers

[dmdigital]

Ok Probably not :angel:

It is a very neat job so far...

... but it looks to much like under the sink.

[dobbo]

First comes the snorkel


I hope you find a nice flavour for the FC undies Tim.

[long stroke]

Where's the hand basin going?

Mmmmmmmmmmm decisions, decisions;):p

TIM.

[Rangier Rover]

It will look fine. It's a template for the stainless jobbie later on right:p

[long stroke]

It will look fine. It's a template for the stainless jobbie later on right:p

Yep:angel:

[rovercare]

It will look fine. It's a template for the stainless jobbie later on right:p

That's what I was thinking, you can buy rubber bends, cut some stainless pipe to lenght and your done, PVC snorkel? *shudders* ick:(

[long stroke]

That's what I was thinking, you can buy rubber bends, cut some stainless pipe to lenght and your done, PVC snorkel? *shudders* ick:(

I just want to see what all the fuss is about with the pvc snorkel, i will eventually do a stainless or exhaust pipe one;)

CHEERS TIM.

[cucinadio]

Originally Posted by rovercare
That's what I was thinking, you can buy rubber bends, cut some stainless pipe to lenght and your done, PVC snorkel? *shudders* ick


I
just want to see what all the fuss is about with the pvc snorkel, i will eventually do a stainless or exhaust pipe one;)

CHEERS TIM.


"don't bite mate" ...... "don't bite" ;) there real-ling you in for the kill :D

cheers

[long stroke]

"don't bite mate" ...... "don't bite" ;) there real-ling you in for the kill :D

cheers

Resisting......................................... :eek:

[rovercare]

I just want to see what all the fuss is about with the pvc snorkel, i will eventually do a stainless or exhaust pipe one;)

CHEERS TIM.


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If you can put PVC together, you can put this together, admittedly a little dearer, but a much cooler result:cool:, for cost savings, you could use mild steel exhaust pipe and paint it:)

[RaZz0R]

mmm, have been reading this with interest. was thinking of doing a PVC or stainless for my range rover classic. I like the way Ron did his but can't figure out the pipe routing atm :) if I decided to do it, Ron gets a PM :)

[CaverD3]

Told you long stroke...........keep ducking.
Very neat job so far. You may find the rounded 90 degree quite bukly, you could shape the corner to a round, might be a better result.
I think a PVC snorkel will look just as good as a stainless with rubber joins and jubilee clips.
As long as it does the job who cares.:angel:
Once it is painted who will know. You could colour code it.:D

[Rangier Rover]

Told you long stroke...........keep ducking.
Very neat job so far. You may find the rounded 90 degree quite bukly, you could shape the corner to a round, might be a better result.
I think a PVC snorkel will look just as good as a stainless with rubber joins and jubilee clips.
As long as it does the job who cares.:angel:
Once it is painted who will know. You could colour code it.:D

Fluro pink:D

[long stroke]

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and

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https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/762.jpg

If you can put PVC together, you can put this together, admittedly a little dearer, but a much cooler result:cool:, for cost savings, you could use mild steel exhaust pipe and paint it:)

Thanks Rovercare:thumbsup:
They do look tops.............tempting

[long stroke]

Told you long stroke...........keep ducking.
Very neat job so far. You may find the rounded 90 degree quite bukly, you could shape the corner to a round, might be a better result.
I think a PVC snorkel will look just as good as a stainless with rubber joins and jubilee clips.
As long as it does the job who cares.:angel:
Once it is painted who will know. You could colour code it.:D

Thanks CaverD3:thumbsup:
I didn't like the shape of that one either so we bought a more rounded one.
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1139/pvcsnorkeljn6.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkeljn6.jpg)

CHEERS TIM.

[long stroke]

Fluro pink:D

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm:rolleyes:

TIM.

[Psimpson7]

Thats coming on Tim.

Rgds
Pete

[B92 8NW]

The stainless steel does look very good. My cousin and I picked up a heap of stainless pipe at Maria Jackson's, in a few different diameters in anticipation of a cruiser/disco snorkel building weekend. Thanks for the ideas.

How does one cut the stainless pipe best? Is it necessary to use any adhesives between the joiners and pipe?

[long stroke]

Little update..
Well we assembled it today but the cross section is about an inch to long so we might have to put a dirty great agrucultural join in the middle:(
Anyway here are some pics..
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9097/pvcsnorkel001fr1.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel001fr1.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
A bit of rubber hose around the hole to stop dust, water and vibration;)
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3550/pvcsnorkel002qi8.th.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel002qi8.jpg)http://img337.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
Roughly sitting in position to give you an idea on what it will look like;)
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4631/pvcsnorkel003iq0.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel003iq0.jpg)http://img206.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

CHEERS TIM.

[shorty disco]

wat size pipe are you using? 100mm?

[rovercare]

The stainless steel does look very good. My cousin and I picked up a heap of stainless pipe at Maria Jackson's, in a few different diameters in anticipation of a cruiser/disco snorkel building weekend. Thanks for the ideas.

How does one cut the stainless pipe best? Is it necessary to use any adhesives between the joiners and pipe?

Drop saw, 4-5" grinder, 9" anything:D

No adhesive with the stainless, PVC, could do with a little pipe cement, but easier not to goo it, so its easy to pull off to fit a steel/stainless one:angel:

[long stroke]

wat size pipe are you using? 100mm?

80mm thick wall;)

[mox]

Snorkel /rollframe combo?
Following on from photos in an earlier post of a Defender with a steel tube snorkel and also an external roll cage frame: Would like to make a snorkel for mine and a roll frame / heavy roof rack supporter could be handy too. Has anyone seen or heard of the snorkel pipe - of 3 inch or thereabouts diameter and appropriate thickness being positioned so it is also an upright for the frame and the separate upright on that side could be dispensed with?

If I make one, hope to have a go at this.

[clean32]

you can use a heat gun on PVC, if you have any little tweeking to do

[long stroke]

Yep we had to heat and expand it a bit to fit over the air filter arm.

CHEERS TIM.

[long stroke]

;)Well we did away with the join in the middle to shorten it:)
We ended up just cutting and shortening it then expanding it over a bit of the join pipe (hard to explain)
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6771/pvcsnorkel004cg0.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel004cg0.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
It didn't turn out to bad;)
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3669/pvcsnorkel005du1.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel005du1.jpg)http://img89.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
By the way dad priced a snorkel head at TJM today between 100 and $150:o:eek:
Does anyone no where to get a better deal??
He also priced a precleaner head $37 so that might be the go;)

CHEERS TIM.

[CaverD3]

Check fleabay pretty light so not much postage.

[JohnF]

Snorkel /rollframe combo?
Following on from photos in an earlier post of a Defender with a steel tube snorkel and also an external roll cage frame: Would like to make a snorkel for mine and a roll frame / heavy roof rack supporter could be handy too. Has anyone seen or heard of the snorkel pipe - of 3 inch or thereabouts diameter and appropriate thickness being positioned so it is also an upright for the frame and the separate upright on that side could be dispensed with?

If I make one, hope to have a go at this.

Since, after a front tyre blowout, my son rolled our 1985 RRC and took a couple of chips of bone out of his spine, this idea of a combined snorkel/roll bar really appeals to me. So please let us know if any one does this.

[waynep]

By the way dad priced a snorkel head at TJM today between 100 and $150:o:eek:
Does anyone no where to get a better deal??
He also priced a precleaner head $37 so that might be the go;)

CHEERS TIM.

$100 or more for that bit of plastic ( TJM or ARB head) is daylight robbery.
The Donaldson pre-cleaner at around the $40 mark would be the go - keep more dust and bugs out of your aircleaner too.

[Psimpson7]

John F / Mox,

The Defender with the cage and snorkle is mine.

I think you would be struggling to make a cage, which could be approved to any rollcage / motorsport regulations which could double up as a snorkle.

I have seen people using backstays and diagnols as resevoirs for fluids, but never anyone using a 3" diamater pipe for an air intake and cage combination.

I think you would struggle to maintain the strength and integrity of the cage by cutting holes in it top and bottom to get the air in and out.

The new svx Defender 90's in the UK have a 3" cage made (I think) by a company called Protection and Performance in the uk but I think it looks a bit over bearing. If it isnt made by them for LR it is a near identical copy (Incidentally the cage on my 90 started life as one of their motorsport cages which I ammended to suit my needs)

you can see it here

Protection and Performance Land Rover SVX Style 60th<br />Anniversary Conversion (http://www.ppcages.com/index.php?page=svx)

I didnt think this was structural but they are saying it is, although it is made out of ERW, not CDS so....its maybe not the strongest option.

I guess that if you didnt want it for any form of competition you could do it, and it probably wouldnt be that difficult to do, although how you would get the air in at the top corner would be interesting.

You may also get poor visibility on the pillars.

I would probably just go for a roll hoop and that will give you the majority of the safety net that a full cage gives., and a seperate snorkle.

Edited to add, obviously all the mounting points need to go to the chassis and there is no way that you can get 3" pipe between the wing skin and the side of the bulkhead footwell.

Rgds
Pete

[long stroke]

$100 or more for that bit of plastic ( TJM or ARB head) is daylight robbery.
The Donaldson pre-cleaner at around the $40 mark would be the go - keep more dust and bugs out of your air filter too.

Ok ok, no need to say it three times:p
Yeah i agree tjm and arb just name the prices and people will still buy them:mad:
On ebay you can get a safari head for around $50...Just a little bit cheaper:eek: and they would still be making a good profit.

CHEERS TIM.

[lambrover]

I made a pvc snorkel for my D1 and it was great there are pictures on this site search , home made snorkel, I made mine run under the guard.:D

[long stroke]

Thanks mate!!
I think i have seen it;)
Anyway i'll do a search.

CHEERS TIM.

[mcrover]

I made a pvc snorkel for my D1 and it was great there are pictures on this site search , home made snorkel, I made mine run under the guard.:D

I just had a look and want to ask, did you seal around where the snorkle goes into the guard or have you provided drainage for the water that will most likely end up in the bottom?

Looks a hell of a lot neater that running on the outside of the guard but that does concern me a little.

[mox]

Following on from Pete /Psimpson7's comment about one problem with a 3 inch combined roll cage upright and snorkel tube on a Defender: He notes this size pipe will not fit between the wing skin and bulkhead footwell.

Sometimes before doing modifications or additions it is necessary to do other modifications to accomodate them. On my Defender, have already modified the air intake to make access to the right side of the motor easier. Moved the air cleaner to behind the motor similar to Isuzu. First half of two piece air cleaner-turbocharger hose connects it to turbocharger. Air cleaner canister intake is pointed upwards and second half of this hose with right angle connected to it. Extra 2 and three quarter inch tube goes straight over brake pedal housing , which has had a bit cut out to allow sufficient space for it under the bonnet. Also piece cut out of rear corner of bonnet. Intake pipe goes out to where the rollcage/snorkel upright would go and round a right angle into it.

With this setup, 3 inch tube is only necessary above the wing and whatever is structurally appropriate to support a roll cage can be used under it. The tube can be located behind the windscreen pillar from the driver's viewpoint to minimise obstruction to vision. Also, as well as not having another separate roll cage pillar beside it, there would be no snorkel pipe going down the side of the wing into the standard intake hole.

Other bonuses from this: Probably slightly increased air flow through the radiator because air can now escape through what was the air intake hole in the wing. Also. probably better air flow into air cleaner because the smaller standard plastic intake tubes have been dispensed with.

Mick

[haggisbasher]

Just priced up some S/S for a snorkel...... it is 76mm dia. Any learn'd members have a take on whether it would have a big enough dia for airflow to be OK...

is on a Defender 300Tdi

Cheers

Chris

[rovercare]

Just priced up some S/S for a snorkel...... it is 76mm dia. Any learn'd members have a take on whether it would have a big enough dia for airflow to be OK...

is on a Defender 300Tdi

Cheers

Chris

3":BigThumb:

[long stroke]

Just priced up some S/S for a snorkel...... it is 76mm dia. Any learn'd members have a take on whether it would have a big enough dia for airflow to be OK...

is on a Defender 300Tdi

Cheers

Chris

Yep will be fine, i'm using 75mm;)

[haggisbasher]

cheers guys...

spoke to my steel man and he has some old bends kicking around that i can use ($25 ea) and will weld in the strainght bits for me.... all up around 100 -150 to do i think.... Any hints as to where i can get the rubber pipework to connect it to the air cleaner in the engine bay?.. Bunnings? Clarke Rubber?


pics to follow.

Chris

[EchiDna]

cheers guys...

spoke to my steel man and he has some old bends kicking around that i can use ($25 ea) and will weld in the strainght bits for me.... all up around 100 -150 to do i think.... Any hints as to where i can get the rubber pipework to connect it to the air cleaner in the engine bay?.. Bunnings? Clarke Rubber?


pics to follow.

Chris

super cheap, ebay, truck wreckers... for silicone anyway...

[CaverD3]

Got this stuff from AutoBarn:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/124.jpg

[jimbo110]

My old series 3 with a 3" exhaust tube snorkel, simple and strong, bends done at exhaust shop for $4 each.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/11/514.jpg

[cucinadio]

where can we buy the mantecs in aust .....or are they only avilab out of brit

cheers

[long stroke]

Finally i got in to finishing the pvc snorkel this week, its all done apart from a coat of paint which will come in the next few days;)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel006tt9.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
Simple alloy mounting bracket..
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel007ho9.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
$32 snorkel head from knj trucks...shore beets $100 from tjm:o
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel008vd6.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel009df7.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

CHEERS TIM.

[abaddonxi]

Good looking job.

Cheers
Simon

[Psimpson7]

Good job Tim.

Rgds
Pete.

[Tombie]

Glad your happy Tim....

But mate that things uglier than my mother in law :angel:

[long stroke]

Glad your happy Tim....

But mate that things uglier than my mother in law :angel:

Yeah yeah, i was waiting for someone to say that:D

[Fusion]

Great Job on the snorkel mate ;). Just make sure you rough up the surface a little if you want the paint to stick to the PVC :);). would look ugly if flakes of paint started coming off .

[McBrain]

Hi Tim,

You said you were using 80mm OD tube?

That snorkel head you bought, is that the 3.5" model? I understand that the standard sizes are 3" and 3.5", but I suspect that the ' 3.5" ' model actually has an internal diameter of 3.25" (or about 80mm).

Can you confirm if you used a ' 3.5" ' head and that it fits 80mm pipe?

Just trying to source parts for my own.

Cheers


Finally i got in to finishing the pvc snorkel this week, its all done apart from a coat of paint which will come in the next few days;)
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/1272/pvcsnorkel006tt9.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel006tt9.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
Simple alloy mounting bracket..
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$32 snorkel head from knj trucks...shore beets $100 from tjm:o
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CHEERS TIM.

[lokka]

Great Job on the snorkel mate ;). Just make sure you rough up the surface a little if you want the paint to stick to the PVC :);). would look ugly if flakes of paint started coming off .

pfft just use a good etch primer and dust coat it worked a treat on my PVC snorkel :D:D:D

And top job tim looks the part dont worry what the others say mate fuglys have more fun :D:D:D:p:p:p

[DiscoDave]

That looks alright! When it's painted it'll be as good as a bought one. :cool:
Just a thought, but one of the reasons I think a PVC snorkel looks unpretty is the multiple changes in diameter at the bends, maybe if you built the bends up with bog to be an single diameter they would look better?

[paulthepilot_5]

That looks alright! When it's painted it'll be as good as a bought one. :cool:
Just a thought, but one of the reasons I think a PVC snorkel looks unpretty is the multiple changes in diameter at the bends, maybe if you built the bends up with bog to be an single diameter they would look better?

If you wanted a better finish you could use the high pressure PVC pipe and fittings. They tend to be nicely rounded on the bends, and would also be a lot more bash resistant

[long stroke]

Great Job on the snorkel mate ;). Just make sure you rough up the surface a little if you want the paint to stick to the PVC :);). would look ugly if flakes of paint started coming off .

Thanks Mick:) i'm planing on ruffing it up than giving it a coat or two of primer before the final coats of black.

TIM.

[long stroke]

Hi Tim,

You said you were using 80mm OD tube?

That snorkel head you bought, is that the 3.5" model? I understand that the standard sizes are 3" and 3.5", but I suspect that the ' 3.5" ' model actually has an internal diameter of 3.25" (or about 80mm).

Can you confirm if you used a ' 3.5" ' head and that it fits 80mm pipe?

Just trying to source parts for my own.

Cheers

Hi there:)
I did use the 80mm stuff, and the head is the 3"model, it didn't fit over the 80mm pipe though so i had to glue in some smaller diameter pipe (can't remember what size;))
Here are some pics...

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5674/pvcsnorkel010jh3.th.jpg (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel010jh3.jpg)
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2793/pvcsnorkel011op5.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel011op5.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1958/pvcsnorkel012bl6.th.jpg (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel012bl6.jpg)
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/769/pvcsnorkel013br2.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel013br2.jpg)https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

I glued some of the 80mm pipe into the 45degree bend, then glued some smaller diameter stuff inside the 80mm pipe (if that makes sence:angel:)
Feel free to ask more questions:)

CHEERS TIM.

[McBrain]

I understand. Thanks Tim.

[long stroke]

Got it sprayed yesterday, primed then overcoated with some cheap black paint which doesn't seem to be sticking so i think i'll buy some good stuff tomorrow.
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/920/pvcsnorkel014qh4.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel014qh4.jpg)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/4549/pvcsnorkel015yt2.th.jpg (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel015yt2.jpg)
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7777/pvcsnorkel016hk2.th.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pvcsnorkel016hk2.jpg)

CHEERS TIM.

[long stroke]

Sorry double post please delete..

[long stroke]

Just trying to get the pictures better:angel:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/1238.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/1263.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/1264.jpg

Thats better:)

CHEERS TIM.

[vnx205]

It looks a lot better now that it's black than when it was a pale grey PVC colour.

[Fusion]

Looks a sheet load better now it's painted . Be good to see it on the truck ;).

[long stroke]

Looks a sheet load better now it's painted . Be good to see it on the truck ;).

Soon;)

[rangieman]

Looks a sheet load better now it's painted . Be good to see it on the truck ;).
Dont even think about it mick:eek:

[Fusion]

Dont even think about it mick:eek:

Don't stress mate :p . I pick up the rubber elbows and snorkel ram today ;). Then all i need to do is get the 3" stainless :D.

[HAK]

The disco:D
It's 1992 and i'm 1993:angel:

TIM.

good work son you know whats good ;):D

[long stroke]

good work son you know whats good ;):D

Uuuummm yeah maaaybe:D

[long stroke]

Does anyone know what would be the best black paint to spray it with??, tried some cheap stuff but it is chipping off:(

CHEERS TIM.

[CaverD3]

Preparationis the key :lol: You will need to sand it back. :( (sorry) You can get some pink primer from plumbers shops it will prime the surface ready for painting, this is a liquid you rub on with a rag, not spray. Use a body primer then Galmet colorbond paint or bumper black which is slightly flexible.

[cucinadio]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/1238.jpg



l don't know all you lucky boys all have a shed to play in :p....l love my stamped driveway and my squires but bloody hell l wish l had a shed to play in :D

[long stroke]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/1238.jpg



l don't know all you lucky boys all have a shed to play in :p....l love my stamped driveway and my squires but bloody hell l wish l had a shed to play in :D

Yes yes heaps of goodies in there:D to bad you can't take a step without tripping over a bullbar or a welder or something:angel:

TIM.

[long stroke]

Preparationis the key :lol: You will need to sand it back. :( (sorry) You can get some pink primer from plumbers shops it will prime the surface ready for painting, this is a liquid you rub on with a rag, not spray. Use a body primer then Galmet colorbond paint or bumper black which is slightly flexible.

Is this the bumper black stuff??
Bumper and Window Trim Paint (http://www.automotivetouchup.com/spray_paint_trim.aspx)

CHEERS TIM.

[The Mutt]

Is this the bumper black stuff??
Bumper and Window Trim Paint (http://www.automotivetouchup.com/spray_paint_trim.aspx)

CHEERS TIM.

I use K&H paints, their satin black looks factory finish.

PVC has to be properly primed before painting, before using the pink keying paint give all surfaces to be painted a rub with 320-400 grit sandpaper so that there are no glossy surfaces left, paint won't stick to glossy bits of plastic.

Good Luck

I'm looking at getting 3in SS and a Donaldson TopSpin Pre-Cleaner for our Rangie

Glenn

[CaverD3]

Is this the bumper black stuff??
Bumper and Window Trim Paint (http://www.automotivetouchup.com/spray_paint_trim.aspx)

CHEERS TIM.

Looks like the same sort of stuff. I got mine from Supercr@p.

[dirtdawg]

buy some esp from a paint shop its a liqued that you rub on thing to make paint stick, it works very well

[long stroke]

This crap paint i painted it with just scrapes off as soon as you touch it:mad:
I might have to rub it back and try some:)

CHEERS TIM.

[dirtdawg]

if you use some esp (easy surface prep) and then some etch primer you should'nt have a problem just make sure you get all the loose/flaky paint off first

[The Mutt]

This crap paint i painted it with just scrapes off as soon as you touch it:mad:
I might have to rub it back and try some:)

CHEERS TIM.

Not all paints and cleaning solvents are for all surfaces.

You have to etch the surface before painting, if you were painting a metal body panel the first thing you do is sand the area to be painted with wet and dry so that all the gloss surface is gone and clean with the correct cleaning solvent, for example, acetone for cleaning fibreglass, wax and grease or mid range thinners for painting with acrylic, using the wrong cleaning solvent can leave a film on the surface that stops the paint sticking.

I haven't painted PVC for years, last time I did it was for a pole tube on a camper, I sanded the gloss off, cleaned the entire surface with the correct cleaning agent, etch primed with the pink stuff bought from the plumbing supply store then painted with a semi flex paint, some of the paint chipped off from stones thrown up from the vehicle other than that it was pretty solid.

Ask at a Trade paint suppliers and plumbing Suppliers what you need to do, if you ring up you don't feel obliged to buy from them.


Glenn

[long stroke]

Thanks all for the help with paint etc i'll get around to painting it well some day:angel:
Any way this is the finished product (finally)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/841.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/842.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/843.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/844.jpg

CHEERS TIM.

[The Mutt]

Looking good.

Glenn

[Fusion]

Great job mate ;) . Looks like the bonnet and roof needs a couple coats of paint as well :eek:.

[weeds]

top job tim, might have to inspect your handy work xmas weekend

[long stroke]

Great job mate ;) . Looks like the bonnet and roof needs a couple coats of paint as well :eek:.

Thanks Mick;)
Yeah thats next on the list, Dullbirds faded bonnet thread couldn't have come up at a better time:D

TIM.

[long stroke]

top job tim, might have to inspect your handy work xmas weekend

Handy work:eek::D yeah feel free it will be hear:)

CHEERS TIM.

[B92 8NW]

Thanks Mick;)
Yeah thats next on the list, Dullbirds faded bonnet thread couldn't have come up at a better time:D

TIM.

My old 200Disco had ****ed paint. I was *this* close to painting in in matt khaki, I reckon it'd look pretty good:D.

[long stroke]

My old 200Disco had ****ed paint. I was *this* close to painting in in matt khaki, I reckon it'd look pretty good:D.

Yeah the paint on mine is completly buggered:(
I'm not shore what colour i'm gonna paint it yet, Maybe matt khaki:D

CHEERS TIM.

[long stroke]

Some pics of where the snorkel hooks to the air box....
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/773.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/12/774.jpg

CHEERS TIM.

[rovercare]

That's a funny place to hook the snorkel up:confused:




:p

EDIT: Bugger, you edited your pics to quick:D

[long stroke]

That's a funny place to hook the snorkel up:confused:




:p

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Sorry wrong pics:eek:

[timbocruiser]

nice work mate! just about to make one for my rangie classic! some good tips there!