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The ho har's
4th October 2008, 02:16 PM
Up the road from our place is a vacant block on a major road that has been adopted as a car sales yard (anyone who knows where I live will know which block I am referring to). Well The ho har's was driving past today and there would have 15 to 20 vehicles there and 1 boat...... AND a police car (no it wasn't for sale) and a police officer with a digital camera taking photo's of some of the cars. Some cars did not have the compulsory roadworthy cert that has to be displayed when selling a vehicle. 1 car that has been there all week had his number plate taken I guess not registered.
Mrs ho har:D
Scouse
4th October 2008, 02:48 PM
I'm sure Drivesafe feels better now :(.
While I can see that they are doing their 'job' by booking illegal cars for sale, surely they have more important things to do.
Around here, it's usually council rangers who do this.
Just my thoughts as I feel as frustrated as Tim sometimes :nazilock:.
The ho har's
4th October 2008, 03:03 PM
I'm sure Drivesafe feels better now :(.
While I can see that they are doing their 'job' by booking illegal cars for sale, surely they have more important things to do.
Around here, it's usually council rangers who do this.
Just my thoughts as I feel as frustrated as Tim sometimes :nazilock:.
We do not have council rangers we have police officers and while he was there I saw at least 2 police cars drive past.
Mrs ho har:)
101RRS
4th October 2008, 04:19 PM
If the vacant block is private land the cops have no authority but if it is not then all bets are off - probably also being booked for illegally being parked - must be parked on a road, on private property or in a authorised car park - 20 years ago I was booked for illegal parking when I parked on the nature strip outside my house on a suburban street.
Garry
scarry
4th October 2008, 04:54 PM
Generally i think they do a good job,and try their best.
They still cant sort out those bikes,one went past me doing at least 150k,on the Logan motorway today.
The other week about 4 went past me doing the same sort of speed on the road to Cunungara.
I think they are probably to fast for the police vehicles.Dont know if their bikes can catch them
Captain_Rightfoot
4th October 2008, 05:02 PM
If the vacant block is private land the cops have no authority but if it is not then all bets are off - probably also being booked for illegally being parked - must be parked on a road, on private property or in a authorised car park - 20 years ago I was booked for illegal parking when I parked on the nature strip outside my house on a suburban street.
Garry
In QLD you have to have a clearly displayed safety certificate just to offer your vehicle for sale. Why? I have no idea but that's the LAW. So, whether on a private block or not it doesn't matter.
The problem is that sometimes private sales can take months so you might have to get 2 or 3 of the things. Silly law.
Bigbjorn
4th October 2008, 05:41 PM
Maybe an unlicenced dealer. That does attract attention. Also to obtain a dealers licence, you have to have premises approved by the relevant local government for display and sale of vehicles. Registered vehicles in Qld offered for sale must have a copy of the Safety Certificate attached to the vehicle.
The ho har's
4th October 2008, 06:31 PM
Maybe an unlicenced dealer. That does attract attention. Also to obtain a dealers licence, you have to have premises approved by the relevant local government for display and sale of vehicles. Registered vehicles in Qld offered for sale must have a copy of the Safety Certificate attached to the vehicle.
I know where you are comming from but this a vacant block of land:eek:
Mrs ho har:D
Bigbjorn
4th October 2008, 06:42 PM
I know where you are comming from but this a vacant block of land:eek:
Mrs ho har:D
Obviously why the walloper was there.
LandyAndy
4th October 2008, 07:03 PM
The Boddington(50 or so ks away) Police were doing their job thursday nite only to end up with 2 20odd year olds dead.They detected an oncoming vehicle doing 83ks in a 60 zone,put the flashing lights on.By time they stopped and did a u turn they found the car wrapped around a tree just up the road.Both were dead.
Not a nice way to finish your shift.
Andrew
101RRS
4th October 2008, 07:19 PM
In QLD you have to have a clearly displayed safety certificate just to offer your vehicle for sale. Why? I have no idea but that's the LAW. So, whether on a private block or not it doesn't matter.
The problem is that sometimes private sales can take months so you might have to get 2 or 3 of the things. Silly law.
So I take it that you cannot sell a vehicle at all unless it roadworthy - what then about project vehicles? So I could not sell my old series 1 in Qld unless I restore it first and then get a safety cert.
Seems odd - why do I constantly see vehicles for sale on ebay in the wrecks section - from Qld that do not have safety certificates.
Sorry does not make sense.
Garry
Ben
4th October 2008, 07:35 PM
So I take it that you cannot sell a vehicle at all unless it roadworthy
In Queensland, you can't offer a registered vehicle for sale without a safety certificate.
The eBay items will most likely state something like registration will be canceled or canceled unless buyer arranges safety cert.
Bigbjorn
4th October 2008, 08:57 PM
So I take it that you cannot sell a vehicle at all unless it roadworthy - what then about project vehicles? So I could not sell my old series 1 in Qld unless I restore it first and then get a safety cert.
Seems odd - why do I constantly see vehicles for sale on ebay in the wrecks section - from Qld that do not have safety certificates.
Sorry does not make sense.
Garry
In Qld you can not offer to sell a registered vehicle as a registered vehicle without a Safety Certificate. A Safety Certificate is necessary to transfer registration or to register an unregistered vehicle. It is an offence to offer a registered vehicle for sale registered without a copy of the Safety Certificate being attached. You may offer a vehicle for sale unregistered without a Safety Certificate. In Brisbane, on Brisbane City Council controlled roads, you may not park an unregistered vehicle, or offer a vehicle for sale. A complaint to Council will likely result in a fine for parking unregistered vehicle, and/or offering a vehicle for sale on a road. If the vehicle offered for sale is registered and without Safety Certificate, then Council inspectors WILL notify Qld. Transport and maybe get you the double whammy of also offering vehicle for sale without Safety Certificate. Brisbane City Council will tow away unregistered vehicles parked on a road when a compalint is made. These vehicles are then advertised and unless claimed and fees/fines paid are sold at public auction.
CraigE
5th October 2008, 12:03 PM
The Boddington(50 or so ks away) Police were doing their job thursday nite only to end up with 2 20odd year olds dead.They detected an oncoming vehicle doing 83ks in a 60 zone,put the flashing lights on.By time they stopped and did a u turn they found the car wrapped around a tree just up the road.Both were dead.
Not a nice way to finish your shift.
Andrew
Apparently they tried to avoid the speed check and evade police, before the police even started pursuit.
Not nice for anyone.:(
TimNZ
5th October 2008, 01:24 PM
The sister of a good friend of mine brought a car from a dealer back in NZ. A few weeks later she had some major mechanical problems with the car, (no, not a LR!!), and went back to the dealer to have it fixed/money refunded. However the dealer said no chance, it was sold on the grass verge out on the front of the lot, not on the lot itself so she isn't covered by the LMVD, (Licensed Motor Vehicle Dealer), laws.
My friend and a few of his larger mates went to see the dealer and asked him politely to "respect his sister and refund the money", which he did so promptly.
Tim
drivesafe
5th October 2008, 04:34 PM
My friend and a few of his larger mates went to see the dealer and asked him politely to "respect his sister and refund the money", which he did so promptly.
Tim
That’s what I call the real law in action, good result ;)
BigJon
5th October 2008, 04:42 PM
. However the dealer said no chance, it was sold on the grass verge out on the front of the lot, not on the lot itself so she isn't covered by the LMVD, (Licensed Motor Vehicle Dealer), laws.
In the NT (and possibly the rest of Australia) the vehicle would still be covered by the statuatory warranty.
303gunner
5th October 2008, 10:31 PM
If the vacant block is private land the cops have no authority but if it is not then all bets are off -
Garry
Unless the Cops are acting on a complaint of Trespass from the property owner.
There is a large commercial block in town here that was always being used as free parking and for parking your car with a For Sale sign (despite clear large signs to the contrary) and the owners always made complaints to the police. If you were a regular, the owners then began the practice of having the vehicle towed to the Tip and reporting the car to the Police as "abandoned" and disposed of. Gates to the Tip were locked at 4.45pm.:angrylock:
Ha-ha. Got a good write-up in the local paper. That soon put a stop to it.
Olive Drab
5th October 2008, 10:42 PM
The vacant strip of land that runs along the army base is a popular spot to sell vehicles.You can tell when the cops have been checking this spot, no vehicles for about 2 weeks then business as usual, sometimes up to a dozen.
Bigbjorn
6th October 2008, 08:37 AM
Unless the Cops are acting on a complaint of Trespass from the property owner.
There is a large commercial block in town here that was always being used as free parking and for parking your car with a For Sale sign (despite clear large signs to the contrary) and the owners always made complaints to the police. If you were a regular, the owners then began the practice of having the vehicle towed to the Tip and reporting the car to the Police as "abandoned" and disposed of. Gates to the Tip were locked at 4.45pm.:angrylock:
Ha-ha. Got a good write-up in the local paper. That soon put a stop to it.
A friend used to own a car hire business with a storage yard in an inner Sydney suburb that was becoming gentrified. He accessed this yard regularly on a daily basis. A few twee yuppy restaurants opeed nearby during the gentrification process. The patrons were wont to park across his driveway and gatesin spite of prominent signage. Solution? Get the big trolley jack out and lift and shift the parked cars out into the middle of the road and leave them there. Complaints? Few did after confronting a large angry man holding a 24" shifter.
Barefoot Dave
25th October 2008, 11:06 PM
In Qld you can not offer to sell a registered vehicle as a registered vehicle without a Safety Certificate. .
Hence the increase in "interested? 0404......." type signs. Plausable deniability. "No, officer, the sign is for Girls who like me!" Though, this is actually the case for many areas in Sydney ; )
RobHay
25th October 2008, 11:21 PM
So I take it that you cannot sell a vehicle at all unless it roadworthy - what then about project vehicles? So I could not sell my old series 1 in Qld unless I restore it first and then get a safety cert.
Seems odd - why do I constantly see vehicles for sale on ebay in the wrecks section - from Qld that do not have safety certificates.
Sorry does not make sense.
Garry
NO.......If the vehicle is registered it must have a safety cert. Otherwise it is a "As is , where is" sale. Unregistered vehicles can be sold but it is a case of buyer beware!
PhilipA
26th October 2008, 09:08 AM
It's really a bit crazy.
If you transfer a NSW registered car to Queensland you have to get a Safety Certificate which costs $50.
In NSW , safety certificates ( at $30) are required for registration every year after 4 years old whereas in Qld never.
I think one could convincingly argue that the whole thing is a waste of time and money.
Hey but the nice young lady at Mt Gravatt registry bought my argument that a Vitara convertible was NOT a utility, and gave me car rego, where in NSW it was a ute with higher rego.
Go figgure
Regards Philip A.
p38arover
26th October 2008, 11:32 AM
I want to sell my son's bus which is registered in Qld but currently down here. I need a safety certificate. I want to keep the bus regoed in Qld until sold as I can do it 6-monthly and without annual inspections - and it's cheaper than here in NSW.
I assume I can't use a NSW inspection.
I may have to do it like all the eBayers - sold without rego but that makes it harder to sell.
The ho har's
26th October 2008, 04:50 PM
in QLD we don't need yearly inspections here and you can register it half yearly BUT you need a QLD safety certificate to sell a vehicle if registered.
Mrs ho har:D
Bushwanderer
27th October 2008, 10:12 AM
In NSW, the RTA will accept a safety inspection certificate from another state if you are interstate when the rego becomes due.
They do, however, prefer a NSW certificate which can be issued 2 (or 3?) months before rego is due.
Best Wishes,
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