'95 D1 aftermarket door speaker replacement

[MSkinner]

I'm in a bit of a pickle here. I always planned on upgrading the factory stereo in my Disco. Not to anything real flash, just something that sounds nice and crisp with some punchy bass. When I pulled the factory front door speaker out, I was unpleasantly suprised at the lack of depth I had to work with when selecting replacements.

If anyone who has upgraded their factory speakers has any photos, could you please post them here? From what I could tell, only shallow 4in replacement speakers will fit. I contemplated fitting a 6in speaker with an adapter but by looking at how close the door handle is to the speaker mount, it doesn't look like it's going to work.

So far the only set I've found that fit nicely without the magnet touching the metal inside the door are a set of 4in Pioneer 2-ways. I've had Pioneer speakers before and I wasn't all that impressed.

Any help appreciated.

[Boxhead63]

I had the same problem a couple of years back when i first got my 95 D1. Great position aren't they? Anyway i found a Sony Xplod item fit perfectly. The part number is XS-GF1021X. They certainly put out a better sound than the landy original, however they are only a two way speaker. Hope this helps.

[waynep]

Try a bit of a search - there's been a few threads discussing aftermarket speakers for the D1.
I recall 5" speakers with smaller magnets were the ones that fitted best.

I did a quick search on "speakers" and found these on the first two or three pages, there will be more further back in time.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/projects-tutorials/50287-4-inch-speaker-box.html

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery/51354-speaker-sizes-landy-discovery.html

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery/55775-speaker-replacements.html

[DiscoDan]

I fitted JVC splits to the front of mine, I had to put in a spacer 19mm ply but they sound sooo much better than the stock ones, I then put 6inch Alpines in the back to get the bass.

The standard spacer is against the door panel then the ply and speaker is last. The tweaters fitted under the factory covers and they came with a cross over box.

I have not ever managed to get photos onto this site so if you want some pm me and I will send to your private email.

Danny

[MSkinner]

Thanks for that post Waynep. I did have a quick search through the forums but didn't find what you came up with.

By the sounds of it (no pun intended), getting a decent sounding system into a D1 isn't going to be any small feat. The lack of locations to mount speakers and amps plus the volume of the interior is really going to make this a challenge. Not to mention the fact that this is my first Discovery and I don't yet have the slightest clue about where to route wiring, how to remove interior panels, etc. There isn't a chance that I'm going to pay someone to do it for me after seeing the butchering a local well-known chain store issued to my brother's Commodore. Imagine giving them a Land Rover to work on!

I think I'm up for a lot of reading and planning.

[LRHybrid100]

I always used the Alpine 2 ways in the front - good sound for their money.

have a look at this previous post http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/32198-replacement-speakers.html

HTH

LRH

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

Thanks for that post Waynep. I did have a quick search through the forums but didn't find what you came up with.

By the sounds of it (no pun intended), getting a decent sounding system into a D1 isn't going to be any small feat. The lack of locations to mount speakers and amps plus the volume of the interior is really going to make this a challenge. Not to mention the fact that this is my first Discovery and I don't yet have the slightest clue about where to route wiring, how to remove interior panels, etc. There isn't a chance that I'm going to pay someone to do it for me after seeing the butchering a local well-known chain store issued to my brother's Commodore. Imagine giving them a Land Rover to work on!

I think I'm up for a lot of reading and planning.

I had no real problems fitting mine in the RRC. Cant picture door trims for Discos in my head, but Classics have a large area at the lower front of the door that will take an RD series Alpine 6x9 plus you have the normal 4" unit at the top.
Pioneer, Sony X-Plod, Kenwood etc are NOT quality speakers. I run Alpine and JL Audio in mine. I highly reccomend the JL Audio for a mid to upper price range.
If you still have the std deck, just go with Alpine SD range of speakers.

Xmas list contains 1 more V12 digital monoblock amp, Focal speakers and Focal subbie, but just not sure which Xmas in the next 10 years they may eventuate in!!!
Alpine speakers (http://www.alpine.com.au/products/index.asp'section=5)
JL Audio (http://www.jlaudio.com/)
Focal speakers (http://www.focalaustralia.com.au/)

[nzoliver]

Hi all,
I am curious to know if the rear doors on a D1 are the same or similar to a DII...as the DIIs have speakers in the bottom of the rears doors to give some real sound. Anyone put components (or even just woofers) in their rear doors at all on a D1?

[MSkinner]

Hi all,
I am curious to know if the rear doors on a D1 are the same or similar to a DII...as the DIIs have speakers in the bottom of the rears doors to give some real sound. Anyone put components (or even just woofers) in their rear doors at all on a D1?

My D1 only has speakers in the front doors and rear cargo area. Both 4in units. I'll be modifying the rear speaker mounts to take 6in speakers.

[streaky]

I can also vouch for the JL Audio speakers. I replaced the SONY front speakers with a set and was just amazed at the difference. They are only a 30 watt 2way speaker but can handle more power than most people throw at them.

In my current configuration I have JL's in the front doors. Infinity's in the rear pillars, a 10" sub tube in the rear side panel where the dicky seats used to be.
The other side houses the three Denon Pro Amps.
1 x 125watt mono amp.
Two amps of 2 x 160 watt per channel for back and front.

None of this encroaches into the rear load area either.

You gotta love Ipods! I use the i-Touch with a 500GB hard drive for iTunes.

[MSkinner]

I can also vouch for the JL Audio speakers. I replaced the SONY front speakers with a set and was just amazed at the difference. They are only a 30 watt 2way speaker but can handle more power than most people throw at them.

In my current configuration I have JL's in the front doors. Infinity's in the rear pillars, a 10" sub tube in the rear side panel where the dicky seats used to be.
The other side houses the three Denon Pro Amps.
1 x 125watt mono amp.
Two amps of 2 x 160 watt per channel for back and front.

None of this encroaches into the rear load area either.

You gotta love Ipods! I use the i-Touch with a 500GB hard drive for iTunes.

I'd love to see some photos of this setup!

[streaky]

Sorry I forgot I contributed to this thread...here's what I have at the moment...only difference being I have since added a third Denon amp to drive the 10" sub located in the rear side pocket.
This installation doesn't take away any of my cargo space either.

As with all stereo buffs I am now changing this set-up...which is leaving me some major head aches.
I have purchased three Rockford Fosgate Punch amps and a rather large double 10" sub-cabinet to hide in the rear cargo area. The cabinet will go into a falso floor that I'm putting behind the front seats, the amps will replace teh 3 Denon ones and the speakers will under go some serious modifications in the doors by way of custom made fibre glass door cards and speaker pods.

The speakers are all from Rockford's power series and in all it creates a quite amazing sound.

[Hastykiwi]

Hi guys.

I used to run a car audio outfit that did all the work for BMW & Rover in CHristchurch round 1999-2000, so thought I'd offer 2cents here.

If your going to simply replace your factory speakers and maintain a factory headunit, then top of the line speakers are not going to help much. Most high speakers are designed to handle much high power as opposed to factory units. This is done by increasing the voice coil size, and magnet size. The flip side of this is if you are only using a factory head unit there is often not enough power to drive these, essentially not enough power to over come the resistance of the magnet. The end result is while the head is trying like mad , the cone does not move enough to generate the intended frequencies, (particularly bass). The natural reaction is to turn the volume up, but this just prematurely overworks the head unit.

Often the factory speakers will produce a better sound in these situations because they are a more efficient speaker for the factory headunit and produce the sound more easily.

If your going to up grade the lot then generally more power = better quality sound, particularly at lower volumes. This is when a lack of power will cause the bass will drop out , ie not driving the speaker sufficiently.

General rule match the speaker with the power available, wether it comes from headunit or external amp.

For diso's, natural size for D1 front door is 4", spacers will allow 5-6".
Pioneer, Sony etc DO make good speakers for specific applications. Just remember whats driving them.

Have a listen in the shops or other peoples cars for the sound u want. 6" speakers can lack a little of the mid range sounds, (ie vocals), 5's are better at this, but not so much bass. 4's obviously are at the other end of the scale. The most difficult choice is when u want one speaker to do all these jobs. Best option are components as each speaker has the opportunity to do one job well. The tweeters tend to produce better treble and let the main drivers do their thing, rather than having to try to produce the entire freq range.
The tweeters will also lift the sound out of the foot wells, and give better direction (stereo effect) to the sound. Note If you have no back seat passengers, then tweeter components in the rear may not add much as they are a directional speaker.

IMO the most well balanced setup is a component set of 5" and tweeter. Good treble and midrange. An 8"- 10" sub for bass. 12's have their place, but The bigger the sub, generally the better quality it has to be to produce the wider freq range your going to ask of it as opposed to the 8 or 10" units.

Nick.