Differences between D1's

[Siska]

Just wondering if there is any difference to the geometery of the underside of the early D1's and the later D1's?

Spefically the placement of the front Diff and Radius Arms.

TIA

Dannie

[long stroke]

Nope i don't think there are any differences apart from the interia, motor (only change in the deisels i think the v8s are the same) and gearbox;)

CHEERS TIM.

[mickashay]

Nope i don't think there are any differences apart from the interia, motor (only change in the deisels i think the v8s are the same) and gearbox;)

CHEERS TIM.

3.5 went to 3.9 in the v8

[The ho har's]

Nope i don't think there are any differences apart from the interia, motor (only change in the deisels i think the v8s are the same) and gearbox;)

CHEERS TIM.
OOHH long stroke

you haven't used spell check have you

Ron is going to have you for this one:(


Mrs ho har:angel:

[V8Landy]

No they are all the same underneath although the internals to the diffs changed in about 93-94.Gear box's change aswell

[mickashay]

10 spline axles went to 24 spline around 93

[long stroke]

3.5 went to 3.9 in the v8

:oops2:

[long stroke]

OOHH long stroke

you haven't used spell check have you

Ron is going to have you for this one:(


Mrs ho har:angel:

Sorry Ron:o
Never used spell check, i need to:eek:
I need a link or something please:angel:

CHEERS TIM.

[andrew e]

I believe radius arm bushes are different on earlier and later, aswell as the front steering arm/steering box arm. Some early D1s didnt have sway bars, Also some D1s had a rear uni joint and some had a rubber ring on the rear diff. I think..... (i have never wrecked one) that the 200tdis may have a different length front and rear shaft, but not 100% sure.

Wheelbase is the same.

There are 3 different types of front axles (2 10 spline, 1 24 spline) , 2 different rears (24 and 10), and they all have the same wheelbase and chassis design apart from engine mounts.

There are 3 different brake systems.........do you want me to go on or is that enough.

Andy

[Siska]

I believe radius arm bushes are different on earlier and later, aswell as the front steering arm/steering box arm. Some early D1s didnt have sway bars, Also some D1s had a rear uni joint and some had a rubber ring on the rear diff. I think..... (i have never wrecked one) that the 200tdis may have a different length front and rear shaft, but not 100% sure.

Wheelbase is the same.

There are 3 different types of front axles (2 10 spline, 1 24 spline) , 2 different rears (24 and 10), and they all have the same wheelbase and chassis design apart from engine mounts.

There are 3 different brake systems.........do you want me to go on or is that enough.

Andy

Thanks for that, that was the answer I was looking for.

[justinc]

Siska,

Between vehicles there is sometimes quite a bit of differences. Specifically wheelbase left to right. I have had 1 D1 12mm shorter on the left side wheel base than the right, some hovering around 5 or so mm, and yet others have been spot on:eek:


This also goes for Castor angles, though difficult to measure accurately without a wheel alignment machine, I would hazard a guess and say they too can vary between vehicles.

The chassis were once all hand jigged/ set up for welding, not sure if this was the case in late D1's, but the worst offender (12mm)WAS a 1998 'WA' chassis number model.

JC

[WildOne]

Siska,

Between vehicles there is sometimes quite a bit of differences. Specifically wheelbase left to right. I have had 1 D1 12mm shorter on the left side wheel base than the right, some hovering around 5 or so mm, and yet others have been spot on:eek:


This also goes for Castor angles, though difficult to measure accurately without a wheel alignment machine, I would hazard a guess and say they too can vary between vehicles.

The chassis were once all hand jigged/ set up for welding, not sure if this was the case in late D1's, but the worst offender (12mm)WAS a 1998 'WA' chassis number model.

JC

12mm:eek:
Thats pretty bad, for some reason i thought that "hand built" meant built with pride in one's workmanship.
Could that be caused by heat distortion due to welding the chassis up too quick rather than just not measuring carefully enough? Even so, it should still have been de-stressed and straightened out....

[ozscott]

It all depended on whether Chelsea or Man' United won on the weekend...and whether the pie van had just turned up before the arc welding torch was struck.

[justinc]

12mm:eek:
Thats pretty bad, for some reason i thought that "hand built" meant built with pride in one's workmanship.Could that be caused by heat distortion due to welding the chassis up too quick rather than just not measuring carefully enough? Even so, it should still have been de-stressed and straightened out....

:D:D:D:D:D:D You're kidding right???

I've seen some amazing dodgy welds on Landies, even found a section where they had completely missed for about 2 " on a 110's chassis once:eek:
so I guess Ozscotts reply was right on the money! As time went on, things got worse. Supposedly some of the early 80's were the worst in the brit motoring industry, but I've seen worse workmanship in Disco's and Defenders than 2 door and early 4dr RRC's. :confused:

(I still love them (Landies) though:):):):))

JC