Starter Motors

[bcr2734]

has anyone change a starter motor in a diesel yet. i saw that it has a solinoid on the top. but does the starter have 3 bolts or two to take it all off. i have undone two.

[isuzurover]

has anyone change a starter motor in a diesel yet. i saw that it has a solinoid on the top. but does the starter have 3 bolts or two to take it all off. i have undone two.

Diesel starters are 3-bolt. (well mine is!)

[Xtreme]

If you're talking Td5 Starter motor, yes there are three bolts securing it.
The two that you can see are 13mm and the third one is 15mm and you'll need a 15mm x 3/8" drove socket with a 150mm extension. You may also need to use a 'cheeter' bar as they are usually pretty tight.

Roger

Oops ...... didn't notice we were in the Series 3 area.

[bcr2734]

Diesel starters are 3-bolt. (well mine is!)

i thought so. will do it tommorrow. thankz.

[Blknight.aus]

looking at it from the front of the vehicle....

use your 12 inch extention bar on a ratchet to get to all 3 and you can swing it from behind the exhaust.

Undo all 3 2 turns and you should be able to undo them the rest of the way with just the extention bar.

Remove the bottom and outside bolts totally, reach down with your right hand to support the weight of the starter then undo the top on.


now its time for landrover tetris.... Im not going to tell you the secret moves needed..... :)

[bcr2734]

looking at it from the front of the vehicle....

use your 12 inch extention bar on a ratchet to get to all 3 and you can swing it from behind the exhaust.

Undo all 3 2 turns and you should be able to undo them the rest of the way with just the extention bar.

Remove the bottom and outside bolts totally, reach down with your right hand to support the weight of the starter then undo the top on.


now its time for landrover tetris.... Im not going to tell you the secret moves needed..... :)

tell me about it. i had to undo the exhaust to do top 2 nuts. will look at bottom one tommorrow. gggrrrrrr

[Blknight.aus]

providing your carefull and strong enough the startermotor comes out Upwards.

From memory

pull it forwards rotate it till the solenoid is over the chassis
tilt the gear end upwards and as you push it backwards lift it AND rotate it so the solenoid winds up about over the clutch slave.

lower it down a little and tilt it out towards the bodywork then tilt it till you can turn the whole thing end for end past so the starter gear comes forwards of center

now it should just be a lift, turn and jiggle...

Its the same manouver more or less to change the izusu 3.9 starter motor.

[isuzurover]

looking at it from the front of the vehicle....

use your 12 inch extention bar on a ratchet to get to all 3 and you can swing it from behind the exhaust.

Undo all 3 2 turns and you should be able to undo them the rest of the way with just the extention bar.

Remove the bottom and outside bolts totally, reach down with your right hand to support the weight of the starter then undo the top on.


now its time for landrover tetris.... Im not going to tell you the secret moves needed..... :)

Un less you have extractors like I do... No way the starter can come off without removing them :mad:

[Blknight.aus]

providing you have the first section of the exhaust following the standard original exhaust path.



Care to put a carton on that little fact?

[isuzurover]

providing you have the first section of the exhaust following the standard original exhaust path.



Care to put a carton on that little fact?

If you are addressing me... They are 4-2-1 extractors, which only converge to 1 pipe below the starter.

But you are welcome to fly over here and prove me wrong. I will certainly buy you a carton if you can pull the starter without pulling the extractors. ;) :D

[Blknight.aus]

I miss read the post... I read it as "you cant do it unless you have the extractors"

thats why I put the bit about the first bit of the exhaust following the standard path.

although I have seen a set of custom made extractors on a petrol 2.25 that tilted forwards on all of the ports and then curved back under the starter so you could still get easy access to the clutch slave and the starter.

whered you get your diesel extractors made up?

[isuzurover]

whered you get your diesel extractors made up?

They were a stock Lukey part. Cost $140. Not sure if they still make them.

[bcr2734]

i cannot get that top bolt out. my 5/8 socket won't get in there and my ring spanners are hard to move. this is becoming a i bad idea for a simple job. i havn't touched it in a week. i will attack it tommorrow


brian

[Blknight.aus]

I use a 3/8th drive socket set but a set of narrow 1/2 inch should work...

[bcr2734]

I use a 3/8th drive socket set but a set of narrow 1/2 inch should work...

i only have 1/2 inch as my lowest drive:p.

cheers

[Blknight.aus]

having just done the job I remembered a pertinent fact about the sockets.....

you need a 5/8th inch 3/8th drive socket thats ground down in height to get clearance on the casting for the cooling system welch plug.

Fortunately I had mine in my gash tools box so this presented no problem....

for the sake of "how would you do it without butchered tools I put the new starter back in without it and you need a 5/8th open ender to start with and its a case of tighten 1/12th of a turn, remove the spanner and turn it put it back on and tighten a further 1/12th of a turn and repeat and repeat and repeat and you get the idea. when it seats grab the 5/8th ringy and nip it up.

my sidcrhome ring open ender as too fat on the ringy end to get the clearance on the same casting protrusion to work without cross threading the bolt.

[bcr2734]

i Just got back home from work. Been 4 weeks since being at home. I tried to purchase a starter at 4WD mel tho had none in stock. I have traced one done with a local sparky. will be fitting in the next 2 weeks. tho if anyone is interested $550inc from england if ya keen.

cheers