BP Ultimate Diesel

[disco_ute]

From what I gather it's going to be trialed in 46 sites in greater Brisbane starting Mon 6th October 2008

any one tried it yet?

Mick

[Fusion]

Bloody Hell :eek: Another fuel to empty our pockets ..... The standard diesel costs enough as it is :(

[Handbrake hates Camping]

A little something I found whilst browsing on this topic...


Facts about BP Ultimate diesel
23/01/2008 11:27
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To get the best out of your vehicle, whatever the make or model, BP Ultimate Diesel has been designed to powerfully clean your engine to give you more performance and less pollution.

BP Ultimate Diesel is a cleaner fuel. It burns more evenly and completely and has up to four times the cleaning power of ordinary fuels. BP Ultimate Diesel cleans your engine as you drive so it runs more smoothly and efficiently.

The exceptional cleaning power of BP Ultimate Diesel removes the deposits that other fuels can leave behind on critical engine components, such as fuel injectors, which have a significant impact on vehicle performance and emissions.

BP Ultimate Diesel has been specially formulated to have powerful cleaning properties so that it removes existing deposits and keeps engines clean. Using BP Ultimate Diesel can increase fuel flow by an amazing 380% during the critical early stages of injection.

Our tests show that with regular use of BP Ultimate Diesel, deposits on a typical fuel injector nozzle are powerfully removed.

The removal of these injector deposits ensures a better quality fuel spray, allowing the fuel to burn more efficiently and completely. These tests show the difference in spray quality between an injector having run on ordinary diesel compared to one after regular use of BP Ultimate Diesel. Deposit build up around the injector nozzle can restrict fuel flow leading to poor spray quality and adversely affecting the precision of control as fuel is injected into the engine. This in turn can lead to poor combustion. An optimum spray pattern is maintained when using BP Ultimate Diesel, which is critical to the quality of the subsequent combustion process.

BP Ultimate Diesel has the highest average cetane number in South Africa, significantly above the standard cetane number for diesel fuels in this market. Cetane number is the key measure of diesel fuel combustion quality and similar to octane numbers for petrol, the higher the cetane rating of diesel, the better its combustion quality.

With its higher cetane number BP Ultimate Diesel burns more smoothly and completely than ordinary diesel, which means you can expect it to deliver more power and improve the acceleration of your vehicle.

Additionally, BP Ultimate Diesel powerfully cleans your fuel injectors which improves fuel delivery and produces a better quality fuel spray which means that the fuel actually burns better, delivering more performance from your engine.

In fact, our tests show that for diesel vehicles the increase in power output achieved through the use of BP Ultimate can be more than 8% compared to ordinary diesel. And some customers may achieve larger improvements.

BP Ultimate Diesel delivers acceleration benefits

The sharper acceleration delivered by BP Ultimate Diesel can feel like you're driving with a bigger engine.

With up to four times the cleaning power of ordinary diesel, BP Ultimate Diesel powerfully cleans your fuel injectors as you drive, improving fuel spray quality which is critical to the subsequent combustion process. Additionally, with its higher cetane number, BP Ultimate Diesel burns more smoothly and completely than ordinary diesel. This means that you can expect BP Ultimate Diesel to deliver more power and sharper acceleration from your vehicle.

Tests run under tightly controlled conditions show that BP Ultimate Diesel delivers an improvement in acceleration time of up to approximately 8%, compared to ordinary fuels.

BP Ultimate Diesel takes you further

Less harmful to the environment

BP Ultimate Diesel is a new advanced performance diesel, developed to deliver significant improvements in performance and specially formulated to reduce exhaust emissions.

With the number of vehicles on the roads increasing, more traffic means more emissions, and that will have a resulting negative impact on air quality. So, if you care about the environment, but also want a fuel which makes your engine work better, BP Ultimate Diesel is the solution: it produces fewer harmful emissions than ordinary diesel and actually helps clean your engine to give you increased performance at the same time.

BP Ultimate Diesel has been tested on a wide range of vehicles, and assessments carried out in BP laboratories and test facilities show that BP Ultimate Diesel delivers reductions in emissions of unburnt hydrocarbons (HC), carbon monoxide (CO), oxides of nitrogen (NOx) and particulates compared to ordinary diesel. These emissions benefits are derived from a cleaner engine and a higher cetane quality which together mean that BP Ultimate Diesel burns more efficiently than ordinary diesel.

A selection of vehicles were driven on ordinary fuel and then emissions tested. The same vehicles were then switched to BP Ultimate Diesel and driven over the same distance as previously before being tested again. The data were then compared as shown in the graph.

In addition to these regulated emissions, BP Ultimate Diesel also delivers significant reductions in visible smoke, and has been shown to reduce the number of ultrafine particles emitted, especially under high speed conditions when the highest levels are produced.

# This is an advertorial paid by BP Ultimate

Facts about BP Ultimate diesel: Wheels: SpecialReports (http://www.wheels24.co.za/Content/SpecialReports/62/0ea659c9386044b7b7437e68f5ffa5dc/23-01-2008%2011-01/Facts_about_BP_Ultimate_diesel)



And the BP site information

BP Ultimate UK - BP Ultimate Diesel (http://www.bp.com/genericsection.do?categoryId=4005610&contentId=7009112)

[disco_ute]

That's all good on paper but has any one tried it?

[B92 8NW]

Perth has had it for a while according to the BP website.

I don't mean to be rude or elitist, buy why Perth and Brisbane first? Surely for trial purposes you'd go Sydney first, Melbourne second.

[weeds]

i know a guys that works at the brisbane bp refinery as an operator, i will email him for a heads up

[disco_ute]

as a guess it might be the refinery(s) that make it and they don't want to send it all over Aust?

I remember back when when BP ultimate first came out in petrol the only place you could get it in Melbourne was at the bp near the airport who knows why?

[CraigE]

I have not tried BP Ultimate diesel and am a bit sceptical about another higher priced fuel that may not do anything, much like BP Ultimate ULP which does not live up to its claims and I have trialed that in 2 V8 Holdens (VT Commodore 5lt and WK Statesman 5.7lt) a V8 Rangie and 2 road bikes. The Ultimate ULP is a waste of money IMHO.
However in 1998 I pulled into a Mobil servo in Perth and they had a Diesel premium so I gave a tankfull a go. Have not seen it again since, so maybe some sort of trial or additive. It may have been my imagination, but at the time we had the Disco 300tdi 97 model towing a camper trailer and we were averaging 750-800kms per tank on this one tank we got 920kms. Go figure. I have also found that shell diesel seems to burn better and give better fuel economy. I believe shell put in an additive as well, but is no were near as noticeable.

[Wortho]

Does anyone know if it cleans powerfully at all, i didn't see any reference to cleaning in that blurb:D:D

[Slunnie]

Does anyone know if it cleans powerfully at all, i didn't see any reference to cleaning in that blurb:D:D

I'm not sure. I didn't notice any comment about any powerful cleaning from this fuel, unless it was because I was a bit stuck in it producing 8% more power for 8% better acceleration. :D

[DirtyDawg]

All right I will go crash test dummie..next tank fill, I will fill up the BMW oops I meant the Rangie and give it a whirl.....;)

[Michael2]

If you want a cleaning fluid, why not run a mix of Bio-D and actually pay less per tank?

Will be looking forward to the test results.

[Dorko]

I use BP Ultimate for my ute. Its the best unleaded fuel! more power and more range off a tank. So when i get my FL2 its going to get the BP Ultimate Diesel fuel.

Dorko

[gogg0]

We use BP Ultimate unleaded in both the old Merc. 250SE and VH Valiant Charger with a hot 265. It is by far the best unleaded in these old bangers.

[gruntfuttock]

I think you will find that as these old cars were made to run on super, any permium fuel with an octane of around 95 would be okay. Standard fuel was from memorz about 89 octane and that is around what std uleaded is now.
I could be wrong but that is what a few of the people around here with old cars say.

cheers

[weeds]

i thought we were talking diesel:p

anyway here is a response from my mate.....not much to work on....buyer beware


Mate we are doing nothing different. We've been making 10ppm sulphur for about 18months now. I think it's just a marketing thing.

Dave...

[weeds]

The less suphur is better burning and cleaner for the enviroment.

Not too sure on what their saying about. But it's the same stuff we've been making for about 18 months

It sounds like a name change with a marketing spin on it.......i wonder if the price will go up

[hodgo]

From what I gather it's going to be trialed in 46 sites in greater Brisbane starting Mon 6th October 2008

any one tried it yet?

Mick
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Checked with our local BP servo when I refueld the bus tonight, The manager knew what I was talking about but he said it wount be available until about Decemberaccording to BP Qld.

Hodgo

[BMKal]

That's all good on paper but has any one tried it?

Yes - I've tried a couple of tanks of it in the D2 when I was driving regularly between Fremantle & Kalgoorlie (approx. 640 km) for work a few months back.

It makes absolutely NO difference at all to either the fuel economy or the performance of mine - other than lightening the hip pocket. I drove the same route each trip, and most of the journey is at ~ 120 km/h on the cruise control, with no real difference in load - and I use almost exactly 62 litres each trip, regardless of which diesel fuel I had in the tank.

As far as I'm concerned - just another con job by BP. In fact, I stopped buying fuel from BP in Perth after trying this stuff, because most of the garages I found offered BP Ultimate Diesel only, and did not have the standard lower cost diesel. Fortunately, the BP Truck Stop out at The Lakes still has standard diesel through a fast pump.

[isuzurover]

Perth has had it for a while according to the BP website.

I don't mean to be rude or elitist, buy why Perth and Brisbane first? Surely for trial purposes you'd go Sydney first, Melbourne second.

The 2 BP refineries in OZ are in Brisbane and Perth.

Fuel usually isn't transported interstate. They probably wanted to see if the market was there before they started transporting it to sydney and melb.

I have filled up on it once. Can't say I noticed the difference.

[disco_ute]

The 2 BP refineries in OZ are in Brisbane and Perth.

Fuel usually isn't transported interstate. They probably wanted to see if the market was there before they started transporting it to sydney and melb.

I have filled up on it once. Can't say I noticed the difference.

Correct apart from BP Ultimate Unleaded gets shipped to Melb, Syd etc (places where they done have a refinery) the rest comes out of local refineries so the same will happen with BP Diesel if the fine ppl of WA and QLD suck it up.

Mick

[scarry]

I recon we have too many different types of fuel now.Another type will only confuse the issue & more people will be accidently use the wrong fuel.

I know we should be talking about diesel,but just thought i would throw this in.
One of the garages near here has ethanol only,and also diesel.

When i rang the particular oil company's customer care line they said the govt is pushing for this(QLD) & they have had a lot of complaints from customers.

[isuzurover]

Correct apart from BP Ultimate Unleaded gets shipped to Melb, Syd etc (places where they done have a refinery) the rest comes out of local refineries so the same will happen with BP Diesel if the fine ppl of WA and QLD suck it up.

Mick

Not sure what you are disagreeing with Mick???

Most of the fuel sold at BP service stations in Syd, Melb and Adl would be from the local (Non-BP) refineries. I have been out of the loop for a while, so I am not sure if they blend these "premium" fuels locally or ship them from interstate.

Weeds - your mate is right that BP (Bris) has AFAIK been making ULS high cetane diesel for quite a while now. Ever since they had issues with peoples pump seals failing, because they were old and brittle and didn't like the low aromatic high parrafin/olefin diesel (but it should be better diesel).

I think this is more about marketing than anything, however by the sound of it, they will be adding extra "cleaning" additives.

[disco_ute]

Not disagreeing with anything just making a point in response to the previous post just too lazy to you the quote button

[leeds]

I asked the same questions in the UK when BP Ultimate appeared.

Basically got told it was marketing hype. Extra cost of fuel did not warrent the so called improvement in economy.

Had an interesting chat with chief environmental health officer in Halifax. He was oppossing ALL residental development (effectively meant a total ban) in a certain area due to pollution. Polluted was nitrogen dioxide he was worried about. Biggest culprits was buses and HGV. In fact a single bus kicked out as much nitrogen dioxide as 70 cars. So in this area on environmental grounds buses should be banned in favour of cars!


Regards

Brendan

[disco_ute]

I asked the same questions in the UK when BP Ultimate appeared.

Basically got told it was marketing hype. Extra cost of fuel did not warrent the so called improvement in economy.

Had an interesting chat with chief environmental health officer in Halifax. He was oppossing ALL residental development (effectively meant a total ban) in a certain area due to pollution. Polluted was nitrogen dioxide he was worried about. Biggest culprits was buses and HGV. In fact a single bus kicked out as much nitrogen dioxide as 70 cars. So in this area on environmental grounds buses should be banned in favour of cars!


Regards

Brendan


That would be right ban 1 bus and introduce 70 new cars to the road at least the buses aren't hurting the environment anymore :p

[Snapper]

First tank of Ultimate and my TD5 went a further 30 kms of around town driving.

[stevo68]

Filled up last night with first tank, will let you know how it goes compared to normal, pretty much same price as all the other diesel around the place

Regards

Stevo

[Outlaw]

Filled up an hour ago with my first tank... now to see how it powers on ;)

[DirtyDawg]

Well been using it for about 3 weeks and average 40kms extra per tank over three fills from almost empty.
Going to go back to the normal stuff as nearest BP which sells it is 20km away.

[5teve]

closest place to me averages 10c/l more for ultimate... the one and only time i tried it i got about 550k's to a tank which i was not impressed with. My TD5 is very fussy about what it drinks...

seems to prefer the peak (united) stuff (700-800k's per tank town driving almost a thousand on long runs :) ), but i guess all the deisel around perth is all from bp... just not the ultimate stuff...

thanks

Steve

[Outlaw]

The one i filled up at has just replaced there normal diesel with ultimate i think and was the same price as normal :eek:

[Bushwanderer]

Hi All,
On my current trip - Sydney, Broken Hill, Adelaide, Tennant Creek, Mt Isa, Charters Towers, Townsville - I have been monitoring the D3's fuel consumption with a c'van in tow (or at least I was until the hard disk crashed :().

I have found that the range on a full tank to be quite variable. Perhaps this is partly due to faulty pumps and variability in terrain, but I don't think that is the full story.

On the trip, especially from Adelaide to Mt Isa, the consumption seemed particularly poor (it looks like most of the service stations on that section may be supplied by Ausfuels).

I filled up at a BP servo in Charters Towers and the consumption improved greatly (I know that is downhill :D, but not that much).

I realise that a single tank of fuel isn't sufficient to state a result absolutely, but it is something that I will monitor.

What others have said in that the refineries in different areas supply more than one brand of diesel is very true. If so, trying different brands in an area may not show any results.

Best Wishes,
Peter

[Red October]

I'm presently running a tankfull at the moment. So far so good. It seems to be about the same as using Morey's 'Smoke Killer' (a rarity, a product that actually works!) but without having to add it yourself. There is a transcript available of the online forum that BP hosted which seems to cover most FAQ. The only hassle I have with it is that the nearest BP servo that carries it is consistently the dearest for Diesel anyway (37 cents a litre dearer than unleaded) but thats another story.

[MarknDeb]

Gday all, i was speaking to a BP employee (managment) and asked him what was the story with the new Ultimate and he just looked at me and smiled, then said dont bother with it it was a sales gimic and stay with the normal deisel.