Discovery 2 Propshaft Failures

[David Hallworth]

Guys,

Final bit of help that I need to ask for.....

If your propshaft has failed, can you please post answers to the following questions:

1. Is your car a TD5 or a V8?
2. Is yours a Manual or Automatic?

Thanks in advance.

Also, If you don't mind guys, can i trouble you to post the information as well.

Regards

David.

[Baffle]

David,
I think this failure depends on k's ,extremes of off road use and time, raised?.AND wether the air con unit has been dripping on it.
I voted, good poll:D

[Bundalene]

After hearing of all the problems with these unis, I replaced mine with greasable unis before there was a problem and grease the unis regularly - every 10,000kms or more ofter when wet. This has been in the vehicle for about 150kms now. (about 1 hrs work and under $100)

Erich

[Graeme]

David,
I think this failure depends on k's ,extremes of off road use and time, raised?.AND wether the air con unit has been dripping on it.
I voted, good poll:D
Or if the vehicle is driven on muddy roads with hot unis...

[crl]

Mine was eight years old with 110000kms on the clock when it happened. The water dripping from the aircon on to the hot UJ eventually washed all the grease out.

[IceFyre]

It failed in my old D2:

1999 D2 TD5 Manual
Failed in 2007 @ ~ 215,000 Kms

Caught before any damage and fixed pronto :)

I have already pro-actively replaced mine in my new D2.

[crl]

I wish I was proactive.

[scarry]

Just had mine replaced done 65thou k,were ok,but wanted greasable before problem occurs.Also piped ac drain to one side.

[MickS]

It failed in my old D2:

1999 D2 TD5 Manual
Failed in 2007 @ ~ 215,000 Kms

Caught before any damage and fixed pronto :)

I have already pro-actively replaced mine in my new D2.

Yep - '99 TD5 auto - just cracked 200k last week - caught it before it could do any damage.

Cheers

[LandyAndy]

At around 220000ks.Already was aware of the issue.
No damage at all,picked it up before it failed.Must add I have a 2" lift that must add to the problem.
Replaced with greasable uni joints that I belive should have been factory issue.
Andrew

[tedndoi]

Forced to replace mine at 112,000kms after failure to the front shaft while travelling to the Canning @ Olympic Dam. A two day layover waiting for a greaseable shaft from Adelaide.

[akelly]

TD5 Auto. Done a lot of towing (2t boat) and just over 200k. Managed to catch it (heard the chirping) before it went bang.

I went for a brand new shaft from Karcraft (Bearmach) rather than a rebuilt grease-able one - I just dont think the grease-able uni joints are as strong (I could be wrong, but 200k out of a stock DC joint is pretty good I think). I will re-route the aircon outlet as well, that did pump a lot of water out when we lived in the NT.

Cheers,

Adam

[DiscoStew]

TD5, Auto

Happened just after a drive up to Darwin and back. I suspect not a coincidence and had something to do with the red dust getting into the grease.

[crash]

170,000kms, standard vehicle, Auto, TD5, still no problem.
I am going to re route the air con drain soon.
Is it possible to get a needle on the end of a grease gun and poke it through the rubber boot and keep it topped up with gease that way?

[Rayngie]

Both mine have been done in the last 10 months, car's only done 114k's...

[Zute]

I find it interesting that it seems to be happening more to the td5 autos. Could this be that the gear change from the auto creates more of a shock load than manuals ? I would also be interested to see if the auto's replace the rear donut more often.
Or it could be the auto's use the air con more often because there drivers are just soft.:D





Or they get out in the mud more.:o

[LandyAndy]

I think you will find the manuals are not as common as autos.I would have thought an auto would actually be a bit kinder on the driveline.
Andrew

[Grumndriva]

V8 Auto, treated well except for a bit of towing. 160,000 km or thereabouts. Felt the vibration starting and caught it before it failed catastrophically.

[Blknight.aus]

the manual puts less torque down into the shafts (well untill you chip them anyway)

the snappage method of failure starts out with an internal component getting sloppy or siezing up which then throws the alignment out, once the alignments out it just fatigues parts untill something gives... the more torque you put in the faster it lets go.

Id have expected speed to be more of a factor but Ive had it theorized at me that they might "balance" themselves up above certain speeds in much the same way that occasionally if you get a wheel out of balance driving faster can make the vibration it causes go away...

I'd like to believe it but I just cant see myself telling some one "yep if your front propshaft starts to chirp at you just drive faster.."

[simonl8353]

My V8 auto has had a refurbished front prop and had greasable U/J's fitted to the DC joint. Excellent!
Dont know why, as was done by the previous owner. Was it a prevention, or a failure?
"Gotta ask yourself..did I fire 5 shots or 6 shots...? Well punk,.. do you feel lucky..? ...............(sorry off topic now, damn red..):angel:

[Baffle]

My V8 auto has had a refurbished front prop and had greasable U/J's fitted to the DC joint. Excellent!
Dont know why, as was done by the previous owner. Was it a prevention, or a failure?
"Gotta ask yourself..did I fire 5 shots or 6 shots...? Well punk,.. do you feel lucky..? ...............(sorry off topic now, damn red..):angel:

:lol2::lol2:

[ozscott]

Had a play at Bribie today...teaching a mate to beach drive. I noticed chirping on take off even with modest throttle, worse in the deep soft sand on the front beach. It is coming from around the prop shaft area and given I have 135,000 (had it since new) and a lot of off roading and towing a 2 tonn boat I reckon Im about due for a new uni! Its clicking as I take off and I picked up a replacement - used to come only as a propshaft and uni combo but now LR do the uni by itself. Off to Fraser this week, so couldnt be bothered chasing around a greasable one. I will route the drain tubes away before the new one goes on and I reckon the sealed unit should give me a lot longer life.

Cheers

[ozscott]

Bugger...my unis are fine - no play at all in the cardin or in the greasable uni...dont know what the noise is. The rubber boot is torn so I will replace that. Could be axle splines or diff I guess....

Cheers

[David Hallworth]

Thought I'd just update this a little.

We have now been through 2 hearings in the courts and Land Rover have tried to dismiss it on both occasions.

The Sheriff last time we were in court has set a date to go to proof (Final Trial) as Land Rover at the 1st hearing failed to lodge any answers with the court.

On the 2nd hearing they tried to have the case dismissed as an irrelevant claim, they failed at this also and we now have a final date set.

I'll keep you guys posted.

Regards
David.

[DISCOBEAR]

I've got a 2003 D2 with 65K but am finding when I tow my 2T boat that it's starting to shudder under acceleration recently (last weekend). Have ordered new prop shafts with greasable uni's through my Brother outlaw which will be a this weekend job under the hoist. A/C outlet hose already re-routed.
Cheers
Glenn