wolf rim and wheel stud solution?

[rar110]

I have searched the forum and google looking for the best wheel stud to suit wolf rims. Quite a good rim, not that heavy - tubeless, genuine, and reasonable offset.

Problem - Wolf rims have a heavier guage steel for the centre so defender and county wheel studs are a little short. When the wolf rim is fitted to a county hub you can see 1 - 2 mm of thread on the wheel nut.

There is an extra long wheel stud (part no FRC7577) that suites the wolf rim. However, it results in about 6 to 8 mm of surplus thread after the nut is fitted. These are also fairly expensive. The standard defender wheel stud (FRC5926) is longer than the county wheel studs (FRC6137), but is only just long enough (maybe 1 mm short).

What have others done who have bought wolf rims? Fitted extra long wheel studs or fitted/retained standard defender wheel studs? Does the standard 130 defender have longer wheel studs and a different part number?

thanks

RAR110

[justinc]

A friend of mine bought a set of tube type 1998 defender 130 rims (Like a wolf but not tubeless) and grafted disco 7" tubeless bands to them. The offset he selected is .5" more than the 130 standard offset so it will not interfere with the turning circle and they are now shod with 255/85/16 tyres . They look fantastic after sandblasting and painting in the OE white, and for all the world look like genuine wolf tubeless ones. The centre isn't as thick as wolf ones by the sound of it, as the standard 130 studs look fine still.
Maybe this would be an option ?

JC

[spudboy]

I've put Wolfs on my 110 and my 130 and retained the original 'short' studs on both. They are both the same length AFAIK (110 and 130).

The studs sit 1 or 2 mm below the top of the wheelnuts on mine, just the same as yours.

I'd like to have 2 or 3 mm more thread but have had no issues with anything coming loose on either car.

[jddisco200tdi]

I used to run tubeless wolf rims on my disco D1 with standard studs. Never had any problems with wheel nuts coming loose.
The disco is going and the wheels will go on the new defender.

Regards

John D - Defender 110 2.4

[mark2]

I've just bought a set of Wolf rims for my 110 (tubed 130 rims).
Painted them on the weekend and will get the tyres swapped over once the paint hardens.

I've test-fitted them and the studs are a bit short, more so on the back with the drums, but only by a couple of threads and my research suggests it wont be an issue. Apparently 7 turns is regarded as sufficient in racing circles and even on the back they get more than that.

I dont know how it will go if I ever have to get a RWC inspection or if I get pulled up by the QLD Tranport inspectors.

Machining a bit off the flat end of the wheel nuts would probably solve the above inspection issues.

[mark2]

A friend of mine bought a set of tube type 1998 defender 130 rims (Like a wolf but not tubeless) and grafted disco 7" tubeless bands to them. The offset he selected is .5" more than the 130 standard offset so it will not interfere with the turning circle and they are now shod with 255/85/16 tyres . They look fantastic after sandblasting and painting in the OE white, and for all the world look like genuine wolf tubeless ones. The centre isn't as thick as wolf ones by the sound of it, as the standard 130 studs look fine still.
Maybe this would be an option ?

JC

The 130 tubed centers are the same thickness as the 'Wolf' rims. I suspect that 130's have a longer stud.

[isuzurover]

No wolf rims, but I have disco rims on both my vehicles, and the extra thickness of the centre means 1-2mm of the thread of the nuts is exposed.

One vehicle has been this way for 13 years, the other for 6 years. Both have been driven on all sorts of terrain, all over the country, with no problems.

Both vehicles have also been through roadworthys in 2 different states.

However - S1 Discoveries must have longer studs??? So these could be fitted?

[Sleepy]

I've used 130 rims on original studs on my 110 and 90 for 7 years - no dramas.

(I think the 90 studs are even shorter than the 110 but still ok.)

[streaky]

Original 130 wheel studs are longer than normal because of the rim thickness.

I have Wolf tubeless Rims on my Discovery and haven't had any problems yet...my 130 had the longer studs that are available through Britpart Dealers.

I like the longer studs for peice of mind and will be fitting them when I next change the discs.

[rar110]

thanks all for the reply.

I have thought of changing the bands over to 7 inch using disco wheels, and was wondering about the size of the center. Both rims are welded rather than held together with rivets, so would be fairly straight forward exercise. I should done this with tubed 130 wheels - heaps cheaper.

I am a bit jaded about using short county wheel studs, particularly after an experiece where all wheel nuts came off along with the wheel (note check wheel nuts after going to a workshop).

Sounds like standard defender wheel studs are sufficient or wolf version to be sure.