Rims

[ruskinrowe]

What other cars have the same wheel stud pattern and offset as the series 2a landrovers?

Can I use most any Land Rover Rim?


-Bryan.

[LandyAndy]

YES
Any steel wheel up to the Disco1/Disco2 changeover in 1998/99.Any Defender steel wheel inc the current model.
Andrew

[numpty]

As Andrew says, those will all fit, but they all have different offsets.

Whether this bothers you for the use you intend is only something you can know.

[ruskinrowe]

I was looking for something not steel, some kind of mag, wouldn't they suit off any of the land rovers you've said?

I want to get some road tyres on there and keep my 4wd ones for the dirt.

[Redback]

Any Land Rover, EXCEPT Discovery2 P38A RR, D3, RRS.

[Tusker]

Not quite true Baz.

Alloys can jam on the hubs which weren't intended for alloys. There's a slash on the studs indicating if its alloy friendly.

There there are different centre hole sizes etc etc.

Regards
Max P

[dandlandyman]

I've been told FJ Holdens (and therefore the earlier 48-215s) have the same stud pattern. The centre "hole" - for the wheel bearing housing - isn't a worry because it's like the VW beetle, a rounded star shape. Not actually sure, though, if the VW is the same pattern. FJs have a smaller stud, but this is easy fixed with a drill or reamer. They use a narrow 15" tyre. I have no idea about offsets though.

Dan.
69 2A 88" pet4, 74 3 109" pet4, 68 2B FC pet6.

[B92 8NW]

The D1/Def/RRC alloys wont be able to use centre caps on the IIA, and if free wheeling hubs are fitted, wont fit at all.

[JDNSW]

I've been told FJ Holdens (and therefore the earlier 48-215s) have the same stud pattern. The centre "hole" - for the wheel bearing housing - isn't a worry because it's like the VW beetle, a rounded star shape. Not actually sure, though, if the VW is the same pattern. FJs have a smaller stud, but this is easy fixed with a drill or reamer. They use a narrow 15" tyre. I have no idea about offsets though.

Dan.
69 2A 88" pet4, 74 3 109" pet4, 68 2B FC pet6.

I don't think any Holden wheels are the same, or any other manufacturer except Landrover.

As stated, Landrover retained the same stud pattern on all models from 1948 to the Disco 2 and P38A, and the Defender remains the same.

However, the protrusion of the hub was different on the RR, 90/110, Defender and Disco compared to Series Landrovers, and in general, the centre hole or depression in alloy wheels designed for these will not fit Series hubs. In addition, many alloy wheels designed for those vehicles with four wheel disc brakes will not fit drumbraked models.

John

[isuzurover]

I don't think any Holden wheels are the same, or any other manufacturer except Landrover.

As stated, Landrover retained the same stud pattern on all models from 1948 to the Disco 2 and P38A, and the Defender remains the same.

However, the protrusion of the hub was different on the RR, 90/110, Defender and Disco compared to Series Landrovers, and in general, the centre hole or depression in alloy wheels designed for these will not fit Series hubs. In addition, many alloy wheels designed for those vehicles with four wheel disc brakes will not fit drumbraked models.

John

To add to what JD said above, from Series 3 and RRC on, they also switched to larger diameter wheel studs. I have never seen alloy nuts for the S1/SII size studs. So if you have a 2A, you will need to upgrade to series 3 hubs (possibly fitted with alloy rim specific? studs) if you want alloys.

You may also need to machine out the centre hole in the rim.

[DeeJay]

To add to what JD said above, from Series 3 and RRC on, they also switched to larger diameter wheel studs. I have never seen alloy nuts for the S1/SII size studs. So if you have a 2A, you will need to upgrade to series 3 hubs (possibly fitted with alloy rim specific? studs) if you want alloys.

You may also need to machine out the centre hole in the rim.

I wonder if you could re-tap the existing stud holes & swap over to series 3 or rangie studs?
Probably more work though:angel:

[Dinty]

G'day All, I knew a chap who had a Series 2A 109 he had mag wheels on it and the wheel nuts were to suit the rims and the thread size was 9/16" BSF, and from some where in the distant past I recall that FX218/FJ rims were the same PCD as Land Rover, memory might be failing me but I know where there is a set of wide wheels 13" dia and these have some type of sand tyre on them and they are early model holden rims to suit Land Rover, and before you ask they are 85km's from my place so I'm not going to whiz out and look at them LOL cheers Dennis:angel:
PS the cahp who had the mags is now deceased and the L/rover went to Fraser Island about 9 years ago with the wheels on it..

[isuzurover]

I wonder if you could re-tap the existing stud holes & swap over to series 3 or rangie studs?
Probably more work though:angel:

Series 1/2 are screwed into the hub, SIII and later are pressed in. You would have to drill them out AND machine a flat circle on the back for the stud flange. Also - I think SIII-on are slightly thicker?


I recall that FX218/FJ rims were the same PCD as Land Rover, memory might be failing me

http://holdenpaedia.oldholden.com/index.php/Stud_Patterns

Sorry Dinty (and dandlandyman), but this site says your memory is failing ;) FJ and FX (48-215) holdens had 5 on 4.25" NOT 5 on 6.5" like a landie has.

[Blknight.aus]

the deal with the holden rims that had the same PCD was thusly...

you could put the early series 2 rims onto the holden and the holden onto the series providing you widened the center hole a little.

but when the larger wheel studs and nuts came in it was game over...

you could put the landy wheel onto the holden but not the other way around without redrilling the rim.

[JDNSW]

Series 1/2 are screwed into the hub, SIII and later are pressed in. You would have to drill them out AND machine a flat circle on the back for the stud flange. Also - I think SIII-on are slightly thicker?
........

Studs were screwed in (and staked into a groove on the back) from 1948 until very late Series 2a, and were 9/16 BSF. These were replaced by pressed in 9/16 BSF studs which were used only very briefly, being replaced by M16 pressed in studs in the last of the S2a, the same as used by RR since 1970, I believe.

These have remained the same to the current Defender (although lengths have varied). At least in theory, it is easy to modify the hubs for the latest studs, although there may be an issue in drilling the larger hole exactly centred on the original hole. The hole in the brake drum is also larger for the 16mm studs, but accurate drilling of this is less important, as it is not a tight fit on the stud.

John

[isuzurover]

the deal with the holden rims that had the same PCD

Dave - according to the link I posted above, NO HOLDEN RIMS had the same PCD as a LR. Unless you know something they don't???

[Blknight.aus]

back when I was a holden boy because of my extended familys allegience

I couldnt remember the model but there was a couple that used a non standard holden rim from memory I think it was for a heavy duty version of a utility. I rememember a tyre blowing out on the front of the farm hack and when we nabbed a spare from someones car to get it back to the yard it was too small in the PCD but a landy tyre fitted enough to get it back....

Its one of those things that stick with you but the vehicle in question was a farm hack and being of the days of leaf springs it doesnt take much to swap an axle housing out. I too could be wrong...