D2 Mag wheels

[Bundalene]

Has anyone successfully removed a tyre off a Series2 Disco mag wheel without the use of a tyre machine. These wheels have an offset safety seal. Due to this the bead has to be broken adjacent to the valve stem first.

Do tyre pliers work on these rims?

Fortunately I have never had to do this without a machine, but breaking the bead on these is a real pain.

Erich

[dmdigital]

According to Tyreplier Engineering it is possible. I asked this question of them when I picked up my camper trailer. The response was a guarded "yes, if you know what you are doing".

Do the Defender alloy rims have the same step in them?

[Bundalene]

According to Tyreplier Engineering it is possible. I asked this question of them when I picked up my camper trailer. The response was a guarded "yes, if you know what you are doing".

Do the Defender alloy rims have the same step in them?

I don't know about the Defender rims. They are a bit new for me at present and I haven't had to remove any yet :D:D:D

Erich

[Graeme]

Yes, using the D2 Superfoot attachment. Buggerlugs needed a tyre repair on Madigans this year. It was much faster the 2nd time a few minutes later to insert a tube.

[Tombie]

I've done it 3 different ways...

R & R Bead breaker

Hi_Lift off the tow hitch

Driving Over the tyre

Partly it depends on how long the tyre has been on the rim, and how much soap was used during its fitment...

Also helps that I have a pile of weight to put into it!

[p38arover]

In theory, the AH2 bead lock used on the P38A and D2 (and later LRs) requires a machine to roll the bead off without damage.

[Tombie]

I spoke to Steve at Eastern Wheel Works about this.

He's machined the bead down for a few offroad travellers... He's licensed to modify wheels and does it enough to make removing the tyre easier.

[Xtreme]

I have successfully broken the bead on a D2 Alloy rim using the Tyre Jaws (see attached pic) but haven't been successful in levering the tyre off the rim without damaging the rim slightly.

Roger

[Bundalene]

I've done it 3 different ways...

R & R Bead breaker

Hi_Lift off the tow hitch

Driving Over the tyre

Partly it depends on how long the tyre has been on the rim, and how much soap was used during its fitment...

Also helps that I have a pile of weight to put into it!

Hi, these methods work well on steel wheels and the hi-lift method is how I have always repaired tyres on earlier Defenders. The S2 mags seem to be a different kettle of fish. I am not saying the beed won't break using those methods. Because of the tapered lip on the safety seal they are way more difficult, requiring an effort on a tyre machine. The bead will not just pop like on standard steel rims but has to be worked on almost the full circumference.


I am just trying to gauge what additional tyre changing gear I should be looking at buying or making.

Thanks, Erich

[Xtreme]

Here's another successful (home made) beadbreaker that I've seen being used effectively on a tyre that had been on an ols Series rim for more than 30 years. Although I haven't seen it used on a D2 rim, I believe that it would be quite successful.
Even though it is a bit bulky to carry when dismantled, it requires very little effort to use and I'm sure would be most welcome on a remote area group trip.

It still doesn't solve the problem of levering the tyre ver the rim without damaging the rim though. If anyone has an easy, non damaging way of doing this then I'd be very interested to hear about it.

Roger

[crash]

I have succesfully used the tyre pliers to remove a tyre from a D2 rim. I did however mark the rim a bit.
I have even broken the bead while the tyre and rim were still on the vehicle using the tyre pliers to clear mud from between the rim and the tyres rim protector.
Just a thought - could you use a small piece of rubber against the rim to protect it as you lever the tyre off?

[Xtreme]

...................Just a thought - could you use a small piece of rubber against the rim to protect it as you lever the tyre off?

Due to the multiple repositioning required, I don't think the small piece of ruer would work too well.
However, you have got me thinking about adapting the principle that is used at the tyre shops. It might just be possible, having broken the beads, to bolt the wheel back into the spare wheel carrier and use a lever with a centre pivot to run around the rim and thereby remove the tyre.
I must investigate it further.

Of course the other option is just to run steel rims when on extended remote area trips, as I do now.

Roger

[Redback]

I have done a RRS with the R & R Beadbreaker, i did slightly damage the centre hole, but i think if i had the LR special attachment, i may have prevented the damage, they are a bugger to get off though, i prevented damage to the outer of the rim by using those plastic rim protectors when levering the tyre off, repaired the tyre and put it back on, much easier too put back on.

I was told that Tyrepliers won't do it as easy as the R & R Beadbreaker.

Baz.

[p38arover]

I have an early R&R Beadbreaker which is a pain in the proverbial on LR alloys. Unless they have improved a lot, I wouldn't recommend one.