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The ho har's
25th October 2008, 12:36 PM
Just watched the above show......interesting it was all about Fraser Island...part 2 next week. Time will tell if it is any good I guess;)


Mrs ho har:angel:

inside
25th October 2008, 09:07 PM
It looks quite good. It is heavily sponsored though hence the Kias, it did show recovery techniques and just watching makes you want to get away for a few days. The Cape is coming up in a few weeks. I wonder if they took the Kias?

discowhite
25th October 2008, 09:23 PM
there sponsered by kia, corse they would take them!
for what the show is its quite watchable, not boring even if youve seen dvd's of others doing the same trips. its abit more down to earth.

sponsers make the world go round;)

cheers phil

cucinadio
25th October 2008, 09:55 PM
would anyone mind recording it for me ......l work most sat's and the wife always forgets..."mmm let me see now"...there might be something in that....lol


cheers

Tombie
25th October 2008, 10:01 PM
What channel?

stevo68
25th October 2008, 10:45 PM
What channel? Hey mate...channel 10,

Regards

Stevo

long stroke
26th October 2008, 07:04 AM
would anyone mind recording it for me ......l work most sat's and the wife always forgets..."mmm let me see now"...there might be something in that....lol


cheers

I think you will beable to buy the whole series once this season is finished;)

McDisco
26th October 2008, 07:40 AM
Yeah its not bad. I have never really liked Pat as a presenter...comes across as a bit smug to me. But its good to see a dedicated 4wd show on commercial television. Where I am I cant get 4wdTv cause of reception problems. :(

Angus

Phoenix
27th October 2008, 08:14 AM
I didn't think it was too bad actually. The Mrs liked the look of that camer though!

Ace
27th October 2008, 08:26 AM
So channel 10, what time and day? Sounds interesting.

stevo68
27th October 2008, 09:42 AM
So channel 10, what time and day? Sounds interesting. Saturdays...12-12.30pm...from Stevos TV guide :),

Regards

Stevo

agrojnr
27th October 2008, 03:55 PM
Here is the web site

Welcome to Pat Callinan's 4X4 Adventures! (http://mr4x4.com.au/)


Adam

LRHybrid100
6th November 2008, 09:03 AM
Yeah its not bad. I have never really liked Pat as a presenter...comes across as a bit smug to me. But its good to see a dedicated 4wd show on commercial television. Where I am I cant get 4wdTv cause of reception problems. :(

Angus

Free downloads are available of most of the recent eps of 4WD TV

WasabiTV - Watch and Download Free Online TV and Video: 4wd TV - Episode Index (http://www.wasabitv.com.au/'s=4wdtv&mode=index)

LRHybrid100
6th November 2008, 09:07 AM
I actually saw these 2 Kia's at El Questro back in Aug - they looked suspicious both with white GME ariels making them look like giant remote cars!!!

LRH

101RRS
6th November 2008, 10:29 AM
I didn't realise Sorrentos were dual range - was surprised when they said they needed a proper 4wd with low range to go to Sandy Cape and they hopped into a Kia to go.

Garry

njz
6th November 2008, 10:54 AM
When we were up at Fraser in September we tried to help a poor family in a stuck Sorento. He couldn't get up to a camp site due to the soft sand.

Short of me towing them and their trailer there was no chance of it getting through the soft stuff.

It was funny when he accidentally left it in drive while it was stuck - only 1 front wheel was turning. :eek:

Ace
18th January 2011, 03:25 PM
Saw it again on Saturday, was doing the Flinders Ranges and Skytrek. Not a bad show.

Sponsored by Nissan now, which i dont mind, but they go way over the top with product placement.

subasurf
18th January 2011, 03:30 PM
but they go way over the top with product placement.

and his annoying family :p

Ace
18th January 2011, 03:32 PM
and his annoying family :p

When he was sitting down interviewing the guy it reminded me of an episode of Russel Coight LOL

MickS
18th January 2011, 03:47 PM
but they go way over the top with product placement.

As opposed to any other similarly themed show/mag yada yada yada?? ... no placement = no sponsor = no money.

Tombie
18th January 2011, 04:09 PM
Meet Pat....
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/01/601.jpg


Even had friends comment that he resembles the above.

Very anti-Landrover.. Slagged the LR as too unrelaible for a desert run last week....

keith73
18th January 2011, 04:18 PM
Meet Pat....
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/01/601.jpg


Even had friends comment that he resembles the above.

Very anti-Landrover.. Slagged the LR as too unrelaible for a desert run last week....
Wonder how much nissan paid him too say that?

Ace
18th January 2011, 05:13 PM
As opposed to any other similarly themed show/mag yada yada yada?? ... no placement = no sponsor = no money.

I understand that there is a need for the sponsorship, not complaining about the fact that nissan sponsors the show, I think I said that in my post, but every second sentence was "My nissan patrol this" and "My nissan patrol that". Then after only asking the owner of the property that has skytrek on it a few questions they was time asking him about his two nissan patrols. I'd prefer to know some history about the property or something.

I think its possible to be tactful with product placement without going over the top.

ramblingboy42
18th January 2011, 05:32 PM
I think hes good for the public conception (misconception?) of 4w-driving. He keeps it clean, smooth and simple. I think its too simple and smooth but the majority of what he does and explains to the average Joe makes us look good and we need that.

Hall
18th January 2011, 06:32 PM
Yes I watched the show this weekend too. Did like the track up to the look out. Aside from the product placement. ( was there any? Nahh...) What also came across from the show for me was how deep your pocket need to be or at least if you were to get all the gear in the show. Not overly real world. Certainly helps when you are fully equipped by sponsors.
Cheers Hall

Ace
18th January 2011, 06:41 PM
Yes I watched the show this weekend too. Did like the track up to the look out. Aside from the product placement. ( was there any? Nahh...) What also came across from the show for me was how deep your pocket need to be or at least if you were to get all the gear in the show. Not overly real world. Certainly helps when you are fully equipped by sponsors.
Cheers Hall

Yeah, thats it.

Would be good to see a show like that on free to air TV with some more detailed tech segment, DIY stuff, like welding rocksliders that sort of thing. But then if you do that you arent buying the products they are advertising, which they need to do to fund the show.

MickS
18th January 2011, 07:37 PM
Yes I watched the show this weekend too. Did like the track up to the look out. Aside from the product placement. ( was there any? Nahh...) What also came across from the show for me was how deep your pocket need to be or at least if you were to get all the gear in the show. Not overly real world. Certainly helps when you are fully equipped by sponsors.
Cheers Hall

I am no Pat Callinan sympathiser by any stretch...but go back and watch some of the old 4x4 monthly DVD's, and he is on record, plenty of times, saying "you are far better off buying a second hand fourby and with any money left over, spend it on mods.." Unless you have the ability to do things yourself, all mods/accessories - especially in the 4wd game - are going to cost.

If you look at the web site, the patrol he drives has not had a great deal of mods done to it, compared to many other 4wd's on the road.

It was mentioned above he slagged LR for dependability on a desert crossing. I reckon there are some Puma owners - and discos and rangie owners - who would silently agree.

Full credit to the bloke ... he is doing what many of us can only dream of...make a good living from something he loves doing...and take his family along for the ride at the same time. Seems the tall poppy syndrome is still a part of our landscape - as Australyan as a dogs eye ;)

agrojnr
18th January 2011, 07:47 PM
Hey guys I watch the show when I can and have his dvd's

I like the concept of the show but yes the sponser adverts drive me insane but its more aimed at the novice not the experenced

BTW he used to own a 130:cool:

Adam

subasurf
18th January 2011, 07:59 PM
It was mentioned above he slagged LR for dependability on a desert crossing. I reckon there are some Puma owners - and discos and rangie owners - who would silently agree.


Absolutely. I know if I was doing a really serious desert crossing that really did rely on a reliable vehicle, I'd be going with an old Toyota.

DeanoH
18th January 2011, 08:07 PM
Absolutely. I know if I was doing a really serious desert crossing that really did rely on a reliable vehicle, I'd be going with an old Toyota.

Or Australian made from your own town.

Deano:)

Ean Austral
18th January 2011, 08:18 PM
I watched his Canning stock route DVD about 3 weeks before we did it, and that trip really opened my eyes to how much he plugs his sponsers.

I dont mind them getting mentioned, but an example was his perelli scorpions and how they survived the trip and you would be foolish to use anything else..Well I seen cars do that trip with H/T tyres and drive out on the same tyres they went in with, same with my Wranglers and the other cars with bridgestones, coopers, etc.

All in All his shows are good and am sure he knows his stuff , just think abit of footage of all his assistants cars and stuff, might give some more insight to what it really takes...ie his comment that he decided 1 day to do the canning and 10 days later he did it...with the aid of 3 other cars with mechanics, a cook and all the other stuff, but that wasnt shown, so people may think they can do the same..

Cant see his shows changing any, so guess Nissan will get plenty more plugs.

My 2c worth

Cheers Ean

Ace
18th January 2011, 08:42 PM
Full credit to the bloke ... he is doing what many of us can only dream of...make a good living from something he loves doing...and take his family along for the ride at the same time. Seems the tall poppy syndrome is still a part of our landscape - as Australyan as a dogs eye ;)

Credit where its due for sure, I would love to do what he is doing, not knocking the bloke at all, and my initial post was not meant to come across that way if it did.

Having said that I believe some contructive criticism of the show isnt a bad thing, things dont improve without it. I dont see knocking the show because of excessive product placement is tall poppy syndrome. He knows his stuff for sure, he wouldnt have his own TV show if he didnt have something to bring to the table.

MickS
18th January 2011, 08:59 PM
Having said that I believe some contructive criticism of the show isnt a bad thing, things dont improve without it. I dont see knocking the show because of excessive product placement is tall poppy syndrome.

Wasn't quoting you.

But you are probably better sending constructive criticism here ;) :

Pat Callinan Media Pty Ltd
P.O. Box 3078
East Blaxland 2774
NSW
Australia

or;

Channel 10
GPO BOX 10,
Sydney, NSW 2001

Hall
18th January 2011, 09:02 PM
There is another tv show 4x4 galore. Now that is a example of a more real world 4wd show. I had bagged it a bit for it`s ocker amateur style. But you sure don`t get the sponsor line, sort of shows you can do a show with out the hard sell. Still be watching Pat`s show when I can though.
Cheers Hall

subasurf
18th January 2011, 11:10 PM
I dont mind them getting mentioned, but an example was his perelli scorpions and how they survived the trip and you would be foolish to use anything else..Well I seen cars do that trip with H/T tyres and drive out on the same tyres they went in with, same with my Wranglers and the other cars with bridgestones, coopers, etc.


I've done the Canning Stock Route more than once and on one of the occasions we were in an absolute bush basher of a car with tires that should have been condemned. CSR is a bit of a walk in the park really...it's just very, very long :p

Having said that, I've got Perelli Scorpions on my Hilux Surf and they are pretty damn good :D

EDIT: I guess if you want real outback adventure then you should watch Northern Safari, Across the Top and the Leyland Brother movies. No bs, no advertising just hardcore adventure :D Hell, in Northern Safari he was in a bunky buic and he crossed land that many people wouldn't take their Landies :P

Ace
19th January 2011, 06:53 AM
Wasn't quoting you.

But you are probably better sending constructive criticism here ;) :

Pat Callinan Media Pty Ltd
P.O. Box 3078
East Blaxland 2774
NSW
Australia

or;

Channel 10
GPO BOX 10,
Sydney, NSW 2001

Fair enough, thought it may have been seeing as I seem to have started this discussion. I'd send the criticism if I thought channel 10 would give a rats arse.

Ace
19th January 2011, 06:54 AM
There is another tv show 4x4 galore. Now that is a example of a more real world 4wd show. I had bagged it a bit for it`s ocker amateur style. But you sure don`t get the sponsor line, sort of shows you can do a show with out the hard sell. Still be watching Pat`s show when I can though.
Cheers Hall

When and what channel is that on Hall?

MickS
19th January 2011, 07:18 AM
Fair enough, thought it may have been seeing as I seem to have started this discussion. I'd send the criticism if I thought channel 10 would give a rats arse.

So it's de-constructive criticism :lol2:

Send it to Pat at the address above then...he'll respond ;)

MickS
19th January 2011, 07:30 AM
EDIT: I guess if you want real outback adventure then you should watch Northern Safari, Across the Top and the Leyland Brother movies. No bs, no advertising just hardcore adventure :D Hell, in Northern Safari he was in a bunky buic and he crossed land that many people wouldn't take their Landies :P

Times were a lot different when they were made. No mobile phones, no air lockers, no max traxx...necessity - indeed survival - was the mother of invention.

Northern Safari (1956) clip 1 on ASO - Australia's audio and visual heritage online (http://aso.gov.au/titles/documentaries/northern-safari/clip1/)

Unless a doco is federally funded by way of the ABC/SBS etc, the cost is borne by the individual...unless they can get sponsors on board. And sponsors want value for money, especially when it comes to commercial television ala Pat Callinan's 4x4 adventures. Modern day fact of life.

MickS
19th January 2011, 07:37 AM
When and what channel is that on Hall?

It's an internet show...google is friend

4x4galore.com - The 4WD Internet Adventure Site (http://4x4galore.com/) ;)

Ace
19th January 2011, 07:46 AM
So it's de-constructive criticism :lol2:

Send it to Pat at the address above then...he'll respond ;)

LOL, yeah, I suppose you could call it that.

Are the episodes being played now repeats? Im keen to see a few more episodes before I start sending in letters picking the show to pieces. My comments thus far are based on one episode.

mark2
19th January 2011, 08:27 AM
Meet Pat....
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/01/601.jpg


Even had friends comment that he resembles the above.

Very anti-Landrover.. Slagged the LR as too unrelaible for a desert run last week....

FWIW, Pat once owned a 2a, which after restoring, he managed to write off on the rocks at Rainbow Beach, on his way to Fraser. Back in the early 90's I believe.

stevo68
19th January 2011, 09:15 AM
I've been taping a few of these....watched the first one last night. Off the bat......leaves a show like TG Aust for dead. I really enjoyed it. As for sponsorship.....saying my Nissan this...my Nissan that..................c'mon most of us would give a right nut to be doing what he is doing and going...my landy this....my defender that......just have to pop something in the Disco........etc etc

On the sponsorship front....I think it is great that a 4WD show and products is getting mainstream attention....looking forward to the next one I have taped,

Regards

Stevo

Ace
19th January 2011, 10:52 AM
I've been taping a few of these....watched the first one last night. Off the bat......leaves a show like TG Aust for dead. I really enjoyed it. As for sponsorship.....saying my Nissan this...my Nissan that..................c'mon most of us would give a right nut to be doing what he is doing and going...my landy this....my defender that......just have to pop something in the Disco........etc etc

On the sponsorship front....I think it is great that a 4WD show and products is getting mainstream attention....looking forward to the next one I have taped,

Regards

Stevo

100% agree, and maybe its the fact that im not partial to nissans that makes it bother me so much. Overall I enjoyed the show.

MickS
19th January 2011, 11:40 AM
FWIW, Pat once owned a 2a, which after restoring, he managed to write off on the rocks at Rainbow Beach, on his way to Fraser. Back in the early 90's I believe.

And that's not the only one. He also had that Toyota that he built up. Along with the Kias, Nissans etc etc, I'd say he is in a position to pass comment. More so than a lot of others.

And if Pat Callinan knocked on any one of our doors to do a segment for his show...can't see anyone here worrying too much about product placement ;) "How many times did you want me to mention the ARB fridge Pat?...OK, sweet.." :lol2:

Or, to take a leaf out of Roothy's script on one of the Tassie dvd's..."Geez this Boags beer is good stuff..now, just lift the centre pole...mmmm time for another Boags...now we tie off the guy ropes...did I tell you how good this Boags beer is...? " :Rolling:

Ace
19th January 2011, 11:52 AM
Or, to take a leaf out of Roothy's script on one of the Tassie dvd's..."Geez this Boags beer is good stuff..now, just lift the centre pole...mmmm time for another Boags...now we tie off the guy ropes...did I tell you how good this Boags beer is...? " :Rolling:

LOL, yeah but you expect Roothy to talk alot about beer.

Yeah, i'd go along on the trip with him and I'd shamelessly plug the products for the free ride :D

LowRanger
19th January 2011, 12:27 PM
I think too many people are reading too much into the whole thing.I believe the show is just made as light family entertainment,along with showing off some of the country that isn't readily accessible to the masses.And along those lines,I think it does a good job.It isn't meant as a hardcore 4wd show,where we need to be showing how tough our vehicles are,and how we need to spend hour upon hour winching and recovering the vehicle just to get to some of these places.That would severely limit the audience.
Who really cares if the show plugs Nissans,the Leylands used Landies for years,then sold out to the corporate dollar and used jeeps,volkswagons and Fords.Malcolm Douglas for many years extolled the virtues of his Landy,but he sold out to Toyota,because that is where the money was.And after all,besides making documentaries for the love of it,it is after all a business.
I enjoy any show that shows our country away from the concrete jungles and shows 4wds in general.I am not that one eyed, that I can't appreciate other brands of 4wd,and the advertising that goes along with them.I have owned a few of the other 3 big manufacturers 4wds,but I still have a Landy.But hey.......that is MY choice:D


Wayne

patclan
19th January 2011, 03:38 PM
Meet Pat....
http://www.willowandstone.co.uk/asps/uploads/big/993-1.jpg


Even had friends comment that he resembles the above.

Very anti-Landrover.. Slagged the LR as too unrelaible for a desert run last week....

I was watching that one, he kept my interest until that point, then I tuned out and changed the channel..

ugu80
19th January 2011, 04:58 PM
Watching his show does inspire to jump into my Land Rover Defender, settle into the supportive Recaro seats, protected by the Michelle Sacs durable and good looking seat covers, and get rolling on my BFG comfortable and capable in all conditions (bitumen, mud, rock, sand or bulldust) tyres. Start the engine, made so much better with the safari turbo system, 3" mandrel bent stainless steel Beaudesert custom exhaust and Westend diesel gas injection conrolled by Morepower performance chip to give superb power and economy and no worries with overheating with PWR supercool radiator. Yes, looking at my stylish and rugged super acurate Omega watch, its time to jump and feel the Kings springs and Koni shocks working together in perfect harmony for perfect and safe control in all condtions, turn on the Hema navigator with all the on road and off road mapping I will ever need to not get lost and head off to adventure.

subasurf
19th January 2011, 05:53 PM
YouTube - Wayne´s World - Product Placement

Ace
19th January 2011, 06:41 PM
YouTube - Wayne´s World - Product Placement (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIo61VyRyRo)

Gotta love waynes world.

ugu80, see that was informative, inspiring and motivating without using one bit of obvious product placement. :D

Disco Muppet
12th January 2016, 04:03 PM
Just bought my first PC4x4A mag and DVD...
what a snooze fest!
More ads than anything else, more than 4WDA!
Basically zero driving footage, 'helpful tips' that if you don't know, you're probably mentally incapable of feeding yourself, let alone driving a car.
"had to fix the landy, that was good", the axle dust cap had fallen off.....
Seems there's a decided lack of half decent 4X4 shows...
And don't give me the 'you'd do it too if he asked' crap...no I bloody wouldn't! :twisted:
Better things to do with my time....
$12 wasted :D

Rextheute
12th January 2016, 04:09 PM
I've been enjoying all for adventure ......

All the others shows make me want commit murder ,
" oh fire is hot ,water is wet , hey look we are towing an xyz with a snoozmobile and how's about an advertorial "


And I work in the caravanning / camper industry - it's created a generation of half wits who believe everything they read , with out having a go themselves .

Rant over .....

ramblingboy42
13th January 2016, 06:40 PM
wow what a resurrection.....5yrs less a week.....is that a record?

mikehzz
13th January 2016, 07:48 PM
I've been enjoying all for adventure ......

All the others shows make me want commit murder ,
" oh fire is hot ,water is wet , hey look we are towing an xyz with a snoozmobile and how's about an advertorial "


And I work in the caravanning / camper industry - it's created a generation of half wits who believe everything they read , with out having a go themselves .

Rant over .....

I'll let you in on a secret, there's a generation of half wits every generation.... now can you link me to some info on that xyz and snoozmobile? It's not coming up in my google searches...

Disco Muppet
13th January 2016, 09:27 PM
wow what a resurrection.....5yrs less a week.....is that a record?

I asked if there was an existing one to save starting a new one ;)

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Redback
14th January 2016, 07:04 AM
Pat Ads, that's about it, a good show is all 4 adventure or this one.

Enjoy
https://youtu.be/aThnLbKJYlc

nugge t
14th January 2016, 10:49 AM
Just bought my first PC4x4A mag and DVD...
what a snooze fest!
More ads than anything else, more than 4WDA!
Basically zero driving footage, 'helpful tips' that if you don't know, you're probably mentally incapable of feeding yourself, let alone driving a car.
"had to fix the landy, that was good", the axle dust cap had fallen off.....
Seems there's a decided lack of half decent 4X4 shows...
And don't give me the 'you'd do it too if he asked' crap...no I bloody wouldn't! :twisted:
Better things to do with my time....
$12 wasted :D

Interesting ..... personally I thought the Welford article was a cracker;)

Disco Muppet
14th January 2016, 12:52 PM
I must admit, I have only just delved into the mag as I've been busy with work. It's certainly better than the dvd. I'll make sure I check it out ;)

Sent from my HTC One using AULRO mobile app

The ho har's
14th January 2016, 02:14 PM
Pat Ads, that's about it, a good show is all 4 adventure or this one.

Enjoy
https://youtu.be/aThnLbKJYlc

We just watched the first 2 episodes, looking forward to the rest :)

Mrs hh:angel:

nugge t
14th January 2016, 02:16 PM
no worries. Previous post sounded like you had been through both.


Whilst I have an obvious interest in the Welford article I thought Sam Purcell's 2 part article on the Madigan Line was full of excellent practical information for those willing to take on such a trip.


His 130 carried a huge payload and performed really well. Losing an axle cap might not be a worry in town but it wouldn't be wise to leave it like that in a remote location when you are ploughing through sand all day. Certainly I wouldn't.


Obviously it is impossible to constantly come up with "new" concepts when doing a mag and there are inevitably commercial realities that come into play.


Subscribers come and go and whilst a recovery article might be old hat to some, it is probably news to a certain % of people who buy the mag.


At least Pat's mag is still a mag with ads, not a marketing house flogging cheap garbage through a mag.


Cheers

Redback
14th January 2016, 02:40 PM
I do like Pats mag, it's usually a good read, but I can't handle the show anymore, to many ads and only 10% of the show itself, the Madigan line show Part 1 was really good, but part 2 was terrible, it's like they saved up all the ads for part 2, very disappointed in part 2.

Robmacca
14th January 2016, 04:19 PM
I do like Pats mag, it's usually a good read, but I can't handle the show anymore, to many ads and only 10% of the show itself, the Madigan line show Part 1 was really good, but part 2 was terrible, it's like they saved up all the ads for part 2, very disappointed in part 2.

Baz.....

Sounds like u to sit down and watch a bit of Light Entertainment from this couple:

Part-1: Western Walkabout, episode 1. Useless Loop

Part-2: Western Walkabout; Episode 2: The Gascoyne

The ho har's
14th January 2016, 05:08 PM
Baz.....

Sounds like u to sit down and watch a bit of Light Entertainment from this couple:

Part-1: Western Walkabout, episode 1. Useless Loop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aThnLbKJYlc)

Part-2: Western Walkabout; Episode 2: The Gascoyne (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQzq1M4_J4E)

You obviously didn't see his previous post with that very link. We have now watched them both and have their site in Favourites to look at more of their Videos.

Mrs hh:angel: