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stock
26th October 2008, 05:51 PM
Apologies for the absence but started back at school after 20 odd years and with repairing land rovers and the civil servants job well time is scarce anyway the reason for the post is this,

Well awhile back we fitted a 200tdi def engine to a very clean early 90 collected the cash and we all went on our merry way so last week the gentleman arrived back with a very bad miss in the engine and blowing copious amounts of blue smoke ,no power etc etc.did some of the usual checks firing on all four etc,, all I chould find amiss was the leaking injector pipe took it off to find it was cracked ahh the problem! I thought, borrowed one off another one fitted it but alas everything was the same.
We were very busy that day so I left it and when he returned told him it wasnt ready made my apologies and said I would get it sorted after I finished what I was at .To be honest I was stumped had it broken a set of rings ??? we talked some more and he told me it had started to smoke very heavily, clouds of black smoke so he took it to someone who fixed it but it wasn't the same after ,and what did he do I enquired

" O!he said he readjusted the pump I was told" ,anyway to shorten the story I reset the pump took off the rocker cover to find the rockershaft had loosened two bolts and lost a valve cap . We reset the tappets closed it up and it ran like a mouses heart ,all because they treated the symptoms not the problem.

Stock

mcrover
26th October 2008, 08:47 PM
Seems to be a comon trait amoungst mainly chain type mechaincs shops over here.

Their other favourite thing to do (and dealers are guilty of this as well) is to just throw parts at it until it stops it's bad behaviour.

What has happened to diagnostics skills, they do still teach it (in basic form) over here but it seems like if a computer doesnt tell you whats wrong then thats the diagnostics done and now we will just throw parts at it or like the above treat a sysmtom and hope it goes away.

Thankfully that bloke had the sense to take it back to you to get it sorted properly.:D

Ace
27th October 2008, 10:59 AM
That happens alot, but there are some little engineering issues on some land rovers that alot of mechanics do that. I know a friend with a disco diesel who has had 3 lift pumps replaced in under 2yrs. The mechanic just put it down to **** land rover bits as opposed to looking at what was causing the fitting where the pipe to the fuel filter housing is screwed on. I found out when mine did it the first time that the line from the lift pump is to short and puts undue pressure on the fitting on the lift pump and cracks it making it leak. Had they of replaced the pump and put a longer hose on they would have been right, but instead they just kept replacing the pump.

After he spoke to me he fixed the problem himself and all is good, but it just goes to show that alot of mechanics today just fit new parts without a care in the world for what may have caused the problem in the first place. Matt

Blknight.aus
27th October 2008, 10:00 PM
welcome to my world....

you think its bad when they have to justify the price of the repair...


wait till you work with someone who gets the parts for free and doesn't like the vehicles.