Tyre sizes (Max)

[CheekyD1]

Ok being new I have no idea how large a tyre a standard Rim can handle.

I guess that 10.5" wide would be max width because of the 7" rims

But I am also guessing that everybody would have a different opinion regarding the bigest size that will go under the guards without "Undue Discomfort"

Mainly because we all have diferent "Comfort levels"

I believe 32's fit under 2" lift guards without problems

Do 33" tyres need "Guard Massaging" or do the miss the tin work ???

[Xavie]

I run 33's but it is with a 4 inch lift and a lot of cut out both front and rear. I reckon 33's would rub a lot once your off road.

[Outlaw]

How much do you feel like cutting off your guards??? ;)

[stikman]

Hi Gary,

It all depends on suspension set up and wheel offset. Do we also assume no body lift?

When i got my D1 it had a sagged 2inch lift, and the guards were massaged slightly (only the rear lower couple of inches of the rear guards were 'rolled')to fit 31x10.5x15 on zero offset 15x7 alloys. Closer to standard offset rims appear allow the tyre to tuck up slightly better without guard modification, but can then hit the inside of the arch.

32x9.5x15 Pedes (run closer to 33inch diameter) on 15x7 steel wheels (-33 offset from memory but dont qoute me on this) grabbed the front and rear guards badly and i also had the body lift at that stage. Then 285/75 R16 (slightly under 33x11ish) on flipped disco rims required more cutting again, but again mainly due to the offset of the rim. Then 35x10.5x16 on max off set 16x7 rims required massaging of the rear arch and extended extended bump stops to restrict upward travel.

Hope that helps a little, but probably just more questions and things to consider.

Edit: Sorry, just noticed you specifically asked about a standard rim. Are they the 16x7 steel rims? and are you asking legally or actually?

[CheekyD1]

Are they the 16x7 steel rims? and are you asking legally or actually?

Thanks Philippe

Hmmm Define Legal lol

Lets go for actual first
I am Planing to get some 2" Lift King Springs and was hoping to use the stock steel wheels that came with the car

whilst setting aims I am hoping to fit 33 x 10.5 ProComp Muds
or is this heading for big trouble :eek:

Gary

[stikman]

Thanks Philippe

Hmmm Define Legal lol

Lets go for actual first
I am Planing to get some 2" Lift King Springs and was hoping to use the stock steel wheels that came with the car

whilst setting aims I am hoping to fit 33 x 10.5 ProComp Muds
or is this heading for big trouble :eek:

Gary

The standard steel rims on a disco are 16x7. Each manufacturer of tyre will provide a min, recommended and max rim width for each of their tyres. I cannot see any issues with a 10.5 wide on a 7inch rim (a tyre fitter was willing to put 33x12.5 on a 7inch rim for me although we discussed these as being offroad tyres, 12.5 is really too wide for a 7inch rim though). I think Nath put 255/85 R16 on his disco on standard alloys, these tyre should run at just over 33 and are probably about your 10.5 wide. It turned out that they ended up with an actual diameter of closer to 35 (they were Maxxis Bighorns from memory) and they fitted with only a little guard chopping on the front and rear guard (but he put in a 4inch king spring lift :angel:). He also had to have the bump stops extended to restrict up travel. If you want to get away without too much guard modifications send a PM to Navron and ask what size tyres he fitted as he also has a 2inch King Spring lift and only needed a little camel cut to the rear to fit them on standard offset alloys. From memory these were only about 32 though.

Once again i have rattled on and not really given you any answers. I guess in short the rim will take your desired 10.5 wide but to fit the 33 you will need a bit of grinder work and maybe extended bump stops. A slight body lift may help (pretty straight forward) as will a slightly taller lift (which may then have other mods required).

Hope that helped :D

[stikman]

One more thing :)

With 33s on standard rims you will loose a lot of turning circle and will have to adjust the steering stops to stop the tyre hitting the radius arms (not hard, but a pain loosing your turning circle especially offroad).

[dungarover]

Even with 31's on a Disco you'll have to start trimming but the bigger you go the more you need to trim. You can get 33's on with a 2 inch lift but you'll get guard rub but that's not such a bad thing because at least you know you're suspension is working properly (if you don't get any rub, your springs are too hard, but that's a total different topic for later).

4 Inch lifts require a fair amount of re-engeneering to work properly to castor and trailing arm angles, meaning $$$ but would clear 33's all day long. You can just whack on a 4 inch lift but your castor will be up the pole and the rear trailing arms will be under constant tension flogging out the bushes in record time. Also brake lines will need to be extended as well

I would look a body lift first then go from there. I have a LRA 2 1/2 inch which I had in the Vog (now residing in a old plastering bucket for the dunga if needed). Bonus with a body lift is that you keep all your weight lower to the ground without lifting the whole shebang and raising your centre of gravity, only the body itself and not the engine, gearbox, chassis,etc... The LRA lit is bloody exxy at $680 IICR but it's a well made kit and has complete body bracing on 8 mounts (2 near the engine bay are just std lifting blocks) and completes the job with brackets to raise the bullbar (not lifting the bar to match the body on a Disco looks crap).

Sorry to go off in a tangent but having been there and done that I may be of some help that's all.

Good luck with it.

Trav

[Zakros]

PM to Navron and ask what size tyres he fitted as he also has a 2inch King Spring lift and only needed a little camel cut to the rear to fit them on standard offset alloys. From memory these were only about 32 though.

HI
I am running 265/75R16 Maxxis Bighorns on standard LR alloy rims. I have new 2" lift kits (king springs). Had to adjust the turning circle a bit off standard, Don't worry about the turning circle its not much and you get use to it.
Taken the rear mud flats off as these touched and I had to cut the bottom of the guards about 5cm back and 15cm high to stop the rubbing.


Navron

[mickashay]

you can run 235/85/16 =32x9.5 with a 2 inch lift on standed disco rims and a small amount of trimming in the back of the rear arch,10.5 wide will need trimming all over,unless you go bigger then 2inch lift,i can run 33x10.5x16 simex on my disco rims but have 2inch body lift also,if i run the simex on the 16x8 rims i scrub and as a road tyre i run bfg muddy 265/75/16 on a 16x8 with scrubbing only on full flex,hope that helps some how
cheers mick

[Grimace]

I say wack some 255/85 (bit bigger then a 33 hence my selection of 34") and get happy with the angel grinder :cool::twisted:

[CheekyD1]

I say wack some 255/85 (bit bigger then a 33 hence my selection of 34") and get happy with the angel grinder :cool::twisted:

I am still Laughing "Get Happy"

Question though What Happens after you "Get Happy" with the Jeep when you have finsihed with the Big Hammer or Grinder, you go to the phone and order oversize flares to cover up your Handy Work.
Does Getting Happy involve cutting the side panels of the car ???

[stikman]

I am still Laughing "Get Happy"

Question though What Happens after you "Get Happy" with the Jeep when you have finsihed with the Big Hammer or Grinder, you go to the phone and order oversize flares to cover up your Handy Work.
Does Getting Happy involve cutting the side panels of the car ???

Correct me if i am wrong but yours is a 3 door right? if so it is slightly less complicated as you dont have door skins to contend with on the back. You should not need to take too much body out :D, from memory if you need more then the trailing edges trimmed you can normally follow the lines of the existing guards to open up the whole area. Running standard offset rims you should not need flares if running less then 10.5 wide tyres (to cover the tyres), so it just depends on how good you are with the grinder as to if you will need to cover up any mess :angel:

[harry]

i suppose you could try mine,
then watch me cut yours up.

[dungarover]

I am still Laughing "Get Happy"

Question though What Happens after you "Get Happy" with the Jeep when you have finsihed with the Big Hammer or Grinder, you go to the phone and order oversize flares to cover up your Handy Work.
Does Getting Happy involve cutting the side panels of the car ???

Re-flares. Go to Clark Rubber, for less than $100 you have flares anjd these screw on the outside after you cut (I used tech screws, cost @10 from good 'ol bunnings). These fancy flares from LRA and the like are overated and overpriced and I've done this myself, wouldn't do it again and put my hard earned elsewhere (at $600 a set that is, not cheap).

If you have a 3 door Disco (being an early one and what you paid for it) it's a piece of ****. Just don't open the beer first, do that later to make sure you don't 'overcut' :(

Trav

[Grimace]

I am still Laughing "Get Happy"

Question though What Happens after you "Get Happy" with the Jeep when you have finsihed with the Big Hammer or Grinder, you go to the phone and order oversize flares to cover up your Handy Work.
Does Getting Happy involve cutting the side panels of the car ???

Exactly as Stikman has suggested, I cut along the upper bend of the already pressed out guard flare in the aluminium.

After this you fit the tryes and trim the frotn and rear lower ends of the guards where needed.

Yous is a two door so get happy! I also found beer had no effect on the outcome, but may have a slight effect on safety so do so at your own risk :twisted:

[dungarover]

I find beer helps and you are more aware of what you're doing plus the job looks better as well :twisted: most of my fab work is beer-influenced, you can tell :D:D

Trav

[stikman]

There is a post of a 3dr D1 on 33x12.5 with a 2inch lift and flares.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/849136-post378.html

Thought you might be interested in seeing your car 6mths from now :D

[harry]

nice link phillipe,
i'd say that's the look it's getting - with sliders.
do we have to have a basketball ring back-board sticking out of the roof?

[mickashay]

Re-flares. Go to Clark Rubber, for less than $100 you have flares anjd these screw on the outside after you cut (I used tech screws, cost @10 from good 'ol bunnings). These fancy flares from LRA and the like are overated and overpriced and I've done this myself, wouldn't do it again and put my hard earned elsewhere (at $600 a set that is, not cheap).

If you have a 3 door Disco (being an early one and what you paid for it) it's a piece of ****. Just don't open the beer first, do that later to make sure you don't 'overcut' :(

Trav

was in clarke rubber on the weekend to get some rubber flares and the price is now $37 a metre wish it was only ten but still alot cheaper then lra

[dungarover]

was in clarke rubber on the weekend to get some rubber flares and the price is now $37 a metre wish it was only ten but still alot cheaper then lra

bloody hell they've gone up in price since 06 when I bought mine :eek:

As you said even for less than $200 you're waaay out in front. My LRA flares cost @$600 plus with freight the QLD :mad: you can do a neat job if you're pedantic but I'm a rough bastard :twisted:

Never again I say to the LRA flares, not knocking them quality wise but too dear and not worth $600 plus either IMO.

Trav

[CheekyD1]

Thought you might be interested in seeing your car 6mths from now :D

:eek: WOW I hope mine looks like that in only 6 months. :o

may take a bit longer..