Hi - New Discovery Owner

[JayBee75]

Hi guys just bought a Disco, against the advice of everyone else however I really love these cars.

It is a 2001 series 2 (obviously) V8. 165k 7 Seater sunroof.
I will look at putting direct injection gas on it, however it needs a bit of work to bring it up to standard, or should I say the standard I like my cars.

Unfortunately I have already got issues, which I sort of expected and factored in when I got the car relatively cheap.

I think the Auto is gone, won't change into top and revs high at low speeds with a whine. And she got very hot very quickly so I shut it down before it became an issue or warning lights came on. The overheating could be something and nothing however I think the auto's a different story.

As I intend to do a bit of work on this car, who's the best for spare parts etc?
I am chasing a towbar tounge and ball (Towbar is fitted however without the towing attachment) need a rear bumper cover (cracked).
Also need a new second key, does anyone know where to get these?

That's the major stuff to start with, I am having Range Rov Automotive look over the car, are they any good? Is there anyone else to recommend in eastern subs vic that is also well priced?

Open to any recommendations and advise you may have, as I want to put togther a solid disco, reliable and something that once I have sorted I can start putting lift kits on etc for some light 4WDing.


I am located in Vermont Vic (nunawading area).

Cheers
JB:)

[PeterM]

Welcome along JB. There's also Roverland and All Ranges 4wd in Boronia that are good places. Parts, well it depends what you're after but it pays to shop around and the internet is your friend.

Hopefully the temp issue is something as simple as a thermostat but how long has it been like that?

[big guy]

Parts, try TRS in SA.

best of luck.
My theory is to buy cheap and spend money on it so you know what has been done.

[JayBee75]

Parts, try TRS in SA.

best of luck.
My theory is to buy cheap and spend money on it so you know what has been done.


Yeah that's my theory, well at least it is now!!!:cool:

In a way like you said big guy, I am sort of happy that these things are done up front and I'm not finding out up in the bush.

[waynep]

Range Rov are pretty good - I use them - they have stuffed up a couple of times with minor things but always put it right. I mainly use them because they can supply a free loan car ( if you book one ahead ) which is very convenient. Also used Ritters they are OK too. For big jobs ring around and get quotes.
For regular servicing etc, look also around around the other local ones like Roverland etc, visit each one, take a look at their workshop, have a chat with the owner - you'll soon know which one you want to go with..

[JayBee75]

Peter and Big Guy, thanks for your replies. Obviously new to this forum, and new to Disco's so my knowledge in relation to these vehicles is minimal but I'm learning day by day!

One question are people relatively friendly on this forum? I like to get involved with my cars and would eventually like to get on some trips with people on here if that's the sort of thing that happens.


Have'nt heard back from Range Rov yet, I am hoping the news will be good but my gut tells me not. I have just asked them to go over the car as well as trying to diagnose the obvious problem of transmission and overheating.


I just do not want to end up spending more on the car than what I paid for it. Just out of interest and I am also interested in other forum members thoughts on what you should be paying for a 01 disco 165k. It's not the base model I know that, as it has sunroof, 7 seats, looks like it's got the Hi comp engine (premium fuel only?) plus fog lights in the bottom bumper etc but no leather or woodgrain, it's that silver/gold colour.

A bit more background on the problem, literally drove it 5 mins down the road and she was just under the red on the temp guage, as I said no warning lights, but it was clear that the guage was going to go into the red if I did not turn it off. At the time driving down the road I was more listening to the car and feeling what the auto was doing. It was OK at crawling speed but a little clunky as it sped up. The faster the car got the more the whine became apparent and by approx 50-60km/h she would not change up another gear so was doing approx 3500 rpm. From my reasonably good mechanical knowledge in general (Not discos) the transmission is screwed. Looking under the car there was oil all around the transmission tunnel, which as I said does not look good.

I suppose as you can tell I am excited about the car and want to get all the information good and bad on it. What else should I look for on the car? I was going to get a major service done, eg getting all the fluids changed, plug etc, but is there anything else you guys would recommend doing to ensure the cars reliability?

I'll post again once I know what the issues are and whether to shop around to get them fixed or just get Range Rov to do it.

Any recommendations/suggestions would be appreciated!!!

Thanks guys.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

walk away?;)
There's ALWAYS another---

oh,,


must have been cheap,, to buy one that you knew had a stuffed box,,
would hate to think what a replacement ZF would set you back---


friendly?????

wot?
us?

This site is like life,,
you only get back what you put in.

keep asking questions,
and
keep the updates coming.

[JayBee75]

Ok range Rov called.

his words were "Hope you got it for a Good Price"

Damage is $3800

Transfer case
160k Service
Windscreen
Headgasket & head tested etc
4 Brake Discs
Belt
couple of other minor things

This includes RWC

They seem to think the auto is OK and just needs a service however I have asked them to check it again.

Well I am trying to look at it from a positive perspective, that at least all the stuff is done, and this is the risk when you buy a vehicle cheap knowing that there are issues.
As I said I am trying to remain positive, however looks like the direct injection gas will have to go on hold for now.
This means all up the car with have cost me approx $11,500.

Aside to this I need some advice on the best place to source the following parts I really need.

Towbar tounge (towbar insert)
New Spare Key - Have been quoted $300.

Again guys appreciate any help.

Cheers

[warren9981]

Tow bar tongue should be a standard size. I took the one from my previous non-LR 4wd to use on my D1. Try an auto dismantler for one. The remote for my D1 was about $190.00 from memory, but is different to D2 so $300 could be about right.

[porgey]

I paid $275 for new key fob and clear the error codes on my D2.TD5. So $300 is not rip off Cheers George

[DI5CO]

I use RoverLand on Dorset Rd in Ferntree Gully, have been using Glen there for a few years now & quite happy with his honest approach. Good luck with the "build up" of your disco.

Dave.

[JayBee75]

I use RoverLand on Dorset Rd in Ferntree Gully, have been using Glen there for a few years now & quite happy with his honest approach. Good luck with the "build up" of your disco.

Dave.

Thanks Dave.

Whilst initially I was a little ****ed about it all I am quite excited and looking foward to getting the car back, so I can start to get it the way I want it.

Out of interest what are the most common mods that everyone does to their D2's? Lift?
Duel batteries?

Just looking at the best place to start, I am only wanting to do light 4WDing an just enjoy the vehicle, but ensure that it is reliable and set up correctly.

JB

[BMKal]

The tow bar tongue (assume reece hitch style) should be available at any decent auto parts store - even Supercrap has them.

You need to measure up what height you want, as there is a wide range available. The standard D2 one drops down at least 6" below the square opening - in my case, this is OK for my 6x4 garden trailer - but I also have a straight one for use with my camper trailer which has a much higher hitch.

[DI5CO]

It depends on the 4wding you want to do, but I would start on decent tyres maybe all-terrains, a bull bar & a set of decent recovery points. I suppose a lift depends how far off road you want to go. I have the SLS & would like to get a 2" lift but with smaller kids getting in & out, I would like a set of side/protection steps 1st to make it easier getting in & out & stop them stepping on the plastic strip. Dual battery depends if you go camping etc for fridges & lights & same with snorkel, if you plan to do river crossings etc. Hope this helps, others will have their views!!
Dave.

[dmdigital]

Towbar tongue, should be able to pick up easy enough and Triumph Rover Spares in Adelaide would be a second hand source.

Spare key: $300 is about right if you push a deal they might nock $10 or so off but my replacement cost me over $250 3 years ago. If it includes the cutting then its a good price. Also Range Rov can program the key to the vehicle, which you need to have done. A new key fob comes with a 17 and an 18 character bar code attached and these are entered in to the BCU in the D2

Having gone through the "I need a new ZF, mine's broken" - OK so it had a bloody great hole in the casing :p. A new one is about $12K a refurbished exchange will set you back around $3-4K

[JayBee75]

ok, she needs a new engine.

Two options - Repair the new engine with a rebuild, or I can get a completely new crate engine 4.6 high comp for a few hundred less.

Looking at approx $8500 either way.

What would you do?

[Pedro_The_Swift]

go the 4.6
better power
better torque
better economy

MUST then ensure all cooling parts are on top line.

you have been warned---;):D

[JayBee75]

go the 4.6
better power
better torque
better economy

MUST then ensure all cooling parts are on top line.

you have been warned---;):D


Thanks for your comments Pedro,

4.6 better economy? Really?
Range Rov would be doing the work, I asked about cooling and he indicated it would be fine. They have a handful of New 4.6 motors from LR still in crates, so he can actually do this motor slightly cheaper than getting the existing one rebuilt.


On the other hand I just spoke to AMV and they have a new standard D2 motor available which i assume is complete (waiting to hear back) however I am looking around the $4500 mark, they still need to confirm, however this is much cheaper than everyone else is quoting?

I would need to factor in labour etc ($1k?), but I don't know now whether it's worth spending the possible additional $3k to get the 4.6 motor.

Now I am confused what to do.....



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[dirtdawg]

insure and burn!!!

[Franz]

Ok range Rov called.

his words were "Hope you got it for a Good Price"

Damage is $3800

Transfer case
160k Service
Windscreen
Headgasket & head tested etc
4 Brake Discs
Belt
couple of other minor things

This includes RWC

They seem to think the auto is OK and just needs a service however I have asked them to check it again.

Well I am trying to look at it from a positive perspective, that at least all the stuff is done, and this is the risk when you buy a vehicle cheap knowing that there are issues.
As I said I am trying to remain positive, however looks like the direct injection gas will have to go on hold for now.
This means all up the car with have cost me approx $11,500.

Aside to this I need some advice on the best place to source the following parts I really need.

Towbar tounge (towbar insert)
New Spare Key - Have been quoted $300.

Again guys appreciate any help.

Cheers
A Hayman Reece tounge will fit. These are available at most Autobarns etc. If you want the OEM drop down version you may have to go to LR or check out wreckers.

Cheers,

Franz

[the grange]

Hey JB75 -

Am almost in the same position - have a 99 D2 V8 - need a new engine. Keen to hear how you are going with this, and what you have decided to do. I have to decide soon.

Do you have any new info on the 4.6L engine. And was the AMV 4L motor really new - sounds like a good price?

The Grange

[tempestv8]

My 4.0 V8 slipped a liner and I had to get it rebuilt. I chose Range Rov to do the job. It cost around $8K.

However I am not entirely happy with the result as there is a noisy rocker which Range Rov did not want to fix.

Now it will cost me more money to get that fixed. If only Range Rov would have fixed it, I would have been a truly happy customer. They got 95% of the work done but why not just get it right and a customer will be completely happy? :mad:

I would have been so happy to recommend them, but because of this issue, I'm not sure I want to recommend them.

[JayBee75]

Hey JB75 -

Am almost in the same position - have a 99 D2 V8 - need a new engine. Keen to hear how you are going with this, and what you have decided to do. I have to decide soon.

Do you have any new info on the 4.6L engine. And was the AMV 4L motor really new - sounds like a good price?

The Grange

Hi Grange

Ended up putting the 4.6 motor in, as the cost with range rove was within a couple of hundred dollars of the standard 4.0l

More torque better power, suposedly better fuel economy but will have to wait to see.

Had no choice really, the motor was stuffed bottom end and had been overheated. Luck that the heads were OK and just needed reconditioning.

I got a few quotes from different landrover places and got varying prices, however just be careful as you need to make sure it includes everything as well as clarifying what's actually brand new on the engine, as they swap allot of stuff over from the old one. I had one quote at $4k but turned out that was not including the heads and not including installation which brought it up to $8+ K.

I think overall the 4.6 was approx $8,500and the 4.0L was low $8's. Recondioning the old motor was approx the same price from memory, so really it was a no brainer to put the 4.6 in.

I initially tried to do things the smart way by getting bits here and there, but personally the best thing to do is drive it in get the new motor drive it out.

Range Rov had I think 4 of the 4.6 motors left, they are new crate motors from LD, but they will then put on your old head reconditioned along with alot of other bits. Am I happy with Range Rov? I would give them an 8/10, engine seems strong aned runs well. I certainly have alot more confidence with the car in not letting me down now.

I have had two issues immediately since getting the car back.

I have had to replace the crank sensor which failed the day I got the car back, and now there has been a belt noise which is quite loud, which after looking at it for me on Sat, I have to book the car in this week. Looks like alternator bearings or one of the pulleys. Would have like these issues to be done when they do the motor, but maybe my expectations are too high.

Understand that the new motor will put strain on the old components, and they did replace one of the pulleys when they put the new motor in so they did go over it, and from what I can tell with range Rov they will try to save you money rather than just replaceing everything, which is a good thing, but then may cause issues down the track. Not sure if there is a right or wrong to this situation.

My only suggestion is clearly outline that you want them to go over every component that goes back onto the engine once redone.