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hodgo
30th October 2008, 05:17 PM
I hope the following article is ment to be a joke if not we could be in trouble.

Hodgo


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REPORT ON RETENTION RATES IN THE RAAF.

For general distribution.


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A recent report by the Dept of Defence Inspector General's Office states that allegations of "a culture of widespread bullying and brutality" within Defence are, in the most part, unfounded. The audit team traveled to major Defence establishment across Australia and abroad and interviewed staff from all services and few cases of unfair treatment and bullying within the Army and Navy. However the Air Force told a different story. Complaints came from a total of 3,555 Air Force members. While this statistic is alarming in its own right, it becomes horrific when one considers that each complaint represents a sad story of abuse, mistreatment and neglect. Examples of the some of the more disturbing cases are shown below:
* One young pilot told of having to spend two nights in tented accommodations, despite the fact that there was an empty five-star hotel just one mile away.* Another said that he had been forced to endure a grueling fitness test every year since he joined in 1997.* One airwoman alleged that she had been overlooked for promotion on numerous occasions, simply because she was fat, lazy and stupid.* An aircraft maintenance technician stated he had been refused permission to wear civilian attire to work, despite the fact that his uniform clashed with his eye color.* Another had been forced to wear uncomfortable safety boots for periods of up to eight hours straight.
* A clerk could not understand why she had been sent to work in a Joint military headquarters, "I have been forced to work for horrible Army people who just don't comprehend what the military is all about. I feel the Air Force has victimized me by forcing me to do this...I will be seeking compensation..."* Shockingly, Air Force senior ranks are also subject to mistreatment. One SNCO stated, "I was deeply upset when I was addressed as 'Sergeant' by an officer. He knew my name was Robert. It was just horrible - I have never been more humiliated in my life." A senior officer advised that "the officer in question has been moved on...".
* A number of personnel complained of having to attend courses that were not relevant to their jobs, such as rigorous ground combat courses and drawn-out lectures on occupational health and safety. To add insult to injury, a young corporal was even ordered to pack up chairs in the classroom after one such course.
The huge backlash against treatment of Air Force personnel should provide senior officers with a vital clue with regard to the massive retention problems experienced by the RAAF in recent times

The ho har's
30th October 2008, 05:53 PM
dunno Hodgo....If my work uniform clashed with my eyes I personelly would object to wearing it:p


Mrs ho har:angel:

101RRS
30th October 2008, 06:42 PM
"I have been forced to work for horrible Army people who just don't comprehend what the military is all about. I feel the Air Force has victimized me by forcing me to do this...I will be seeking compensation..."*

Yep happened to me too when I was in the Navy - Army people are strange. I can understand the complaint.

They salute inside, they stomp their feet when saluting, and I found out why they have to go for a run each morning - it was to run off the cream buns at morno's they are forced to stuff down a few hours later.

Garry

tracker
30th October 2008, 06:51 PM
Hasn't changed much. during the late 60s they had trouble with clean sheets.( and the navy just run the ferry to vietnam):wasntme::wasntme::wasntme::wasntme::wasnt me::nazilock:

Bigbjorn
30th October 2008, 06:51 PM
Dave Blknight might be able to give both sides of the story. Dave was a brown job who metamorphosed into a blue orchid. Dave would not look good in pink overalls though.

A WWII digger I once worked with reckoned if he had to go off to another stoush it would be as a blue orchid, as, in his experience they kept office hours and objected strongly to being called out in inclement weather.

Blknight.aus
30th October 2008, 08:34 PM
sadly I do know both sides of the story and in most cases its a case of the person whining needing a serious injection of HTFU.

I may joke about the reason for me joining the RAAF was because I could no longer cut it as a civillian but the sad fact is that in a lot of places idiots who cant make it in the real world wind up here... check out the last ranty post of the book thingy thread of mine for a classic example of one.

the biggest problem is that the new school wants an old school military system run with new school techniques to deliver old school results and it just aint gunna happen.

I also know the base that 2 of those events took place at....


Some of the crap that filters down from WAAAYYY up in the heirachy is mindboggling stupid to the point that I just want to walk into one of their meetings point a finger at some of them and scream at the top of my lungs through a megaphone "your idea is so stupid it could easily be mistaken for one of MD's"

heres some of the classics I've heard/seen

a member on detachement to the army for a trip to the sand pit came back and was told not to wear his uniform in case when he landed a, he might be mistaken for an army member instead of RAAF and if there was any civil unrest when he landed he might be made a target of.

theres only a couple of problems with that....

1. there is no longer ARMY NAVY RAAF we are a tri service organisation we now all wear the same DPCU's with slightly different adornments this is supposed to make it hard to pick one from the other. (more on RAN DPCU's in an alternative rant) when we do good its "The Australian Defence Force" when we do bad its "The Australian Defence force" or now as is more popular amongst the officers who will no longer stand up for their troops "An Australian Defence member"

2. They were arriving on a specially chartered plane Everyone on the plane came from the same place doing the same job, he could have walked off of the plane and onto the concorse wearing a rubber chicken suit proclaiming he worked for the neo nazi KKK islamic prodestant malitia and anyone who was there to see him come off of the plane with all he other members in DPCU would have known that since he came off of that plane he was in fact and ADF member.

the latest idea to help the RAAF keep its "identity" is that our official passport uniforms must have the photo taken while we are in dress blues. The theory being that the little 2x1.5 inch picture of you from the shoulders up in a blue shirt will somehow proove to all and sundry that you are infact a member of the RAAF. never mind the fact that the only people likely to see that particular picture will be the offical members of embasys, airports and and other diplomatic places. They might have already been tipped off to the fact that you are in the RAAF by the Photo Id that you have to show them as part of getting into the place, and the fact that you have the words AIR FORCE on your shirt in letters about an inch high.



The only one that has any merit in the lot that started this thread is the guy who wanted to wear civvies to work... we are permitted to wear (and sometimes encouraged) civvies to work but once at work we must wear the relevent protective dress/uniforms... I could if I really really wanted to be a pain in someones side turn up in civvies put on the blue overalls and work boots do a days work and then get out of the overalls.

tracker
30th October 2008, 09:41 PM
early 1966 and 40 odd(odd?) blokes walk into Singapore airport in civvies the army's idea was no one would know we were diggers en route to svn.
All young all short hair and a bit fit.
Its good to see some things never change.:(

hodgo
30th October 2008, 09:50 PM
early 1966 and 40 odd(odd?) blokes walk into Singapore airport in civvies the army's idea was no one would know we were diggers en route to svn.
All young all short hair and a bit fit.
Its good to see some things never change.:(
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Hi Tracker
Strang, I remenber the same thing on route to SVN with a stop over in Manila. and we all carried army bags What date were you there I did
2nd April 66 till until late may 67.

Hodg

inside
30th October 2008, 09:58 PM
the latest idea to help the RAAF keep its "identity" is that our official passport uniforms must have the photo taken while we are in dress blues.
From a sales and marketing point of view I can see merit in this. The RAAF is a brand like Coca Cola or McDonalds and good brands just don't happen by accident. They take hard work and a lot of effort to build and maintain. A good brand or image attracts talented people and respect from industry peers.

I work in a company of over 50 000 people. Whenever you deal with us you will receive a "branded" response be that via email signature, fax letterhead or personal identification. I'm sure the RAAF is the same, getting you to wear your blues helps to reinforce their image.

DirtyDawg
31st October 2008, 07:54 AM
Put into perspective..its the "Wingnuts" "breal cream boyz" bunch of nancy's(no insult to you Dave) your a grease monkey;).

Phoenix
31st October 2008, 08:52 AM
I was sent that by a bloke who thought it was real. I know people in the RAAF that fit all descriptions there though :lol2:

tracker
31st October 2008, 09:54 AM
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Hi Tracker
Strang, I remenber the same thing on route to SVN with a stop over in Manila. and we all carried army bags What date were you there I did
2nd April 66 till until late may 67.

Hodg
66/67&69/70 with 5 r.a.r.:(

hodgo
31st October 2008, 10:08 AM
66/67&69/70 with 5 r.a.r.:(

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tracker
31st October 2008, 10:29 AM
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