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LROV90
1st November 2008, 07:10 AM
My Bell Auto Services Interface arrived last week!
Very Happy!!!!
Not only does it read fault codes (for which there are many in the Puma!!!), it also has the ability to upload either you standard tune or BAS remapped version.
Pete at BAS has been very helpful and is very quick to respond to emails.
Slowly getting closer to the Td5............................................... ....
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dmdigital
1st November 2008, 07:56 AM
Does it clear fault codes too?
Captain_Rightfoot
1st November 2008, 08:08 AM
Given it's a new vehicle, and it's not an emergency, shouldn't you be taking it to the dealer so that they can clear the fault and take action on whatever is raising it?
dmdigital
1st November 2008, 08:38 AM
Oh silly me, of course:wallbash:
Option 1
Simply drive 1100km - 680km of which is currently corrugated to all hell and will probably be impassible by mid December for several months due to monsoonal rains raising river levels by several metres.
Option 2
Place vehicle on barge at a cost of approximately $3000 and ship to dealer, risking damage in transit.  Then repeat process to bring it back home.
Option 3
Be able to read codes myself and discuss with a dealer over the phone. Subscribe to GTR. Take in to local mechanic if work is required and be able to clear codes if required.
:soapbox:
Owning a Land Rover was so much easier before Land Rover Australia cut out all service agents and reduced the number of dealerships.  Back then I had a service agent in town who had a TestBook system (as it was called then).  But who would think people in remote areas would want a new four wheel drive other than a Toyota? Certainly not the management at Land Rover Australia!
:soapbox:
So in answer to your question:
Given it's a new vehicle, and it's not an emergency, shouldn't you be taking it to the dealer so that they can clear the fault and take action on whatever is raising it?
It would be nice if I could.
Captain_Rightfoot
1st November 2008, 09:04 AM
Oh silly me, of course:wallbash:
Option 1
Simply drive 1100km - 680km of which is currently corrugated to all hell and will probably be impassible by mid December for several months due to monsoonal rains raising river levels by several metres.
Option 2
Place vehicle on barge at a cost of approximately $3000 and ship to dealer, risking damage in transit.  Then repeat process to bring it back home.
Option 3
Be able to read codes myself and discuss with a dealer over the phone. Subscribe to GTR. Take in to local mechanic if work is required and be able to clear codes if required.
:soapbox:
Owning a Land Rover was so much easier before Land Rover Australia cut out all service agents and reduced the number of dealerships.  Back then I had a service agent in town who had a TestBook system (as it was called then).  But who would think people in remote areas would want a new four wheel drive other than a Toyota? Certainly not the management at Land Rover Australia!
:soapbox:
So in answer to your question:
It would be nice if I could.
Actually, my reply was intended for the original poster, who lives in Geelong. That couldn't be more than an hour from a dealer?  :p :D
I take on board people living in remote areas have special needs due to a lack of specialists. :)  That's why I have a nanocom.
dullbird
1st November 2008, 09:14 AM
Oh silly me, of course:wallbash:
Option 1
Simply drive 1100km - 680km of which is currently corrugated to all hell and will probably be impassible by mid December for several months due to monsoonal rains raising river levels by several metres.
Option 2
Place vehicle on barge at a cost of approximately $3000 and ship to dealer, risking damage in transit. Then repeat process to bring it back home.
Option 3
Be able to read codes myself and discuss with a dealer over the phone. Subscribe to GTR. Take in to local mechanic if work is required and be able to clear codes if required.
 
:soapbox:
Owning a Land Rover was so much easier before Land Rover Australia cut out all service agents and reduced the number of dealerships. Back then I had a service agent in town who had a TestBook system (as it was called then). But who would think people in remote areas would want a new four wheel drive other than a Toyota? Certainly not the management at Land Rover Australia!
:soapbox:
So in answer to your question:
 
It would be nice if I could.
 
you had a bad day derek:eek:.......your answer comes accross a tad strong:o
dmdigital
1st November 2008, 09:23 AM
Actually, my reply was intended for the original poster, who lives in Geelong. That couldn't be more than an hour from a dealer?  :p :D
I take on board people living in remote areas have special needs due to a lack of specialists. :)  That's why I have a nanocom.
I wish it was that simple with the Puma.  I have Rovacom for the Td5 but the version for the Puma makes me believe it isn't fully functional as yet.  Nanocom is still not out either for the Puma.  Scangauge doesn't work fully either. The BAS unit may be the only reliable one.
you had a bad day derek:eek:.......your answer comes accross a tad strong:o
Sorry, haven't had my coffee yet!
I actually hope the Land Rover read these comments and finally realise that they need to improve service access to their computer systems if they want to improve sales.
Narangga
1st November 2008, 01:04 PM
I actually hope the Land Rover read these comments and finally realise that they need to improve service access to their computer systems if they want to improve sales.
Do Land Rover sell computer systems? :angel:
LROV90
1st November 2008, 04:23 PM
Yes it clears fault codes too!
My hassle with Landrover is that they normally wouldn't know a fault code if it came out their behind. It then comes down to me saying "oh so it normal that the engine does not start - but what about these fault codes". Sorry about my sarcasm but you all know what I'm talking about.
This Puma engine is also the biggest piece of crap out there!
Captain_Rightfoot
1st November 2008, 05:50 PM
Yes it clears fault codes too!
My hassle with Landrover is that they normally wouldn't know a fault code if it came out their behind. It then comes down to me saying "oh so it normal that the engine does not start - but what about these fault codes". Sorry about my sarcasm but you all know what I'm talking about.
This Puma engine is also the biggest piece of crap out there!
I hope you have an asbestos suit handy :D
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JohnR
1st November 2008, 06:23 PM
I quite like ours, no drama's at all and it just turned 1, maybe it's kama :)
Cheers,
dmdigital
1st November 2008, 06:50 PM
Yes it clears fault codes too!
My hassle with Landrover is that they normally wouldn't know a fault code if it came out their behind. It then comes down to me saying "oh so it normal that the engine does not start - but what about these fault codes". Sorry about my sarcasm but you all know what I'm talking about.
This Puma engine is also the biggest piece of crap out there!
Gee and someone said my comments came across a tad strong:eek:
Thanks for letting me about the ability to clear fault codes. I'm not sure I agree with you about the rest though.
LROV90
2nd November 2008, 08:04 AM
I should probably explain myself a bit better.......
I just think as Defender drivers we got short changed with the upgrade. The new inside is great! The Tcdi Puma however is a weak motor in the Transit and probably too small for the Defender - even Ford / Mazda utes comes with a 3.0lt option. In my opinion the Td5 pulled heavy trailers far better and I found it easier to work on. Also the drivetrain is a problem. To fit the cat down the side of the chassis rail the engineers had to put the motor / gearbox / transfer on an angle which makes it a real pain to cure vibrations when the car is lifted.
I just think Ford gave the guys too shorter leash with new parts to work with - even the vents are out of a Ford Fiesta!
Mine will not be kept when the warranty ends.
This tread has moved on however from my original post which was mainly to say the BAS offer a very good product and the after sales support has been great!
dmdigital
2nd November 2008, 09:20 AM
...even the vents are out of a Ford Fiesta!...
They are also in the RAV4:eek:  I think they must be a stock vent part.
Good to get some feedback on the BAS unit.  I'm really stuck if I get a fault code at present and missed the boat on buying one of these when the Pound was reasonable to the AU$, though its getting better again.
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