View Full Version : 96 disco that just stopped and wont start
bridgo
8th November 2008, 09:17 PM
Just joined, have been viewing the technical forum with interest.
I have a 96 disco that is refusing to start. Have had several eletrical issues over the 8 yrs I've had it, 13 months ago had $1700 bucks fleeced off me, (forum issue on a $5 immobaliser spider cable very interesting, wish I'd found this earlier), part of the fleecing was the fuel injection ECU was checked? On Forum thread advice I also picked up a OCDII reader today, I've read the instructions and dispite all, it still says "failed to link" or something to that effect. Firstly is a 96 Disco, OCDII freindly? I suspect the ECU or something else that thinks is stuffed , multimeter suggests the plug is supplying power etc, I have fuel, and appear to have spark. Replaced the ignition module as followed the manual and got some strange readings from the coil, now seems to make an odd cough every 4th or 5th crank, it's got me stuffed.
Do they (ECU's) just die?:angel:
Where can I go to test the fuel injection ECU and I don't want to pay $500 bucks (included in the fleecing)!:(
Is a scondhand EBay ECU a good option??:confused:
Any suggestions appreciated, it has really let me down this time, even forgave it for the flat top trip home with the kids and the trailer, at least this time it didn't let me out of the driveway!!!:angry:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/09/1339.jpg
mike 90 RR
8th November 2008, 10:40 PM
Just joined, have been viewing the technical forum with interest.
I have a 96 disco that is refusing to start. Have had several eletrical issues over the 8 yrs I've had it, 13 months ago had $1700 bucks fleeced off me, (forum issue on a $5 immobaliser spider cable very interesting, wish I'd found this earlier), part of the fleecing was the fuel injection ECU was checked? On Forum thread advice I also picked up a OCDII reader today, I've read the instructions and dispite all, it still says "failed to link" or something to that effect. Firstly is a 96 Disco, OCDII freindly? I suspect the ECU or something else that thinks is stuffed , multimeter suggests the plug is supplying power etc, I have fuel, and appear to have spark. Replaced the ignition module as followed the manual and got some strange readings from the coil, now seems to make an odd cough every 4th or 5th crank, it's got me stuffed.
Do they (ECU's) just die?:angel:
Where can I go to test the fuel injection ECU and I don't want to pay $500 bucks (included in the fleecing)!:(
Is a scondhand EBay ECU a good option??:confused:
Any suggestions appreciated, it has really let me down this time, even forgave it for the flat top trip home with the kids and the trailer, at least this time it didn't let me out of the driveway!!!:angry:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/09/1339.jpg
Cheap suggestions
Spray some "octane" down the manifold ... Just a slight squirt ... see if it will fire up
Things that are "Octane" are
Circuit board cleaner / Airostart / StartYaBasted /
Basicaly Highly flammable stuff
If it fires up ... but won't run .... Then it's most likley the fuel side of things
Then that will change what you are hunting for
BUT ..... If it doesn't fire up
Try ..... Change the rotor button
Try octane again
No fire??
Remove spark plugs & clean them as you have been flooding the motor
NO Fire??
Firstly .... Borrow a "known ECU that works" and just plug into yours ... If she fires up great .... If yours if shot ....buy a secondhand one .... Gotta be plenty in the market section on this forum
Hope it helps
Mike
:)
harry
8th November 2008, 11:17 PM
ok, you say it doesn't start, but what does it
1 do when cranking?
2 has it got fuel pressure - check this by depressing the schraeder valve on the fuel manifold or the drivers side of the engine near the forwardnend of the plenum. - fuel should sqirt out for some time.
3 is the fuel pump working - do the above then turn the ign on and you should hear the pump in the tank run.
4 disconnect the battery, walk around the car, dring a beer and reconnect the battery - try to start it?
5 if that didn't work, try pulling a plug lead and checking for spark - put an old plug in the end of the lead and ground the plug to the engine, crank it and watch for spark - do this in the dark if possible
5 off to the engine temp sensors - check they work - don't know here, but that fixed my v8 some time ago.
it is very unusual for the ecu to play up and need replacement, usually it is a sensor that fails and confuses the ecu.
bblaze
9th November 2008, 11:10 AM
dont know about the disco, had simular problems with my 89 rangie and it was a common earth on the bottom of the bell housing.
cheers
blaze
bridgo
10th November 2008, 10:42 PM
Thanks for the suggestions.
I have changed my mind about the ECU, it ran poorly for about 15 seconds, so chased fuel. I have fule pump priming noise, lots of pressure, i checked injector plug (just one and it was sending a pulse - not sure if its right put a message was getting there). Checked air bypass value thingy it moves in and out with ignition on and off, Tonight checked plugs and strap that runs from the coil to the bock. Yesterday Found the king HT lead was faulty, thought this was it (thanks to my 9 yr old for leaving the ignition on while I was fidilling with the rotor button), heard a crack at the coil, thing was arking to the positive and negative terminals of the coil?? I though it would only go to negative. Hence why I was checking earth. Have spark to plugs. On cranking quite strong fuel smell (can it flood if one of the sensors I can't check is faulty?) what does the fuel thermister do??
Have done all the Haynes manual, cranks but doesn't start stuff - resistance for primary and secondary coil windings are all wrong, but it did run, still not sure with the arking action ( I feel something is amiss here - but only tells you to check and what is normal, not what to do if it's high)have tried new coil no difference same readings. Already replaced ignition controler. So I'm out of ideas, it's flat bed time!
Even had the old man around, but lost him at multi meter, worth a try.
Bridgo;)
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