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DeeJay
9th November 2008, 10:36 PM
I guess this is real, anybody know better??

( WMV File)

justinc
9th November 2008, 10:43 PM
Errrr, online dating site????:confused::confused::confused:

JC

DeeJay
9th November 2008, 10:48 PM
Fixed it now :D:D:wasntme:

justinc
9th November 2008, 10:50 PM
Whew, I thought I had missed something...:o

JC

paulthepilot_5
9th November 2008, 11:38 PM
HA HA, definitely not real :p

101RRS
9th November 2008, 11:41 PM
HA HA, definitely not real :p

x2 - ditto

Blknight.aus
9th November 2008, 11:49 PM
ordinarily Id say no... but..

having seen some of the moves the guys doing the stunt show at the airshow did and given that plane looks a lot like one of the planes they had out there blending the sky and throwing smoke....

Its got to be feasable and if the pilot was quick witted enough



someone call the mythbusters.

paulthepilot_5
9th November 2008, 11:51 PM
actually to be fair, it probably would be possible, but not on a full scale aircraft level. Most of the high performance 3D style radio control aircraft would be able to pull off such a maneuver, but would take some pretty damn good piloting skills. I actually think this video might be of an RC aircraft, which as been highly edited afterwards.

paulthepilot_5
9th November 2008, 11:55 PM
ordinarily Id say no... but..

having seen some of the moves the guys doing the stunt show at the airshow did and given that plane looks a lot like one of the planes they had out there blending the sky and throwing smoke....

Its got to be feasable and if the pilot was quick witted enough



someone call the mythbusters.

plausible :p

landymad
10th November 2008, 12:11 AM
Hrrrm, at the rate qantas is going they should consider hiring this guy.. it could be useful to have pilots on staff who can land planes with only 1 wing.

Tommy
10th November 2008, 12:12 AM
Fake...it's a radio controlled model superimpose into CGI and real footage. It's flying dynamics are way too unrealistic. Watch when the plane lands...not possible without major damage to undercarriage. Also, the propellors on aircraft piston motors do not stop that fast. The prop usually free wheels for a while.

...thats my view and I'm sticking to it :)

mudmouse
10th November 2008, 12:17 AM
Hmmm. Well 'knife edge flight' is achievable and is frequently done as part of aero displays - thats where the lift required is produced by thrust from the prop and (vertical) lift from the fuselage and tail, but losing a wing in flight creates a massive weight and aerodynamic change. I guess with enough altitude you'd have time to sort yourself out but the flight control(s) balance would be destroyed and i reckon he'd be r**ted. I think if it were 'real' it would have made international news - or maybe not 'cos he survived....

Still, it's fun to watch.

Matt.

cripesamighty
10th November 2008, 02:02 AM
Nope, it's a RC model. Pretty skillful operator though!

On the other hand, I have seen footage of an Israeli F-15 that landed with one wing after colliding with an A-4 during a mock dogfight. The pilot ended up landing at more than twice the normal speed but he held it together. Afterwards the engineers said it was impossible until they crunched the numbers and realised the large fuselage area created enough lift to keep flying if it flew fast enough - hence the crazy landing speed. Also the pilot said he did not realise the extent of the damage or he would have ejected. Sometimes it's better not to know that you can't do the impossible!

Also a pilot flying a Zlin aerobatic aircraft in the late 70's had a wing spar fail in flight and the wing started to fold up. He inverted the plane and held the nose high so the airstream managed to keep the wing pushed back down. He flew back to the airport and at the last moment turned the aircraft right side up and belly landed it. Note that he used to be a test pilot........

clean32
10th November 2008, 02:08 AM
its a fake,

when it lands, have a look at the wing root, wrong construction, there should be 2 spars cranked at this point,

Captain_Rightfoot
10th November 2008, 07:17 AM
I've seen this. It is definitely a model, and definitely feasible (I am/was a competition model aerobatics pilot).

However as a full size.... well maybe it's possible but the key is that from the moment of separation of the wing to the end of the ground roll was 38 seconds. Real aeroplanes have way too much energy to stop that quickly.

BigJon
10th November 2008, 07:48 AM
Looks feasible to me. I have seen footage of an R/C plane do it.

PhilipA
10th November 2008, 08:43 AM
There is a blog which analyses the footage and shows that the landing plane is quite different to the flying plane.
The flying plane has a different paint scheme and a longer engine nacelle.
It apparentlly is a Red Bull teaser advertisement.
Regards Philip A

isuzurover
10th November 2008, 12:22 PM
There is a blog which analyses the footage and shows that the landing plane is quite different to the flying plane.
The flying plane has a different paint scheme and a longer engine nacelle.
It apparentlly is a Red Bull teaser advertisement.
Regards Philip A

Actually it is a "viral" ad campaign by a company called "killathrill" - a german clothing company - trying to use it to sell their adventurewear. The pilot claims to be a redbull airrace pilot (he has his own website where he discussed the "incident"), but he is not, and there is no info on him anywhere apart from his website.

The biggest giveaway, is the plane he claims to fly only exists as one realsize prototype - but HEAPS of RC Models ;)

Bushie
10th November 2008, 05:44 PM
On the other hand, I have seen footage of an Israeli F-15 that landed with one wing after colliding with an A-4 during a mock dogfight. The pilot ended up landing at more than twice the normal speed but he held it together. Afterwards the engineers said it was impossible until they crunched the numbers and realised the large fuselage area created enough lift to keep flying if it flew fast enough - hence the crazy landing speed. Also the pilot said he did not realise the extent of the damage or he would have ejected. Sometimes it's better not to know that you can't do the impossible!



This one ?

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2007-1-6-IsraeilF15MinusWing.wmv

Plenty of videos on this site

Index of /photogallery/Videos (http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos)


Martyn

cripesamighty
10th November 2008, 07:20 PM
Yep, that's the one. I have seen it on Foxtel as well where they talk to the pilot. He was in a two seater and although the backseater outranked him, since he was the pilot he elected to stay with the aircraft after he regained control. The reason he didn't see that the wing was missing was because it was hidden from view by the volume of fuel pouring out!

The Zlin bellylanding I saw in one of my aviation magazines from about 10 yrs ago. I might still have it somewhere.