TD5 with the highest k's!

[Slunnie]

Just wondering who on here had the TD5 with the most km's and if anybody had managed to wear one out yet, or is getting smokey, using oil, needing injectors etc - typical stuff that is normall associated with high km engines. Chatting to Andrew e I was under the impression that neither of us had heard or a worn out TD5 yet.

I'm a little on the lame side with only 137,000km though I'm sure there are some getting around with a few more km's than me.

[Hendrik]

Its interesting, I was just thinking of posting this exact thread, it'll be good to see who has the one with the highest k's.
My disco has 240 000kms on the clock, and apart from overheating it once from a busted heater hose, (fortunatly no damage was done), i have had no trouble with it all. It has had nothing done to it, apart from regular oil and filter changes.
I do have a slight oil leak on the driver's side of the engine, which made a heater hose soft and it was rubbing against an engine mount and this led to it rupturing. Other than that she still runs like new, no loss in power at all, no smoking and no oil use.
I think this engine will go forever, that centrifugal filter technology does make diesels last longer as the oil is filtered better.
You can say im very happy with my Td5, and i think it'll never die.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I'm not going to wear ours out soon with only 48k on it so far. Good idea for a thread.

[justinc]

Hey Simon,

I have Callums engine here on a pallet, it finally packed it in at 350,000+km. And you KNOW how his engine gets driven:twisted: It was still running, but was spewing pure oil out of number 5 exhaust port in the end:eek:. Oh the smoke:o

It has been chipped for about the last 150,000km .

33" tyres, heaps of right foot and lots of caning so I'd say that in standard trim and driven carefully, it would've seen 4 or even 500,000km.

Loked after, and no overheating etc, I'd expect to get half a million out of the bottom end of one of these.

JC

[Bundalene]

Mine 1999 S2 TD5 Disco has 229,000 on the clock - bought it at 50,000kms. This car has done many trips involving tens of thousands of rough corrugated roads. I do all my own maintenance - service every 15,000kms - grease, oil change, fuel, air & 2 oil filters (clean air filter every day or so after dusty road drivivng and replace quite regularly). Change all other oils, brake fluid and OAT every 80,000kms. When I bought the car I installed new good quality suspension (springs, shocks damper and poly-airs - still good)

Mechanically other than pads, discs tyres bent wheels - I replaced all rad hoses and the fan belt at 180,000kms (as a preventative measure) Also, installed greasable unis front tail shaft at around 100,000kms

Faults

Worn spigot bearing end of the clutch replaced about 180,000kms
Temperature sensor housing replaced abour 200,000kms
Viscous coupling replaced 225,000kms
Oil in the wiring - replaced the loom under the rocker cover after oil started leaking out of all sorts of sensors at about 200,000kms
Replaces 1 polyair 220,000kms

Current faults

Slow oil leak between the gearbox and transfer
Indicators for CDL engaged not working
Body starting to crack - along the radiator support and around the drivers door top (chassis seems OK)
Stripped bolt on spare tyre holder.
Air flow sensor - I plugged the car into a scanner for the first time a week ago and cleared 9 faults but now have an airflow issue??? not MAF.

Erich

[justinc]

Mine 1999 S2 TD5 Disco has 229,000 on the clock - bought it at 50,000kms. This car has done many trips involving tens of thousands of rough corrugated roads. I do all my own maintenance - service every 15,000kms - grease, oil change, fuel, air & 2 oil filters (clean air filter every day or so after dusty road drivivng and replace quite regularly). Change all other oils, brake fluid and OAT every 80,000kms. When I bought the car I installed new good quality suspension (springs, shocks damper and poly-airs - still good)

Mechanically other than pads, discs tyres bent wheels - I replaced all rad hoses and the fan belt at 180,000kms (as a preventative measure) Also, installed greasable unis front tail shaft at around 100,000kms

Faults

Worn spigot bearing end of the clutch replaced about 180,000kms
Temperature sensor housing replaced abour 200,000kms
Viscous coupling replaced 225,000kms
Oil in the wiring - replaced the loom under the rocker cover after oil started leaking out of all sorts of sensors at about 200,000kms
Replaces 1 polyair 220,000kms

Current faults

Slow oil leak between the gearbox and transfer
Indicators for CDL engaged not working
Body starting to crack - along the radiator support and around the drivers door top (chassis seems OK)
Stripped bolt on spare tyre holder.
Air flow sensor - I plugged the car into a scanner for the first time a week ago and cleared 9 faults but now have an airflow issue??? not MAF.

Erich

Erich,

Check the plugs for oil contamination again, specifically the MAF and ambient air temp sensor in the airfilter lid .
I cleaned the plugs on one the other day and the MAF codes disappeared. They were dripping with oil, and I know the MAF was OK because I had substituted it to test.

JC

[Redback]

Mine has 190,000+ ks, it's had a hard life:twisted:

Replaced the head, rebuilt the box, broke a CV and axle, rear diff and tailshaft.

In the thread of my overheating problems, there was a guy who reckoned his D2 had 352,000ks after he did his head at 170,000ks, can't remember his name though.

Baz.

[Graeme]

Hey Simon,

I have Callums engine here on a pallet, it finally packed it in at 350,000+km. And you KNOW how his engine gets driven:twisted: It was still running, but was spewing pure oil out of number 5 exhaust port in the end:eek:. Oh the smoke:o

It has been chipped for about the last 150,000km .

33" tyres, heaps of right foot and lots of caning so I'd say that in standard trim and driven carefully, it would've seen 4 or even 500,000km.

Loked after, and no overheating etc, I'd expect to get half a million out of the bottom end of one of these.

JC
That engine also had the head gasket replaced at some time (you probably did the job) but I have no idea if the overheating contributed to the final problem.

[Yorkie]

only bought late last year at 179k so most of the work done by others but full service history done at coopers and davies perfomance for last 80k so happy with that.
since i have had it only done manifold bolt fix, sump gasket and replaced i/c due to hole from stray stone.
hope it lives on for a good few years to come.
cheers
yorkie :)

[Bundalene]

Erich,

Check the plugs for oil contamination again, specifically the MAF and ambient air temp sensor in the airfilter lid .
I cleaned the plugs on one the other day and the MAF codes disappeared. They were dripping with oil, and I know the MAF was OK because I had substituted it to test.

JC

Hi Justin, I have bent the pins in the MAF plug top so they will make positive contact (yes mine is also full of oil). When I get a bit of time I will meter out each pin back to the source. It is possible I have a crook connection at the ECU end of the cable.

I use a "Snap-On" scanner and it indicated 2 different air flow faults in the OBD-11 Diagnistics - "06 Airflow circuit fault" and "34 Air flow circuit fault". The sensor on the side of my airbox appears to be an air pressure sensor - just by a visual check - not an air temperature sensor as in the later Series2 Discos. I only have a spare for the later ones, I was quoted over $600 for this sensor, needless to say I didn't buy one. I also have a spare MAF.

When I get a bit more time I will get to the bottom of this and let you know how I get on.

Thanks, Erich.

[foz.in.oz]

Only had mine since March 2004 but have got to 135,000kms. No problems at all with the enginer just one ECM after trying to convince it that it was a submarine.

Have worn out suspension parts and tore off the odd mudflap, but I am very happy with the motor with no oil loss other than a weep from the rocker cover where I took it off to read the injector codes and still haven't got round to replace it!. Oil, filters and a good grease every 10,000.

Love it

[McDisco]

Got 211,500 km on mine and still going good! Have had the main issues like fuel pressure regulator, oil in harness (replaced), harmonic balancer, idler bearing, studs on manifold, belt etc.

I must say that I am starting to get nervous though...lol :D

Angus

[justinc]

That engine also had the head gasket replaced at some time (you probably did the job) but I have no idea if the overheating contributed to the final problem.

Yup, I did the first head gasket on it at least 5 years ago now. It had sheared the plastic dowels almost in two, and by the time I got the vehicle in, coolant was coming out the exhaust:eek:
Old Callum fairly gives it some stick, I've seen it at max revs a number of times with the BD chip in it, he certainly isn't afraid of sinking the boot into it.

Still, it was going well up until something broke in number 5 cylinder...:o

JC

[Slunnie]

Gday JC,

I didn't realise he'd fixed the engine that badly!

What is yor guess with number 5?

[Zute]

203,000 ks and never had the head off.

[justinc]

Gday JC,

I didn't realise he'd fixed the engine that badly!

What is yor guess with number 5?

Hi Simon,

My guess due to the amount of OIL coming out of the exhaust port, (I haven't pulled the engine apart yet) is a broken ring/ rings. or piston melted. It was running on 4 and a half cylinders, and the smoke:o

I decided at those Km's, that it would be cheaper to fit a low KM complete long engine than pull his down and repair/ reco it. Got one with about 80k on it and just bunged it in.:D

JC

[twigrx7]

Have 256k on the clock....bought it at 238k and the head was done at 238k. obviously previous owner had overlooked the water leak in the head!!:o

Otherwise going ok. Have to replace the wast gate actuator, have replaced the fuel pump at about 255k - how can you tell if it's the original one?
rebuilt starter solenoid, replaced auto air cooler....

[beefy]

hey guys

mine has 254800km.


keith

[130man]

Hi all, my 2000 MY defender 130 has 250440kms. On the engine,only thing replaced is the fuel regulator. No other issues as yet in my ownership. Regular oil and filter changes every 10,000km.PO replaced harness and I had gearbox failure due to loosening of the cooler pipe connections.New front disc rotors a few months ago as the old ones were wearing out. Added second set of shock absorbers at rear to control excessive bounce when fully loaded which is a lot of the time.Excellent vehicle apart from body rattles[ ex Telstra extra cab].Cheers, 130man.

[George130]

Ge so mines getting up the with 298k.

Rebuit head
Included Valve seats, valves checked, all gaskets, new bolts, injectors cleaned and washers replaced. Cam checked. Head cleaned, welded, machined and refinnished.
Oil cooler failed 1 month later so was replaced, Fuel block replaced, radiator replaced, exhaust manifold gasket done twice. Thermostate replaced.
EGR removed at 240k

Vehicle BD chip, intercooler and turbo tweek from very early on.
Gearbox rebuilt twice.

Turbo being rebuilt as we speak as I decided to be safe than sorry not because it had failed.

[John W]

1999 D2 Just 160 k.

Problems to date

Big End new motor 25,000
Front L axle oil seal 50 000
Alternator died 60 000
R & L rear oil seals (thats the whole unit abs sensors etc) 70 000
Air con piping leaking 70 000
Radiator leaking 65 000
Transfer box rear seal 80 000
Engine sundry oil leaks ongoing
Turbo dump problems 80 000
Turbo hoses 80 000
L front panel crack
SLS compressor
Starter motor electric post cracking off
2 airbags
Oil centrifuge stripped bolts and leaking
Fuel pressure regulator leaking
Water hoses
Auto gear box on last legs now

I was expecting it to be good for 400 k will have to see what goes next!

[trev]

O.k. only 170,000,so far in that time,new radiator at about 120,000,fuel regulator,alternator voltage regulator,window regulator and new auto cooling hose, Plus,as a precaution, replacement of front drive shaft with a greaseable unit.
As far as the engine is concerned,I guess only the fuel reg. and a replacement turbo modulator switch is all that was required.
The car has done a fair amount of off-road work in its life and I feel the engine is well designed for that with very smooth power delivery at low revs.
Reg. servicing and proactive inspection of potential problems before they occurr will ensure a long and trouble free life.

Trev.

[trev]

Reading John W`s tale of woe you really have to ask what ever happened to quality control?

[trev]

O.k. only 170,000,so far in that time,new radiator at about 120,000,fuel regulator,alternator voltage regulator,window regulator and new auto cooling hose, Plus,as a precaution, replacement of front drive shaft with a greaseable unit.
As far as the engine is concerned,I guess only the fuel reg. and a replacement turbo modulator switch is all that was required.
The car has done a fair amount of off-road work in its life and I feel the engine is well designed for that with very smooth power delivery at low revs.
Reg. servicing and proactive inspection of potential problems before they occurr will ensure a long and trouble free life.

Trev.

[slug_burner]

2003 TD5 Auto milage

150k at last service 31 Oct
purchased 2nd hand from 1st owner at 127k
Very few dirt miles, of the 127k probably 99% highway. After that about 50% highway and 49% city.

seal between gbox and tc has slight leak.
will need rotors replaced next service

[hiline]

well dare i say :angel:

my 130 TD5 has now done 230,000 k's always been chipped from about 2 weeks old.........

never had any real problems with it other than warp exhaust manifolds
never gets serviced and its get flogged day in day out :ohyes: and i mean flogged
i'm sure some of the guys on here can vouch for that :D

its a true miracle it still go's :D

[Slunnie]

Apart from Cal's :lol2: it's looking like the TD5's are still going the distance though an not wearing out at all.

[Graeme]

Apart from Cal's :lol2: it's looking like the TD5's are still going the distance though an not wearing out at all.
IIRC, Cal's had an unresolved overheating problem for quite a while so it's failure wasn't necessarily confined to the bottom end, if at all.

[justinc]

IIRC, Cal's had an unresolved overheating problem for quite a while so it's failure wasn't necessarily confined to the bottom end, if at all.


Graeme,
I remember all those years ago, he was phoning me from various parts of the country while touring to tell me he had had a water pump, a radiator, a thermostat, a set of hoses etc etc etc and NO ONE had been able to rectify the overheating issues. By the time he got home and I saw the vehicle, as I said coolant was coming out the exhaust. I reckon during that whole trip, it must've overheated a dozen or more times:eek:
It is testament as to how tough these engines can be in their construction. Get rid of the plastic locating dowels issue, and there's almost no stopping them.

JC

[Slunnie]

Graeme,
I remember all those years ago, he was phoning me from various parts of the country while touring to tell me he had had a water pump, a radiator, a thermostat, a set of hoses etc etc etc and NO ONE had been able to rectify the overheating issues. By the time he got home and I saw the vehicle, as I said coolant was coming out the exhaust. I reckon during that whole trip, it must've overheated a dozen or more times:eek:
It is testament as to how tough these engines can be in their construction. Get rid of the plastic locating dowels issue, and there's almost no stopping them.

JC
Ahhh, was that after Hay River? :(

I was under the impression that plastic dowells was part of overheating damage...

[hiline]

Apart from Cal's :lol2: it's looking like the TD5's are still going the distance though an not wearing out at all.

well lets hope it puts the TD5 knockers back in their box :p

[jacknz]

Hi, Just out of curiosity, has any one measured the bores of a stuffed Td5? It would be interesting to see how much wear they typically have after a couple a hundred thousand k's. I know my 1st 200tdi had basically none when I did the head gasket at 150,000, the hone marks were still very visible.

Regards, Jack

[Graeme]

Hi, Just out of curiosity, has any one measured the bores of a stuffed Td5? It would be interesting to see how much wear they typically have after a couple a hundred thousand k's. I know my 1st 200tdi had basically none when I did the head gasket at 150,000, the hone marks were still very visible.

Regards, Jack
Hone marks were still clearly visible on my 4yo 99 TD5 at 170K and so they should have been in any decent engine that doesn't get too abused.

[justinc]

Ahhh, was that after Hay River? :(

I was under the impression that plastic dowells was part of overheating damage...

No, that was WAAAYYY before that trip. The dowels had failed the first time due to overheating, caused I think from a leaking radiator, and the water level got low. This is the cause of the dowel failures mostly, after the engine gets hot for any reason, the head shifts because the locating dowels can't cope, they melt and soften with heat anyway:mad: So then the head gasket fails because the sealing rings are compromised.

Basically, if you get the later Td5's with steel locating dowels hot, then at least they are more forgiving and won't allow the head to then move over enough to start a compression leak into the cooling system.

I'm in the middle of doing a 150k old 2000 model 110 head gsaket replacement, it has gotten hot about a year ago, and recently started using coolant and pressurising the system so much that the expansion bottle was leaking.

I pulled the head to find 1 broken dowel, and one half cut through. Number 3 cylinder had a leak through the fire ring to the water jacket.

All back together tomorrow after a manifold and head skim.:)


JC

[Rosscoe68]

i have done just over 190k now.
heres a snap i had to take on the road recently


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[George130]

I should say that when my head was rebuilt at just over 200000km the bottom end was still like new! We were quite surprised at it's condition.

I have also had a wesh plug fail - Easy fix
Water pump go - easy fix
Transfer rear out put seal - Pain in the bum but 3rd time fixed
almost lost a rear brake caliper:eek: from loose bolts
Broken rear tail shaft
Almost lost the rear tail shaft loose bolts again:angel:
Oil in the ECU once - easy fix. just remove it and clean with contact cleaner till you can get a replacement.
Also had the headlight switch failure.
Starter motor - Went to leave once and found it floating in the engine bay an no bolts:mad:.

Over all its a great machine

[DeeJay]

Reading all the posts, this one takes the record, 390,000 klm. Assuming its the one motor.:D

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[llandro]

Interesting thread, notice no reports of the "stud driving the oil pump" issue.
But the "plastic locating dowels" in the head fascinate me.
Surely they (plastic or steel) are only a locating reference for the cylinder head.
If they have fretted it can only mean the head studs have stretched allowing the head to move laterally and loose gas seal contact with the block. This would surely be exacerbated by having only 12 studs (x diam?) holding 5 cylinders with the studs extending into a hole in the block before the threads engage.
Surely the replacement with steel dowels cant compensate for a "loose cylinder head".
Perhaps that these engines last so long is in spite of themselves. I have contempated a td5, but the more I see about that engine I think the 300tdi will now see me out. (72, probably only 18 short years!)
llandro

[crump]

I should say that when my head was rebuilt we were quite surprised at it's condition.
:eek::eek:may be this should go in the medical section!!:D:wasntme::p:angel:

[Graeme]

...
But the "plastic locating dowels" in the head fascinate me.
Surely they (plastic or steel) are only a locating reference for the cylinder head.
If they have fretted it can only mean the head studs have stretched allowing the head to move laterally and loose gas seal contact with the block. This would surely be exacerbated by having only 12 studs (x diam?) holding 5 cylinders with the studs extending into a hole in the block before the threads engage.
Surely the replacement with steel dowels cant compensate for a "loose cylinder head".
....
My thoughts too, although steel dowels will prevent the head from walking so far that the valves damage the bore that the plastic ones allow. Those bolts are long as they go almost to the bottom of the block and just stretch a bit more than they had during head installation.
If mine ever overheats due to an external problem such as a busted coolant hose, I will re-torque the head as soon as I can to try to prevent a gasket replacement. If it doesn't work, I've lost nothing.

[Slunnie]

Ahh JC... btw, whats the fire ring?

Graeme, you may need to replace the bolts as they're tightened to yeild.

[Bundalene]

We may have a TD5 with the lowest kms - just ticked over 22,000 kms 1996 Defender. Including a run from Sydney to Gove and back!!

Erich

[andrew e]

We may have a TD5 with the lowest kms - just ticked over 22,000 kms 1996 Defender. Including a run from Sydney to Gove and back!!

Erich

thats a very early td5 :p

[Bundalene]

thats a very early td5 :p

. :oops2:Thanks Andy.
That's meant to be a 2006 Defender.

[roverv8]

Bump
Last response to this thread was in 2008.
Mine has done 290,000 & ATM fitting new head, water pump, oil cooler orings/gasket, full hose set.
Doesn't use/burn any oil either between services, "touch wood"
Hoping to get a alot more kms yet...

Must be some TD5's with high kms now surely

[trev]

Just coming up to 330K.Usual things like fuel regs, Slight head gasket leak,Recon head at 300Ks. Number of radiators,never overheated though!,water pump, fuel cooler leak repair, new starter motor some time ago and reco.alternator,all some time ago.
Regularly maintained,Still goes very well,no oil usage except some slight engine leaks next to be seen to.
Some outback trips but no heavy towing and no extreme offroading.

Trev.

[Disco Muppet]

DiscoDB is upwards of 450k on his :) Posts quite regularly.
Bob10 and Yorkie are both in the high 3s.

[350RRC]

Just as a side note to this thread.......... the 350 in my POS has done about 600,000 since its last reco.

Couple of water pumps and starter motors under my stewardship (300,000) and that's it. 100 - 120 a pop each time. On gas 99% of the time.

Full reco been quoted at 3 to 3.5k, but it still doesn't really need it.

TD5's are good to tow with and I'm sure some have done lots of k's.

DL

[DiscoDB]

Bump
Last response to this thread was in 2008.
Mine has done 290,000 & ATM fitting new head, water pump, oil cooler orings/gasket, full hose set.
Doesn't use/burn any oil either between services, "touch wood"
Hoping to get a alot more kms yet...

Must be some TD5's with high kms now surely

You must have been having the same thoughts as myself (but I bumped an older thread on the same topic just yesterday to see if any of the original posters were still going). See topic Td5 Engine Life.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php?p=2225416#post2225416

466k now - still original motor including head and turbo. Replaced the cooling system as a proactive job. Drive train is all original except for clutch/flywheel at 350k, and one wheel bearing hub assembly around 400k or so. Not expecting the gearbox to make it to 500k.

Had all the usual suspects (fuel lines, pump, regulator etc etc).

Really interested though to hear from others who have passed the 500k or even much higher.

Of course I am working on justifying the D3 or 4 upgrade but the more the D2 keeps going and the more I do proactively the more I want to keep it and find out how long it will go.

[Chilly]

About 410,000kms for mine. 1999 Def. Not sure what work it has had done prior to me. I know it had a head gasket.

[4x4 MORE]

Interesting thread..surprised that more people don't have trouble with all the computers in the TD5..:o

[mools]

Interesting thread..surprised that more people don't have trouble with all the computers in the TD5..:o

What all two of them!

Why would that surprise you?

Ian.

[bsperka]

Only 2 computers? A few more than that. ECU, BCU, SLABS on all. Auto has a computer. Airbag has one as well, doesn't It?

[J RAD]

2000 intercooled/chipped 130. Just hit 123456km on the way home today. Never done that before. :). Oil and filter every 5. Fuel filter every 5. Regularly wash air filter. Warmed up and down everyday and never thrashed. Gasket has one little weep on drivers side. That's about it. But shes been sitting for a while so I have replaced problems and perishable parts.... New unis, gearbox mount, new fuel pump/sender, master and slave, earth issues, injector wiring, rear hub seal ect.

Hopefully the loving care I giver her will be repaid. One day.

Happy driving
Jared

[Tombie]

Warming up is hurting it more than just driving.
5k oil changes are wasting oil and burning money and resources.
Fuel filter will go 10k without a problem unless you fuel from a Bunker :)

WHY??? Do people continue to treat these things like a Model T...
Oil is not cheap insurance, proper effective and timely maintenance is cheap insurance.

My D2 (now the sons) has been highly modified since new (MY0.5) is at 150,000km and serviced to oil sampling methodology...
No wasteful unnecessary oil use here.

[mools]

Only 2 computers? A few more than that. ECU, BCU, SLABS on all. Auto has a computer. Airbag has one as well, doesn't It?

ECU and BCU in a td5 defender. Very reliable.

[mools]

Anyway threads about the engine longevity not computer reliability, slabs, abs and baps are not really relevant.

[uninformed]

Warming up is hurting it more than just driving.
5k oil changes are wasting oil and burning money and resources.
Fuel filter will go 10k without a problem unless you fuel from a Bunker :)

WHY??? Do people continue to treat these things like a Model T...
Oil is not cheap insurance, proper effective and timely maintenance is cheap insurance.

My D2 (now the sons) has been highly modified since new (MY0.5) is at 150,000km and serviced to oil sampling methodology...
No wasteful unnecessary oil use here.


So its -3c I should just start up and drive off..... nah thanks I start up, select N in T/case and 2nd in gearbox, let idle for 1 min then drive off going slow up to 60 if possible.....

I do my oil changes at 5k (Tdi). But my reasoning is lots of short trips towing a 2t trailer, other wise I agree with you, especially on a Td5 given its superior filtration. Fuel filter is done at 20k and seems fine so far along with sediementer clean. Air filter at 20k, I dont do much dirt driving

[cols110]

195000 and the only major driveline component which has never been touched is the gearbox.

Engine out twice, the 2nd time due to the donkeys who stuffed up the rebuild the first time around.
New head & almost every other engine component.
Transfer box out twice.
Front diff centre

I have now taken it off daily driver duties as I was spending more time in a hire car with the regular break downs than driving my 110. It has had a very hard life & is now my main off road vehicle, I think it only did around 7000 km last year and it seems to be holding up much better without the daily drive.

[cj5350]

2000 td5 defender 130.... Just clicked over 460,000 .. Previous owner did the head.. Doesn't use oil bsides what it leaks :mad:

[carlosbeldia]

260.000, still going strong....

[Harmost]

2000 model D2 td5
Auto
Basic and pretty much stock, no ace or air suspension to worry about.

311,000k's and counting. Well counting again after I replace the battery that just packed it in. It looks like it was there for at least 5 years though so can't really complain.

* Leaking coolant. Pretty sure refreshing hoses will end that. Considering an EGR blanking at the same time.

* Very minor oil leak from...well somewhere, but can you really trust a disco that doesn't like to mark its territory?

* She had the 'angry sparrows' when I got her so she got replacement universal joints with nipples rather than the optimistic 'sealed for life' factory solution.

* Had oil in the ECU/plugs which took a couple serious scrubbing sessions and is now pretty much a maintenance task I check on when I'm doing an oil change, at least til I bother doing something more permanent about it.

Christened her 'Petra' because you're a little petrified what is going to break next, but she has actually been rather well mannered and with the forums as a guide, easy enough to diagnose and fix/maintain. Knock on wood.

[Tins]

2000 T5 Disco, auto, basic, but chipped and EGR blanked. Coming up on 310K. Had around 230 on it when I got it. Did the head gasket about three weeks after I bought it, was fixed under a 'warranty'.
Has done an alternator, starter motor, fuel pressure reg, warped manifold, and, most recently, an auto.
But, it starts every time, uses NO oil between changes. I've only changed it three times in that time, with the spin on filter each time, but the centrifugal one only once.
One fuel filter as well, but the air filter gets done often. No belts or hoses yet.
I will have to take the head off soon to fix a botched ( by me ) stud repair, so it will get hoses, a radiator and a belt change then. Should I do the harmonic balancer as well? People seem to be saying it's a potential problem.

Great thread, by the way. Thanks for bumping it.

[Tins]

As an aside, when mine did the head gasket, the guys at Ritters said to replace the plastic dowells with plastic dowells, as the service bulletins said to do so.
Glenn from RoverLand, who did the job, said to replace them with steel ones, which he did.

So, a couple of schools for thought. I agree with Llandro ( back in 2008, post #38 ) about the head not being sufficiently clamped if it's walking around. What is the general consensus?

[Tins]

Warming up is hurting it more than just driving.
5k oil changes are wasting oil and burning money and resources.
Fuel filter will go 10k without a problem unless you fuel from a Bunker :)

WHY??? Do people continue to treat these things like a Model T...
Oil is not cheap insurance, proper effective and timely maintenance is cheap insurance.

My D2 (now the sons) has been highly modified since new (MY0.5) is at 150,000km and serviced to oil sampling methodology...
No wasteful unnecessary oil use here.

Couldn't agree more. Modern oils protect at almost any temp, fast warmup thermostats are designed for just that. Modern cars are designed to be driven to warm up, mainly to reduce emissions.
Make sure the warning lights go out and drive off.

Why would you renew the engine oil more often than the manufacturer recommends?
They designed it, after all. In fact, they designed it more than 15 years ago, and oil technology today would be unrecognisable to those guys back then.
Sure, I'd pay attention more often in harsh conditions, but they were considered by the designers as well.

An aside. My 'daily driver' is a 730HP Scania V8 prime mover. Because we carry mainly lighter loads than the truck is rated for,
Scania themselves have extended our service intervals by 10K km. I have done 150K in this truck since April. I know it's not a Land Rover, but the principle is the same.

[bob10]

DiscoDB is upwards of 450k on his :) Posts quite regularly.
Bob10 and Yorkie are both in the high 3s.
384,000 kms, still happy with it. The usual wear & tear maintenance. I've also taken all soundproofing off the engine, & removed it from the bonnet. [ it fell off] trying to make it sound like a defender. [unsuccessfully] Removed the turbo shield ages ago, I like to see what's going on. The only issue I have is the high temperature reached when pushing thru long stretches of soft sand. That could be my driving, though. Over heating is the Achilles heel of TD5 engines, IMO. Bob