92 Rangie - where do I attatch the baby car seat anchor bolt thing to ? help please

[Mrs_Clarkie]

Hi all

Just a quickie

We are off to take a Rangie up to Mildura,
Can someone quickly help , as the dumb ass mechanic from Mobil who usually checks the baby seat in the back of my car has no idea on where it should go.

Do I get either a 300 or 600 extension strap and place it from the bolt in the roof , or is it just a case of removing one of the plastic bits from the floor section in the rear / boot of the car & attaching the car set from there that way

Help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks guys :)

[Scouse]

Does your Range Rover have 3 plugs along the back edge of the roof lining?
Hopefully it does as these are the restraint points.

I use an adjustable joining strap in my RR but the 600mm one will be too long. The 300mm strap will be fine.

[F4Phantom]

My RR did not have any in the roof as in 1987 RR was brought in as a commercial vehicle. If yours are not behind the roof lining near the speakers you can do what I did and install a plate. I did it myself in a few hrs, cost $30. Put a sandwich of 2x steel bars under and over the rear floor, put 3x holes and weld some nuts under the floor or just drill a hole and put loose nuts with split washers under. This system is as strong as any system engineers put in. In fact after a certified engineer told me what he was going to do I am convinced my system is stronger.

[geek2live]

My RR did not have any in the roof as in 1987 RR was brought in as a commercial vehicle. If yours are not behind the roof lining near the speakers you can do what I did and install a plate. I did it myself in a few hrs, cost $30. Put a sandwich of 2x steel bars under and over the rear floor, put 3x holes and weld some nuts under the floor or just drill a hole and put loose nuts with split washers under. This system is as strong as any system engineers put in. In fact after a certified engineer told me what he was going to do I am convinced my system is stronger.

Hi,

I need to do this in my '84 rangie. Any chance of seeing a diagram or some photos to get a clearer picture of what you did in yours?

Cheers, Josh

[F4Phantom]

Hi,

I need to do this in my '84 rangie. Any chance of seeing a diagram or some photos to get a clearer picture of what you did in yours?

Cheers, Josh


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/11/354.jpg (http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii258/f4phantomm/?action=view&current=carseatbolts.flv)

Here is two panels, the bottom panel is thick and the top is not really needed but I like to oversize points like these so I put a thin top in. A total of 4 bolts sandwich them together. Then some high tensile bolts hold in the car seat attachments.

You will also see a photo of a strap on the back of the seat. I am doing this because it was mentioned by I think loanrangie that some kids were once killed when the RR seats collapsed, not hard to imagine as the latches are useless. Now I am attaching the top of the seats (both parts) via a seat belt strap to the car seat bolts to stop this problem.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/11/355.jpg

[RoryRangie]

Hi, I found this thread, and I hope someone can help me out.

I am about to take proud delivery of a Range Rover Sport, I would like to know where the baby seat anchor points are for this? so when I do the car switch (trade in) I am prepared with the correct length straps. etc...

any help would be greatly appreciated.....:D

[Lotz-A-Landies]

My RR did not have any in the roof as in 1987 RR was brought in as a commercial vehicle. If yours are not behind the roof lining near the speakers you can do what I did and install a plate. I did it myself in a few hrs, cost $30. Put a sandwich of 2x steel bars under and over the rear floor, put 3x holes and weld some nuts under the floor or just drill a hole and put loose nuts with split washers under. This system is as strong as any system engineers put in. In fact after a certified engineer told me what he was going to do I am convinced my system is stronger.Just be a little careful with any of these modified designs.

Firstly a member of the RR Club of NSW had 2 children die when restrained in an after market adaption to their 1987 RRc (when they were new). The restraints were affixed to the floor in the rear cargo area and during a crash and roll over event the catches for the seats failed and the children became un-restrained causing fatal injuries. The seat catches are not designed to hold the weight of even a small child's body.

Secondly, if you look under the car at the rear floor in most RRC's you will see that the floor is aluminium and only pop riveted in place, the original rear seat belt anchorages actually have an additional tie under the floor down to the chassis.

The preferable method of anchorage is to fit one of the anchorage bars that are designed to tie between the "C" pillars on both sides of the vehicle. You get them from authorised seat belt fitting stations.

Diana

[GuyG]

I've got one which bolts to the inner rear wheel arches, not fitted to my car as I currently have draws and don't have kids. Hopefully the attached pics work - this was fitted by an authorised seat mob to the car in question.

The supplier is: Littles Child Restraints 02 9831 7110

[frantic]

For the bloke in the new RR sport you lucky bugger! The attachments are in the seat back like the D3, I think, just ring your dealer and double check.

I had an old 81 2 door rr which i retro fitted a bolt ( not strictly legal but a lot cheaper than custom design) to the floor for the middle seat to take a baby seat/ capsule, and I used the main anchor bolt and a 10cm square off 8mm plate underneath the car with 2 further bolts to secure it in place ( 3 carefully measured and placed drill holes and a lot off selastic to stop/ reduce the electrolisis/rust/ water entry) the plate will spread the load that is placed on the bolt in a sudden impact and stop the blot from ripping through the floor.
But make sure you use some locktite on the nuts under the car as the vibration from the 3.5 seems to be in harmony with slowly unscrewing nuts from bolts:D

[CountryHonk]

Hi - searching for child restraint solution I viewed some photos you posted of your RR cargo area ... noticed the water tank which looked to be moulded over the wheel arch. Can I ask where you got it or if you know of any similar products?

Cheers
Matt

[Dougal]

Just be a little careful with any of these modified designs.

Firstly a member of the RR Club of NSW had 2 children die when restrained in an after market adaption to their 1987 RRc (when they were new). The restraints were affixed to the floor in the rear cargo area and during a crash and roll over event the catches for the seats failed and the children became un-restrained causing fatal injuries. The seat catches are not designed to hold the weight of even a small child's body.

Secondly, if you look under the car at the rear floor in most RRC's you will see that the floor is aluminium and only pop riveted in place, the original rear seat belt anchorages actually have an additional tie under the floor down to the chassis.

The preferable method of anchorage is to fit one of the anchorage bars that are designed to tie between the "C" pillars on both sides of the vehicle. You get them from authorised seat belt fitting stations.

Diana

That's an awful thing to happen.

I've got a similar situation with car seats in my two RRC's. I am a professional engineer and I've looked at many options. Including designing and retrofitting ISOfix mounts through the floor to the seat-belt mounting points on the chassis.

Firstly never attach a strap up over the back of the seat and to the floor. All this will do is fold the seat downwards/forwards in a frontal collision.

In the end I'm buying car seats which work with the belts in my vehicles. I currently have an american designed car seat and it's a complete piece of crap.
Of four vehicles I have (three euro, one Japanese) it fits properly in none of them.

For capsules I used a european designed capsule and mounting base. The base locks into the seatbelt with a clamp and has a forward leg which props off the floor.
These are very secure.

For seats I have ordered a Recaro. These have a similar clamp system to the capsule mentioned above so the seat-belt can be winched tight and clamped to not move.
For younger children the seat belt passes through the seat and the child has their own harness.
For older children (booster seat arrangement) the seat belt passes over the seat and the child.

I realise the Au car seat regulations are different. I am not in Australia.
I can see absolutely no benefit and indeed several dangers from tethering. Especially when done incorrectly.

It has been suggested that the only purpose of these tethers is to prevent an empty infants seat without seat-belt fastened from becoming a projectile. I beleive those making heavy duty tether mounts are misguided. You need to ensure the seat and child is secured through the main seat-belt.