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p38arover
15th November 2008, 08:33 PM
Gaaahhhh!


My wife wanted a new Nokia N95 phone. She is currently with 3 on a very good legacy plan (they don't sell it any more). She went to 3 but they said they didn't sell the phone outright. Besides we want a Next G compatible phone for our WA trip and 3 won't be roaming to the Telstra Next G network until late next year.

The guy at 3 said, buy it outright from Telstra - we can't beat their price.

So we did. I've noticed that it only ever seemed to roam, it didn't seem to connect to 3, nor did it seem to be running on a 3G network. So I tried switching off GSM and leaving UMTS only activated. Sure enough, no service - it's roaming only to a GSM network (dunno whose).

A bit of hunting the 'Net around this arvo revealed all. The Telstra Next G N95 is 850MHz only. 3's network is on 2100MHz. We should have waited until next year and bought the new 3 N95 which will operate on 3's 2100MHz 3G network and Telstra's 850MHz Next G network.

To make it worse, I was gunna unlock and debrand Elisabeth's 3-branded Nokia 6280 and use it for myself. Yoiu can't. It's one of Nokia's few phones that can't have a software update using Nokia's Software Updater. At least it has been unlocked.

Gaaaahhhh

If you want a brand new unlocked but Telstra-branded N95 on the Next G network, maybe we can do a deal. It's only a few days old.

abaddonxi
15th November 2008, 08:53 PM
You'd almost think that this belongs in, My ability to buy faulty goods...

You can't take it back?

Simon

p38arover
15th November 2008, 09:13 PM
Extremely unlikely.

My daughter bought a phone from Optus and went back the same day and they wouldn't take it back despite there being no Optus coverage at our house even though Optus claim there is.

Disco_owner
15th November 2008, 09:22 PM
Hi Ron;
I bought a Nokia N-95 on Telstra Next-G staff plan on a 24 month contract and didn't like the phone and heard from a few people they had issues so I took it back the same day and they ( Telstra T-shop ) cancelled the contract.

Captain_Rightfoot
15th November 2008, 10:53 PM
Extremely unlikely.

My daughter bought a phone from Optus and went back the same day and they wouldn't take it back despite there being no Optus coverage at our house even though Optus claim there is.

If she was new to Optus she could have returned it to them no questions asked within the first month under their coverage guarantee. That's one to know for next time.

p38arover
16th November 2008, 05:08 AM
If she was new to Optus she could have returned it to them no questions asked within the first month under their coverage guarantee. That's one to know for next time.

Good to know. Obviously the owner/manager of the Optus-branded store didn't.

p38arover
17th November 2008, 07:55 PM
Elisabeth returned it today and was given a refund. It was sold to us with them knowing we wanted it for a 3 service.

Now we are on the hunt for a new 850/2100MHz UMTS phone.

We wonder if the iPhone will do the job.

abaddonxi
17th November 2008, 08:01 PM
GSMArena.com - GSM phone reviews, news, opinions, votes, manuals and more... (http://www.gsmarena.com/)

Spec's for everything.

And the advanced search is excellent.

Simon.

Captain_Rightfoot
17th November 2008, 08:07 PM
Elisabeth returned it today and was given a refund. It was sold to us with them knowing we wanted it for a 3 service.

Now we are on the hunt for a new 850/2100MHz UMTS phone.

We wonder if the iPhone will do the job.

Huh? You're thinking about an iphone? They are a sensational device, but unless you're going to use them for web stuff they are a waste. Also they only work like the ads on Telstra. :o

p38arover
17th November 2008, 09:19 PM
Not for me. I couldn't care less about a phone. I make only about 1 call a week. I don't use the camera, nor the media player, nor the...... etc.

My missus wants a new one but with a better camera than the iPhone. She needs good roaming and we'd like Next G for travel within Oz. So we need 850Mhz (Next G) and 2100MHz (3 and lots of the rest of the world) capability.

I'm not sure what you mean "Also they only work like the ads on Telstra. :o"

I must admit, I've never seen an advert for the iPhone. I tried the iPhone and it seems very easy to use and read. I find most modern mobile phones difficult to use as I can't read the keys for SMS or data entry, etc. I find my old (large) touch screen PDA phone with Windows Mobile much easier to use than the N95 or my son's N70 - and it integrates seamlessly with MS Outlook. The biggest disadvantage with the PDA phone is that it is GSM only so coverage isn't great in remote areas.

Captain_Rightfoot
17th November 2008, 09:44 PM
Here is the advertisement (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=46AjmGQqvm4).

My iphone on optus was just astonishingly bad. To fit all the stuff in that they did in the ad it would take 30 minutes and a lot of swearing.

I switched the same handset to telstra and it worked just like in the ad.

My wife despite being a IT worker gets frustrated with phones and the likes. She just picks up the iphone and can use pretty much all of the functionality on it.

p38arover
17th November 2008, 10:20 PM
I've told my wife that unless she's using the features, any of these phones are overkill.

I've been loaned a tiny candy bar NextG phone for our trip to WA next year so I'm right. It has more features than I'll ever use.

I just prefer to not make phone calls from a mobile - it costs too much. A recent 5 minute mobile phone call in across town cost me more than a 30 minute fixed line call to the USA. That is patently ridiculous.

I really don't know how any private individual could afford to surf the net and send email, etc. The rates for data are appalling. I saw one plan on Telstra that was effectively $1 per Mb.

Captain_Rightfoot
17th November 2008, 10:31 PM
I've told my wife that unless she's using the features, any of these phones are overkill.

I've been loaned a tiny candy bar NextG phone for our trip to WA next year so I'm right. It has more features than I'll ever use.

I just prefer to not make phone calls from a mobile - it costs too much. A recent 5 minute mobile phone call in across town cost me more than a 30 minute fixed line call to the USA. That is patently ridiculous.

I really don't know how any private individual could afford to surf the net and send email, etc. The rates for data are appalling. I saw one plan on Telstra that was effectively $1 per Mb.
It costs me $20 a month for the phone. That includes no calls but calls to Telstra mobiles or any fixed line is 30c untimed. Non Telstra mobiles are about 30c a minute. Not cheap but not over the top either. On balance I'd rather not have $25 worth of included calls that cost $1 a minute. I'd rather just pay a reasonable amount for what I actually use.

I also have a $30 data pack which gives you 300mb. It is enough for me. I hope the novelty wears off I and I can go back to the $10 150 mb plan.

I agree with what you're saying. If you get these phones unless you're going to get data on them and enjoy them for what they do then it's a waste. I've met two people so far who have Iphones with disabled data. They bought them just to be trendy. That's like having a defender and never leaving the city.