Engine Saver Low Coolant Sensor/Head Temperature Alarm

[Davy]

Hi all.

Seeing as I have let the cat out of the bag after Pat 303's interesting thread on the technical forum last night.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/67582-engine-overtemp-alarm.html

I want to ask if there is sufficient level of interest in the combined Engine Saver/ Tm-2 units for us to begin assembling and marketing them here.
We have been working on this new addition to our product line up for some time now.
The 2 units are neatly combined in the one housing and are really easy to fit.

Haydn (Our Uk agent and supplier of the new screw in sensors is already marketing them in europe)

Haydn Coolant Alarms - Low Coolant Alarm/TM-2 Combined (Powered by CubeCart) (http://www.coolantalarm.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=39)

If the interest is there I am sure we can produce them at a very competitive price.

Davy

[Outlaw]

Sounds like a plan ;)

[scarry]

Is the low coolant alarm audible?

Also,where would it fit on D2 dash,as it is pretty cluttered already?
I think the engine saver will fit where the ashtray is,but i dont think it reads temperature.

[Davy]

Both units share the internal buzzer in the TM-2 case.
So both have audible and visual alarms as well as the digital temparature read out

Davy

[olbod]

I already have the low coolant alarm and I would certainly add the
engine temp alarm to it if it became available.
Count me in.

[matbor]

Could be interesting ;)

[ariddell]

Would potentially be interested in one (or possibly even 2) too, price would need to be right though, 132.00UK doesn't convert very well at the moment even taking into account how much it could save in terms of costs of repairing engine damage.

[leeds]

Had an Engine Watchdog fitted for 200A$ (IIRC). It paid for itself when got a small hole in top of rad from a bolt touching it. Watchdog was barking away like mad, normal LR temp gauge not really moved and not a serious loss of coolant.

Saved a head gasket job so was well worth the money. Will be interested to see how it responds to UK winter temperatures.

Regards

Brendan

[malleefowl]

I'd be a prospective puchaser if price was reasonable.
Cheers,
Mary

[Davy]

Would potentially be interested in one (or possibly even 2) too, price would need to be right though, 132.00UK doesn't convert very well at the moment even taking into account how much it could save in terms of costs of repairing engine damage.

If I do put this project to market, the price will be no where near 132 pounds ($310)

We will put it to market for the lowest price we can if sufficient demand is there for it.

They have been using them in the UK for years so no problems with low temperature operation.

[Jock The Rock]

Gday Davy

I just got an engine saver. :(

Will you be selling them seperately or will I need to buy a set?

Thanks

[Davy]

Hi Jock

If we go ahead with this one it will be a completely new unit with the minature Engine Saver module built into the TM-2 case, same as I supply Haydn in the UK

That said, we will probably be able to supply the TM-2 unit at a good Aulro price as a stand alone product to previous Engine Saver customers

Davy

[PAT303]

Davy I've just about decided that the TM-2 is what I want.I read your posts about reading cylinder head temp instead of thermostat cover temp and agree that is the best option.It is a good fit in the dash of D1's going by the photo's posted up. Pat

[scarry]

Any pics on where it fits on a D2 dash?
I Should get one of these.

[Bytemrk]

Definitely interested...

[PAT303]

Any pics on where it fits on a D2 dash?
I Should get one of these.

Read my other thread,I've had my warning. Pat

[Chucaro]

I am interested in the combined Engine Saver/ Tm-2 units fro my Defender Tdi300

[Davy]

At last, I have a small quantity of the integrated units available.

PM me for the special Aulro price. (Regular price $ 280)


Davy

[Chucaro]

Thanks Davy for the rapid delivery the 2 units arrived well and look very neat.
Cheers

[Bushwanderer]

Hi Davy,
Would these be suitable for a D3?

Best Wishes,
Peter

[SteelNerve]

Yep, very interested. Let me know the AULRO price and if they are that good I may have 2 more people want them too.

[long stroke]

Yep, very interested. Let me know the AULRO price and if they are that good I may have 2 more people want them too.

x2 very interested in one for a 200tdi d1:)

TIM.

[Chucaro]

The only bad point with the TM-2 case is that there are not provisions on the unit to hold it on the dash. They should provide a braket to be able to fit the unit neat on a dash or some spot where can be seen by the driver.
I would love to fit it on the Mud dash in my Defe but I cannot see whow I can do a neat job.

[Davy]

The Temperature monitor part definitely will fit a D3

I am not sure if the D3 has anywhere to fit one of our screw in sensors for the Low Coolant alarm.

Can anyone help with info here?

( We have just found out our V8 sensor fits the transit engined defender thanks to info supplied by PCB Land Rovers)

Otherwise an in line sensor should do the job.

Davy

[Psimpson7]

Hi Davy,

Mine has arrived safely for the TD5.

Thanks again.

Rgds
Pete

[Psimpson7]

And is now all fitted and working.:) please excuse the dust.....

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/416.jpg

[stikman]

Hi Davy,

Interested in a unit, can you please PM me a price (3.5 D1 if it makes a difference).

[omvanders]

The only bad point with the TM-2 case is that there are not provisions on the unit to hold it on the dash

Good quality double sided velcro works a treat.

[Chucaro]

Good quality double sided velcro works a treat.

That was my first approach ;) but the tape or velcro does not like the surface :(

[Davy]

Hot melt glue or silicone works well & can easily be removed.

Best to clean armoural off first though.

Davy.

[Rosscoe68]

i think i need one of these as well
did i read correctly that they will alarm on oil pressure loss as well ?

[Davy]

The TM-2 has an optional provision to alarm on Low oil pressure.

This is normally disabled on our kits as when the ignition is turned on
the alarm sounds immediately due to having no oil pressure.
This masks the Enginesavers test beep and can be quite annoying.

The provision is still there though and If you want it just let me know when you order a kit.

Davy

[Chucaro]

The TM-2 has an optional provision to alarm on Low oil pressure.

This is normally disabled on our kits as when the ignition is turned on
the alarm sounds immediately due to having no oil pressure.
This masks the Enginesavers test beep and can be quite annoying.

The provision is still there though and If you want it just let me know when you order a kit.

Davy

I am going to fit a VDO pressure gauge on the Defe but I just wonder how hard will be to have a delay switch in the system to avoid the alarm coming on ?

[Davy]

You need to ask TM-2 about that one.

Davy

[long stroke]

I just bought a $160 dollar one:)

[Davy]

I am going to fit a VDO pressure gauge on the Defe but I just wonder how hard will be to have a delay switch in the system to avoid the alarm coming on ?

Most oil alarm switches come on just above idling pressure which isn't very much.

Put a 5 second delay on that & your engine could be damaged at Highway speeds.

Murphy gauges make a mechanical adjustable alarm, but it is normally set at just above idle pressure, which isn't a lot of good at running speed.

An oil alarm needs 2 settings.
Idle pressure, and cruising pressure with a sensor to tell the difference.

I don't know if anyone makes such a device, but there is a market there
for a bright lad.

The other alternative is to fit a gauge and hope you spot the drop if it happens.

Looking on the bright side, most oil pressure problems happens right after a service when the apprentice didn't screw the filter on tight enough or when he didn't tighten the sump plug up tight enough.

The other one is when the oil cooler develops a leak into the cooling system.
In this case the low coolant alarm will pick it up straight away as soon as the oil emulsion surrounds the probe.
( Happened to me last year on a commercial vessel)

The Engine Saver went off well before the motor got hot or all the oil pumped into the cooling system.


Davy

[landroverwa]

Dear Davy,
Thanks for prompt service - combo unit ordered ex Qld Tues arvo and delivered in Pilbara WA Thurs morning. Compact display module will fit "somewhere" on 2008 Defender dash! Appreciate full kit right down to cable ties and detailed instructions for installation.
Regards,
landroverwa

[Jock The Rock]

Thanks mate got mine yesterday as well

[Rosscoe68]

got mine friday, fitted today. got the oil light warning alarm fitted up. i had an idea about the alarm on start up. hows this sound ?
if you run a relay off the alternator that only allows the signal from the oil pressure swithc to go to tm2 when the alterator starts charging, that will stop the alarm going off when ignition is on but engine is not running. hows my logic sound before i go start running more wires all over the engine bay

[Jock The Rock]

Anyone looking for a place to mount their Engine Saver this is where I put mine

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/02/1141.jpg

Also this is my TM-2 in place, as well as EGT

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/02/567.jpg

[Davy]

Hi All.

We have a new, small batch of Engine Saver/ Tm-2 combo units ready now the floods have gone and we are back to normal.

Anyone interested, PM me for special Aulro price (Normal retail $295)

Davy

(Also, Straight TM-2 are available from us.)

[green_disco]

Hi Davy,

Combo unit arrived yesterday. Many thanks for the quick service.

Cheers,
Jeff

[Davy]

Hi All

We have another small batch of the combined low coolant alarm/temperature alarm kits with digital readout available again.
Also straight TM-2's are available from us.
Coolant sensors are available for all models, one shown in picture is for the Td5
Aulro discount still applies, PM me if interested.

Davy

[Davy]

Just an up-date...

We also have our own from the ground up Engine Saver combined temperature and low coolant alarm which is really simple to use and has audible & visual alarms.
They have been in service for 18 months now and have proved themselves on a wide range of vehicles although the first one was installed & tested by a forum member here on a td5. They are quite small and don't take up much real estate on the dash board.
Naturally Aulro discount applies to members.

Link: Engine Saver ESTC Page (http://www.enginesaver.com.au/ESTC.htm)

[LandyAndy]

I have just fitted one of these EngineSaver combined Temp and low coolant alarms and fitted it to the Defender.
Was so Impressed with it I have decided to fit one to the D2,also got one for a road roller at work that the boys have cooked.$15000 DAMAGE!!!!!
Andrew

[Scott S]

Hi Davy,

I am new to the site and have an 02 Defender, any chance you have any of the combined temp/low coolant alarms with the digital readout left?

Cheers Scott

[Davie]

Hi davy, unit arrived this morning,fitted and all good. Many thanks for the prompt service and thanks for the pen.
Cheers.

[Fluids]

Hi Davy. Thanks for the spare LED bezel & warning sticker ! Very much appreciated.

All installed and works like a champ!

Thanks :)

[Davy]

Hi all

Have TM-2 combos in stock again for those who have been asking for them.

Davy

[Ace]

Hi all

Have TM-2 combos in stock again for those who have been asking for them.

Davy

Hi Davy, what am i looking, cost wise, for the low coolant alarm/digital read out unit in one for a 300Tdi Disco?

Once I get stacey's Pajero sorted and the bank account has recovered i really want to get one installed on the disco as having one fitted 2 years ago would have saved me 6 grand not having to replace the engine after it slowly leaked coolant from the heater core.

Matt

[landcol]

i am also very interested could you please get back to me with a price'thanks heaps sounds like a must have for the td5 and before crissy!

[adonuff]

Hi Dave I have one of your engine saver's and very happy with it. How about something simular to monitor engine oil pressure, temp. I have been looking at Murpy gauges and will proberly get one but if you could come up with a unit like the engine saver I think you would sell plenty of them?

[Davy]

Hi Dave I have one of your engine saver's and very happy with it. How about something simular to monitor engine oil pressure, temp. I have been looking at Murpy gauges and will proberly get one but if you could come up with a unit like the engine saver I think you would sell plenty of them?

Funny you should ask that...
I just made a simple monitor for the love of my life, (2000 Ducati 748 Superbike)
It uses a pair of adjustable oil pressure switches linked to hi -intensity led's for idle pressure & running pressure notifications.
Has a fixed temperature alarm led to remind me to switch the fan overide switch on at 82 degrees in traffic and of course a low coolant led.
The idle pressure switch is set 5psi below hot idle pressure (35psi) & the running pressure switch is set 10 psi below normal run pressure (70psi)
I used all led's so I don't need to scan gauges when riding.
My baby is fully protected now. :)
Is that the sort of thing you have in mind?

Davy

[adonuff]

Funny you should ask that...
I just made a simple monitor for the love of my life, (2000 Ducati 748 Superbike)
It uses a pair of adjustable oil pressure switches linked to hi -intensity led's for idle pressure & running pressure notifications.
Has a fixed temperature alarm led to remind me to switch the fan overide switch on at 82 degrees in traffic and of course a low coolant led.
The idle pressure switch is set 5psi below hot idle pressure (35psi) & the running pressure switch is set 10 psi below normal run pressure (70psi)
I used all led's so I don't need to scan gauges when riding.
My baby is fully protected now. :)
Is that the sort of thing you have in mind?

Davy

Yes EXACTLY

[Naks]

Have you considered the Madman EMS system? It was designed for landys by a landy mechanic :)

[adonuff]

If you design one I will vollenteer to be the test vehicle, Something that would warn us if the bolt on the oil pump falls off or an oil line fails might save a lot of dollars and a lot of suffering!

[adonuff]

Have you considered the Madman EMS system? It was designed for landys by a landy mechanic :)

Hi I have, and I'm wondering about he price and the ease of installing it? I had a look but cant seem to find how many $ ? I like Daves engine saver as it is affordable, reliable and was a 1 hour job to fit. PS Dave if you build one give it a differant alarm sound so we know what bit is broken!

[dirtdawg]

Hi Dave can you please pm me with a price for the tm2 engine saver

Cheers matt

[frantic]

Hi Dave can you please pm me with a price for the tm2 engine saver

Cheers matt

DITTO, thanks Matt.:)

[DiscoG]

Are the combo units available to buy now?

[tolemac]

Have you considered the Madman EMS system? It was designed for landys by a landy mechanic :)

I have had a Madman for the past 10 years. Within the first 6 months the oil pressure falsely showed way over pressure, so I programmed that out. Some years later the EGT showed over range, even on a cold start, so I programmed that out too. The voltage reading is .4 volts out, maybe it always was, I don't know. The low coolant alarm still works, but I cannot change it to less than 30 second delay for the alarm. I would not recommend Madman.

[DiscoDB]

I have had a Madman for the past 10 years. Within the first 6 months the oil pressure falsely showed way over pressure, so I programmed that out. Some years later the EGT showed over range, even on a cold start, so I programmed that out too. The voltage reading is .4 volts out, maybe it always was, I don't know. The low coolant alarm still works, but I cannot change it to less than 30 second delay for the alarm. I would not recommend Madman.

Assuming you had the EMS-1, I found the harness plug not fully engaged would cause dodgy EGT readings. I also used to see high oil pressure readings when cold which was a faulty pressure relief valve. The oil pressure would go out of range.

[tolemac]

Assuming you had the EMS-1, I found the harness plug not fully engaged would cause dodgy EGT readings. I also used to see high oil pressure readings when cold which was a faulty pressure relief valve. The oil pressure would go out of range.
Yes, it's a EMS 1. I had the oil pressure checked by screwing in a gauge and it was to spec's, the madman was definitely giving a false reading.