2A Vic roadworthy requirements ??

[rijidij]

I'm currently working on getting my 2A Shorty to a roadworthy condition so I can register it. I'm familiar with the mechanical side of things, but what are the other requirements with older vehicles? eg 2A's didn't come out with windscreen demisters, if I have rear sideways facing seats do I need to have seatbelts etc etc etc . Any other issues ??

Cheers, Murray

[JDNSW]

To some extent the requirements seem to be up to the discretion of the person doing the inspection, although it should only depend on the age! If you want to be certain, you will have to search their website and you should eventually come up with dates for various rules - note that the exact date of the vehicle is important.

Judging on my experience in Victoria, now somewhat dated, regardless of the vehicle date, you will need to have both left and right wipers, and will need to have windscreen washers, and also turn indicators. Demisters were not required when I did mine, and I very much doubt whether this requirement was made retrospective (very few have been). You will need both left and right outside mirrors, and probably an inside mirror.

If the vehicle has front seat belt mounts, expect to need front seat belts, even if it has never had them. Depending on the age of the vehicle, rear seat belts are probably not required. (But I would encourage seat belts in all positions)

It will certainly require to be fitted with an ignition key, but a requirement for lockable doors is unlikely.

One point you may need to argue over is pedal rubbers - these were never standard on Series Landrovers, although you may be required to build up the steel anti-slip bumps on the pedals if these are worn. (Of course you can fit them, but they are expensive, pretty useless and make the pedals further off the floor.)

John

[chazza]

The easiest method of finding out the answers I have found, is to ring the relevant licencing authority and ask to speak to someone in the engineering section, or someone who knows about licencing older cars.

Getting information from forums; car clubs and people who have done it before, inevitably leads to conflicting responses and views, not to mention quite a few furphies that become urban myths.

Here are two urban licencing myths that have been current in WA for years and which the licencing authority assures me is not the case.

Furphy No.1 Copper brake pipes are illegal. Not true! As long as it is rated brake pipe it is acceptable.
Furphy No. 2 For concessional licence; inspections must be done by a car club. Not true any licencing inspector can do it.

Please note that the above is the case in WA; elsewhere in Oz ask the licencing authority.

Cheers Charlie

[101RRS]

The simple rule is that the rules apply at the time the vehicle was built - however as soon as it is modified in any way - all bets are off.

So if the car had belts when built - then required - if not - not required.

Same applies with wipers, washers, mirrors, blinkers etc.

However, if a vehicle did not have seatbelts and they were later fitted - then they will be required. A holden engine fitted - then wipers, washers, etc will be required.

As John said, inspectors think they know all the rules and may use their own interpretation which may not be correct - so know the rules yourself.

I once had a lifted subaru which was legal and did not need engineering. While at the motor registry office in Canberra to pay the yearly rego fee, tech standards spotted the car and slapped a defect notice on the car in the car park - they said I had cut and welded the shockie mounts. I went and saw them and encouraged them to actually look at the mounts which were still bright yellow cad (no cutting) - they still said tuff - so I went back to the their office and after some gentle words of encouragement (legal threats) they pulled the documentation and agreed - and they went and removed the defect notice.

These same people (not the inpectors but the actual rule makers) have subsequently told me my series 1s do not need seat belts, 2 speed washers, blinkers - eg just as it was built. They have also said my 77 FC 101 will have to be engineered to confirm it meets 77 rego/compliance standards as it does not have a compliance plate.:mad:

So know what the rules are and be prepared to help the inspector understand the rules if need be.

Garry

[SIImad]

Hopefully the following three links will be of help.

Roadworthiness certificates : VicRoads (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/RulesStandardsRegulations/RoadworthinessCertificates.htm)

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/E5F44416-57E4-4164-98F5-69E3E8E1C5E3/0/VSI26.pdf


http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Cars/VehicleStandards/

A.J.

[rijidij]

Thanks for the replies guys,
I hate dealing with VicRoads at any time, so I want to be at least a little bit prepared. I expect when someone pulls into the inspection bay in a '72 2A Soft top Shorty, complete with faded paintwork, they will be looking a little closer at the vehicle than your average car.

Cheers, Murray

[JDNSW]

Thanks for the replies guys,
I hate dealing with VicRoads at any time, so I want to be at least a little bit prepared. I expect when someone pulls into the inspection bay in a '72 2A Soft top Shorty, complete with faded paintwork, they will be looking a little closer at the vehicle than your average car.

Cheers, Murray

It can work either way - nit pick, or pass anything reasonable because they don't want to look silly. Just depends on who you get. But worth following up the links above to ensure that you know what you should have.

John

[kaa45]

Thanks for the replies guys,
I hate dealing with VicRoads at any time, so I want to be at least a little bit prepared. I expect when someone pulls into the inspection bay in a '72 2A Soft top Shorty, complete with faded paintwork, they will be looking a little closer at the vehicle than your average car.

Cheers, Murray

I found the guys at Geelong to be really good when i registered my county last year. Only checked the engine and chassis numbers and paper work.

Good luck,
Danny

[rovercare]

I found the guys at Geelong to be really good when i registered my county last year. Only checked the engine and chassis numbers and paper work.

Good luck,
Danny

That's the norm, so long as you have a current RWC and make sure these numbers are clearly visible and you'll be ok

[rijidij]

That's the norm, so long as you have a current RWC and make sure these numbers are clearly visible and you'll be ok

I found out several vehicles ago that they don't particularly like to look for the chassis or eng numbers hidden under a layer of black greasy 'stuff'. :D