Help choosing Defender rims

[Bigmark]

Hi yawl , Does anyone have any thoughts on good rims for my 95 defender. It has the standard steel rims but i want to bling it up a bit in the rim dept. but i still want to have strong rims that can take a bit of a beating and keep a couple of the standard rims for spares. I dont know if chromies are better than alloy or where i can even buy rims to fit (what do i ask for). Any input is appreciated, also regarding tyres, i currently have tubed tyres are they better than tubeless -can i use an inner tube to repair tubeless tyre punctures.
Cheers!

[Scallops]

Hi yawl , Does anyone have any thoughts on good rims for my 95 defender. It has the standard steel rims but i want to bling it up a bit in the rim dept. but i still want to have strong rims that can take a bit of a beating and keep a couple of the standard rims for spares. I dont know if chromies are better than alloy or where i can even buy rims to fit (what do i ask for). Any input is appreciated, also regarding tyres, i currently have tubed tyres are they better than tubeless -can i use an inner tube to repair tubeless tyre punctures.
Cheers!

I just bought 5 new rims for my Defender - I had the standard Alloy wheels but wanted steel rims on which to put some Mickey Thompson MTZ's. I wanted steel rims as they are repairable if damaged - more so than alloy rims.

I reckon steel rims look better on a Fender than alloy rims anyway - but each to their own.

The rim size I bought was a 16 X 7 with 20 positive offset - this allows me to run a 265/75 R16 MT tyre legally and have no rub. I can also run my stock Grabbers (235/85 R16) on these rims.

Tubeless tyres can be run with tubes if needed.

[Bigmark]

Thanks for that scallops (making me hungry) What does this mean "20 positive offset"

[Scallops]

Thanks for that scallops (making me hungry) What does this mean "20 positive offset"

It means the rims are 20mm outboard from the standard rims so they can accommodate a wider tyre than the standard. Otherwise they would rub on the inside of the wheel arch / steering arms when using full lock on the steering column - so it basically moves the wheel outwards.

[Psimpson7]

I have a set of 8x16 Modulars +8 offset, and a set of Dynamics 8x15 cant remember the offset. (its a lot more)

I also had the genuine boost alloys on mine when I bought it and they were taken off straight away.

The Dynamics are the most recent purchase, and I actually dont like them as much as the modulars, due to the fact all the holes for mounting are too big, so you have to screw all the nuts up tight to get them to run true. I know this sounds like a minor gripe but it really gets on my nerves as the modulars dont do it.

my modulars : Devon 4x4 Off Road - 8x16 Silver Modular Wheel : 8x16SILVERMOD : Off Road Equipment from Devon 4x4 (http://www.devon4x4.com/products_a/p591c66/8x16-silver-modular-wheel.html)

Edited to add, you can run a tube in a tubeless tyre as a repair, but ensure there are no stickers on the inside of teh casing

[rosettaquarrier]

Zu Rims Ltd - World Class Rims! (http://www.zurims.com/)

The way to go, in my opinion.

[spudboy]

I replaced the standard alloys on mine with "Wolf" rims, same as used by the UK military I believe.

Dead strong, with thicker steel used than the Defender standard rims. You can get tubed and tubless models. I went for Tubeless with Michelin XZL tyres.

I can post a pic of mine if you like. Otherwise you can do a search for Wolf and you should turn up a few pictures. Not very bling though :D

[VladTepes]

Zu Rims Ltd - World Class Rims! (http://www.zurims.com/)

The way to go, in my opinion.

If you're rich !




IIRC there was a company making 8" rims specifically for Defenders and I THINK it may have been the CSA Highlander II wheel.
Of course I could be wrong.

[taff]

i have a few set's of rims for sale that would fit your car

2 x sets (5)of steel disco rims
1 x set (5)of wolf rims - steel
and a set of 4 brand new alloys with new tyres - theres a picture in the markets section under wrecking 95 disco.

jason

[mark2]

I replaced the standard alloys on mine with "Wolf" rims, same as used by the UK military I believe.

Dead strong, with thicker steel used than the Defender standard rims. You can get tubed and tubless models. I went for Tubeless with Michelin XZL tyres.

I can post a pic of mine if you like. Otherwise you can do a search for Wolf and you should turn up a few pictures. Not very bling though :D

I reckon this is the way to go. A tiny bit more bling than standard and very functional. I'm also one of those who thinks alloys dont look right on 110's but its a free country.
I also dont mind the sunraysia type rims on a 110. Can also paint them colors other than white for a bit of bling and they are cheap.

[Bigmark]

Thanks mark2, a picture would be great,

[spudboy]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[incisor]

The rim size I bought was a 16 X 7 with 20 positive offset - .

what and where from pray tell ?

[VladTepes]

Even if you're agnostic - just tell !

[Scallops]

what and where from pray tell ?

Got mine from Brett at AUS TYRE 'N' WHEELS, 447 NERANG-SOUTHPORT RD, ASHMORE, QLD, 4214.

DRanged put me onto them - they do good deals for Club members.

But they are widely available - Fourbys have them too, for example. They are made by Dynamic in Melbourne - I got black ones - they look good on a white Fender. :cool:

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3461/img0054vixq7.th.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0054vixq7.jpg)http://img221.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

[Col.Coleman]

Mine are kings 16x7 0 offset.

Scallops, you described the offset on yours around the wrong way.
Your rims sit more inboard so the guard covers your tyre more.

Here they are new

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/05/1025.jpg

clean

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/1232.jpg

and dirty

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/11/58.jpg

And as for XZL's:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

CC

[spudboy]

And as for XZL's:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

CC

Glad to see that someone else apart from me likes these tyres

[rar110]

I think the Kings 16x7 are a good spec rim. They look plenty solid and good offset, for good price ($120 each).

Disco steel rims are the best value and very strong, however sit a bit too close to the chassis, not enough offset and will rub on turns even with 235/85s. Quite a few have moved the centers to change the offset making a good rim.

Wolf rims are very strong but pretty expensive. The offset is not as much as the Kings. I bought wolf tubeless and was a bit disappointed with the presence of weld splatter on the centers. Also these need to be painted/powdercoated before fitting as come primed only. If fitting to a county IMO you will need to spend another $200 getting longer wheel studs as the centers are so thick guage, not such a problem with defender hubs.

130 rims are another good option 16 x 6.5. I have heard you can fit a 130 wheel centre to a a disco rim band. This would give you offset you want, with a 7" tubeless rim. You would end up with a genuine appearance rim with the same spec as a new King wheel for about the same cost.

[Scallops]

Scallops, you described the offset on yours around the wrong way.
Your rims sit more inboard so the guard covers your tyre more.

CC

Nope - mine have positive 20 offset....The tyres do however just fit inside the gaurds - but the standard tyres fit way inside the gaurds.

OFFSET - from About.com
Auto Repair

Definition: The position of the backside of the wheel center section with respect to the centerline of the rim. If the center is closer to the back of the wheel, is has "negative" offset. If the center is closer to the outside face or front of the wheel, it has "positive" offset. Most wheels on FWD cars have positive offset. :)

[87County]

standard disco rims are the easiest most straightforward way to go ... they'll take the widest (practical) tyre you can use........

[justinc]

Glad to see that someone else apart from me likes these tyres

I like them too, If they came in 255/85 or 33" I would have them in a flash, whatever they cost.

(:eek:)

JC

[slug_burner]

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https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/11/43.jpg

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https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/11/44.jpg

[Col.Coleman]

It means the rims are 20mm outboard from the standard rims so they can accommodate a wider tyre than the standard. Otherwise they would rub on the inside of the wheel arch / steering arms when using full lock on the steering column - so it basically moves the wheel outwards.


Nope - mine have positive 20 offset....The tyres do however just fit inside the gaurds - but the standard tyres fit way inside the gaurds.

OFFSET - from About.com
Auto Repair

Definition: The position of the backside of the wheel center section with respect to the centerline of the rim. If the center is closer to the back of the wheel, is has "negative" offset. If the center is closer to the outside face or front of the wheel, it has "positive" offset. Most wheels on FWD cars have positive offset. :)

As I said you described yours backwards.

If you move the centre towards the outer face of the rim, positive offset, the tyre moves inwards, negative offset gives a deeper dished rim and the tyre moves outwards.

CC

[Scallops]

As I said you described yours backwards.

If you move the centre towards the outer face of the rim, positive offset, the tyre moves inwards, negative offset gives a deeper dished rim and the tyre moves outwards.

CC

I stand corrected! Thanks for the info - I've learnt something! :)

[VladTepes]

You can;t legally put Disco rims on a 130. 110 is OK though.

[VladTepes]

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[VladTepes]

Right - so..

say I want to put a set of 235/85 16 or 255/75 16 or something tyres on a new set of rims.

Say I was to get Dynamic or King rims (anyone know where in Brissie I can get Kings ?)

what OFFSET should I get them in? Do these wheels come in a "standard" form and would that be suitable ?

[ugu80]

I got 16x7 Kings steel wheels last year with 235x85x16 Maxxis Mudders. I was there when the tyre bloke ordered the rims over the phone, he just asked for wheels for a 130 Defender. The extra width is all on the outside so clearance for brakes, steering, etc is the same and you just get a bit wider track. The 7" rim means you can go a lot wider than 235, but I didn't want to alter things too much. Then had a wheel alignment at Pro Axle and it was fine so the wheel/tyre change did bugger all to the steering geometry.

[Chucaro]

I got RR 1988 rims in my 110 with Maxxis 235*85*16, are they legal?

[ScottW]

I got RR 1988 rims in my 110 with Maxxis 235*85*16, are they legal?

Are they the 3 spoke alloys? If so they have the load rating cast into the rim. Check it against the max load specs for the 110 and see if they are adequate.

[VladTepes]

little help....


Right - so..

Anyone know where in Brissie I can get Kings rims ?

[rangieman]

I run dynamic 15x8" with + 25 mm offset wheels , The tyres are 33x12.5 Nangkang mudstars the only prob i had is the tyre syicks out past the standard flare https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/820.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/821.jpg
So i fitted Flexi Flares , Much better now:D


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/823.jpg




(http://www.aulro.com/afvb/https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/822.jpg)

[rangieman]

And side on;)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/819.jpg
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/rangieman/2009_1219_145707.jpg)

[ugu80]

The Kings steel also means you can use a 'jack mate' with a high lift jack. Hell of lot easier just lifting the wheel than jacking through the whole suspension droop. Just a thought might be worth considering if you have/use a high lift jack.

[VladTepes]

The Kings steel also means you can use a 'jack mate' with a high lift jack. Hell of lot easier just lifting the wheel than jacking through the whole suspension droop. Just a thought might be worth considering if you have/use a high lift jack.

I don't understand . For what ? Jacking directly odd the wheel rim ? Huh ?

Rangieman - any probs with the dynamics ? I read in another thread somewhere that the centres aren't exactly right and the nuts need to be completely tightened up HARD to stop movement in the wheel ?




I still need to know where in Brissie sells the Kings rims ?

[rangieman]

I don't understand . For what ? Jacking directly odd the wheel rim ? Huh ?

Rangieman - any probs with the dynamics ? I read in another thread somewhere that the centres aren't exactly right and the nuts need to be completely tightened up HARD to stop movement in the wheel ?




I still need to know where in Brissie sells the Kings rims ?
Yes the centre is larger than the hub ,
And no ive never had a problem with the rims centering using the nuts or wheels coming loose because the wheel hub centre being larger the the axle hub :cool:

[slug_burner]

QLD: King Wheels Australia Pty Ltd
49 Weaver St, Coopers Plains QLD 4108
Phone:- (07) 3875 2214
Fax:- (07) 3875 2216

Give them a call I am sure they will know who retails their stuff

[ugu80]

'Jack mate'

They're about 60 to 70 bucks. Hooks fit into the slots of the wheels with a pad resting on the tyre. Another bit fits onto the foot of the high lift jack so you lift the wheel directly instead of jacking the b/bar. Lets you get rocks, etc under the tyre more easily than jacking the b/bar. Can't use them on standard wheels as there's no slots.

[Gav110]

Big Mark, I've had the black steel rims on my old white Fender - they do look great but in an 'intimidating', no B.S., tuff truck sort of a way. They look tough - especially with MTs.

The cream/white steel wheel effect has a softer effect - more like the original series (non-military) vehicles. They're a great look too - but produce a different effect. I like them a lot - just look at SpudBoy's pics!

If you want *bling*, then short of chroming some steelies (possible I'm sure - provided done well, but likely very $$$) alloys give the best effect - but as has been observed are effectively harder to repair than standard steels.

This last point is where vehicle use comes into play the most. Carrying 2 spares (or even 1 usually) is in my view ample insurance for what I do - plus the load ratings on most new alloys are as I understand it, typically over-engineered.

When I looked around for my new '10 Fender (delivery in June), the 3 key options I cam up with were:

1. Order standard Boost Alloys (original offset)

2. Order the new "Dual Finish" rims Land Rover are offering as an option on new orders. These were the kind fitted to the SVX and are an $850 premium (offset remains same). I have attached some photos from the web.

3. Buy the ZU rims discussed here - which have great strength and a bit of extra negative offset (they will effectively widen the track slightly). Photo also attached.

In the end I went with #2 above - figuring that they look the most finished of all (although the Zu's look great they don't ship with centre caps) - and I could always sell them later for a premium over standard Boosts if needed. I haven't seen any second hand yet, but am sure they will tuen up eventually.

I will post my own pics on the site when I get delivery (incidentally I will be fitting BFG MT KM2 255/85 or same size in Mickey Thompson Baja Claw)

Hope this helps.

Gav

[DeeJay]

I've always liked the Eastern Wheel Works wheels, they've been around since the 70's.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/09/1870.jpg

[VladTepes]

'Jack mate'

They're about 60 to 70 bucks. Hooks fit into the slots of the wheels with a pad resting on the tyre. Another bit fits onto the foot of the high lift jack so you lift the wheel directly instead of jacking the b/bar. Lets you get rocks, etc under the tyre more easily than jacking the b/bar. Can't use them on standard wheels as there's no slots.

Ok that makes sense I thought you meant to change he wheel in case of a flat nd thought "That doesn't make sense!".

[Kelly928]

Just had these put on.

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Flipped rims. Backspace now ~105mm (original backspace ~135mm). Offset measurements can get very very confusing.

Done at Eastern Wheel Works (Lilydale). Sandblasted and powder coated gloss white. Bought original rims for $50/rim. For mod, blasting and coating ~$115/rim. Steel wheel nuts (Britpart) from Rovercraft (Ferntree gully)

Make sure sure to get backspace measurement checked again after modification. I had 2 rims out by 6 - 7mm and visually obvious, the other 3 rims were +- 1mm of each other. IMO I believe that +- 2mm max variation between rims is acceptable considering +-1mm was easily achieved.

Tyres are 235/85/16 and just make it under flares. If fitting 255/85/16 will have to extend flares.

Better turning circle and ~60mm wider trackwidth, Have not noticed additional ~3kg/rim in weight compared to Boost alloys.

D1 steels just look awesome on a fender. Very Happy:)

[I Love My Landy!]

Very nice Kelly928! :thumbsup:

Edward

[Wal Rat]

Have Done the same with disco rims
36446

[slug_burner]

The centres have gone back in towards the inside of the tyre/vehicle. That is a difference of 30 mm, given the disco 1 wheels are 33mm positive offset you now have 3 mm positive offset.

I have someone with 12 mm negative offset rims ready to sell however I am uncertain if this will push the tyres out too far and end up outside the guard and if they will rub on the guards when articulating. Anyone have any experience. Looking at putting them on a defender MY95 with 255/85X16.


Just had these put on.

24863 24864 24865 24866
24867

Flipped rims. Backspace now ~105mm (original backspace ~135mm). Offset measurements can get very very confusing.

Done at Eastern Wheel Works (Lilydale). Sandblasted and powder coated gloss white. Bought original rims for $50/rim. For mod, blasting and coating ~$115/rim. Steel wheel nuts (Britpart) from Rovercraft (Ferntree gully)

Make sure sure to get backspace measurement checked again after modification. I had 2 rims out by 6 - 7mm and visually obvious, the other 3 rims were +- 1mm of each other. IMO I believe that +- 2mm max variation between rims is acceptable considering +-1mm was easily achieved.

Tyres are 235/85/16 and just make it under flares. If fitting 255/85/16 will have to extend flares.

Better turning circle and ~60mm wider trackwidth, Have not noticed additional ~3kg/rim in weight compared to Boost alloys.

D1 steels just look awesome on a fender. Very Happy:)