Slow AULRO Site

[101RRS]

A while back I became a subscriber and hoped that the site would run a bit faster :).

It seems to get even slower for me to the point that it is almost impossible to use - each page just takes so long to open and close. I notice that the ads seem to take ages to load and slow things right down - I appreciate that advertising is very important to funding however if they slow everything down then a balance need to be reached.

Can we still have the ads and also quick opening and closing pages.

Cheers

Garry

[incisor]

A while back I became a subscriber and hoped that the site would run a bit faster :).

It seems to get even slower for me to the point that it is almost impossible to use - each page just takes so long to open and close. I notice that the ads seem to take ages to load and slow things right down - I appreciate that advertising is very important to funding however if they slow everything down then a balance need to be reached.

Can we still have the ads and also quick opening and closing pages.

Cheers

Garry

the adverts have no speed impact unless you are using a very low spec system.

or use the archive version (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/archive/index.php/) of the site so it loads quicker ...

i am still working on the new server but have had very limited time to do anything on the noisy mongrel thing :p

[PhilipA]

X2
I have just switched to Optus with 20Mbs and the download seems to stick at 50% -80% on some pages while others are speed of light.
There seems to be no rhyme nor reason to threads that stall.
If I immediately check a known fast site like BOM it downloads at the speed of light, so I do not think its my connection.
Regards Philip A

[incisor]

because pages are mainly dynamic it seems to act oddly on some optus connected services sometimes. i think it has something to do with the size of the link to pipe networks interconnects. like it is dropping packets due to congestion or some sort of rate limiting.

i see very few of these issues on telstra but they have their own issues at times.

for the last four weeks or so the site has been hammered by ssh login/breakin attempts (and that is one reason i havent started switching in the new server) and that maybe part of the congestion problem.

[PhilipA]

Darn, I was just about to say I think I have fixed it by disabling Firefox add ons , then I had to cancel and refresh to get the Reply window up!

Does this congest the site? It seems to work as if you cancel then refresh the page comes up quickly some/most of the time.

There is an issue on the Mozilla site about slow downloads on version 3.04, so maybe its a combination of problems.
IE7 seems a little quicker but works in a different way, with the barometer crawling up rather than freezing at 70-80%
Regards Philip A

[101RRS]

It seems to work as if you cancel then refresh the page comes up quickly some/most of the time.

That is what I do to make the site go a bit faster.

The reason I raised the issue of the ads is that when my system says "transferring data from AULRO" it is going reasonable quickly - but comes to an almost stop when it says "waiting for ad.yieldmanager.com" - when it finally disappears the ads then come up.

Garry

[Pedro_The_Swift]

It is VERY frustrating,,
quite often the page will just stop loading,,:mad:





though it never happens to the pages where I put my foot in it,,,,:p:p

[JDNSW]

I can't really say how bad it is - everything is bad with my ISP! Just how bad became apparent yesterday when I got "shaped" to 56kbps instead of 1024kbps, after running out of data allowance. It is almost impossible to tell the difference!

The problem is not the connection speed - speed tests show the download speed is somewhere near what it should be, although upload speed is usually well below the 512kbps it is supposed to be. And ping time is around one second, as expected.

But the problem is that, as shown by the system monitor, I request a web page, and it takes a minimum of about fifteen seconds before I get a response, and sometimes up to several minutes. It does not seem to matter much what website I am looking at, although ones that are made of a number of bits obviously take longer, a lot longer. Some websites tend to give up on me and I have to reload to get them, sometimes several times.

I have been complaining about this to my ISP for nearly two months, without much effect. Anyone got any suggestion as to what the problem is?

John

[Pedro_The_Swift]

did you end up going to satellite John?

[Debacle]

I dont have too many problems with the site even when slowed to dialup.

Am on tpg adsl2 and regularly use a couple of clean up/ optimize tools on the computer.

If you havent used one of these before you will probably be surprised at the difference it makes.

[JDNSW]

did you end up going to satellite John?

yes, been on satellite since May. It was a big improvement until about the beginning of October. Not sure what happened then.

I can't see that it can be anything to do with my computer - the probelm, as I said, is simply that there seems to be a substantial delay after my request for a web page goes to the satellite. Interestingly, it does not exist when I go to the mail server - response is usually (not always) about one second.

John

[Pedro_The_Swift]

your ISP didnt change satellites??

They seem to launch a new one every 6 months or so,,

[JDNSW]

Don't think so, but I'm not sure I would know.

John

[Scouse]

AULRO is painfully slow at work. It can easily take 5min to load a page & 75% of the time I need to refresh it to get the whole page loaded.

However, at home it's pretty quick & much easier to use.

It's got me stuffed. Work is lightening fast for everything but AULRO. Maybe they're spying on me :mad:.

[The ho har's]

AULRO is painfully slow at work. It can easily take 5min to load a page & 75% of the time I need to refresh it to get the whole page loaded.

However, at home it's pretty quick & much easier to use.

It's got me stuffed. Work is lightening fast for everything but AULRO. Maybe they're spying on me :mad:.

probably..............so behave.........


Mrs ho har:angel:

[Scouse]

probably..............so behave.........


I try to but this place is a bad influence on me :(.

Naughty AULRO.

[dickyjoe]

I suspect its probably a SQL tuning problem. Is there any indexes configured?

[scarry]

We have got optus at our place.....dunno if i am right but i recon it is congestion.

Get on at this time of night & it is sooooo slow.
Get on first thing in the morning,or real late & is faster

[cal415]

I am on internode 8mb and have noticed the speed of AULRO decreasing over the last few months, sometimes it takes a minute or more to respond, using other forums at the same time i have been clicking on things here changing tabs to another forum to check posts while i let the pages load up from here...

[PhilipA]

Well can anyone recommend some optimising tools/
I tried 2 today and as soon as the sites opened my Pcillen warned of dire consequences, and I did a few checks and one was decried as a scam.
They were ascentive and PCtools. So I was too chicken to download them.
Regards Philip A

[Debacle]

Well can anyone recommend some optimising tools/
I tried 2 today and as soon as the sites opened my Pcillen warned of dire consequences, and I did a few checks and one was decried as a scam.
They were ascentive and PCtools. So I was too chicken to download them.
Regards Philip A

Try this
www.stevengould.org - CleanUp! 4.0 Download (http://www.stevengould.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=223)

[HangOver]

Hi
I don’t want this to sound like a criticism as it’s a great site but it is slow.
I used to work web admin a few, (well a lot of) years ago pretty sure it’s the back end not the internet service but I know how hard it is to nail down issues.

At work they pay a LOT of money for a 10Mb/10Mb uncontested line, its slow there as well as home. Work is Telstra home is AAPT.
As Inc has said though he has a replacement server coming I’m sure it’ll speed things up.

Good luck with it Inc.
Out of curiosity whats the spec on your new beastie?

[RobHay]

I have the same problem. I'm running a Gigabyte S series m/board with twin AMD 3800 dual core processors and my graphics card is a Nvidia GeForce 7600 with 512 mb ram....damn thing flys.....except on AULRO, I have found that I have to refresh the page sometimes to get it to load, and it depends whether there are a heap of users logged on. Some times I even have enough time to wander into the kitchen, make a cup of coffee, wander back and sit down for a few minutes before the page loads.

The problem is in the server...and I know Inc is doing everything he can to rectify it......so please be patient

[The ho har's]

It's not slow ATM:)..well i am off to work now ....



Mrs ho har:angel:

[vnx205]

I can't remember any time when I found AULRO slow to load.

It typically takes 2 to 3 seconds to load a page that I have not seen before. Only about half of that time seems to be taken up with downloading the page. The other half is needed to display the page. It is only a P4 1.7GHz with 512 RAM and a very ordinary video card.
A page with a lot of big pics takes a bit longer.

I have 512 download speed, but even when I was on dialup AULRO loaded quite quickly.

I am with southernphone, one of the regional providers. I don't know which ISP they use.

I don't think I have ever had to refresh a page to get it to load. I'm sure I have never had a page take anything like a minute to load.

I hope I haven't just jinxed myself by saying how well the site performs for me. :p

[JohnE]

Intermittent problem with mine, it is usually when there are a lot logged on, ie sunday evening took ages to bring up a page, and two goes to get pm's to go through,
for that reason i do most of my lurking in the morning when all is quiet and fast,


john

[PhilipA]

Its a lot faster this morning 8.54 AM 2/12/2008.
Although on about the fifth page I opened it stalled at 80%.
I have looked at and changed my firewall settings, which are windows disabled and Trend enabled at medium.
But no difference.
So I tend to agree it is an issue with AULRO or my ISP. I also stalled on my local tennis club site so maybe an Optus issue.
I must say until about 2 weeks ago exploroz was also very slow but now seems much better,and that was with my old ISP Bigpond vs Optusnet, so it had a problem also.
Maybe it is the attacks on the site.

(http://www.stevengould.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=223)www.stevengould.org - CleanUp! 4.0 Download (http://www.stevengould.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=223)
Unfortunately not for Vista , or they state up to XP on their site.
Regards Philip A

[Bushie]

I think its a time of day, and hence network load issue. For me it tends to be quite slow between say 6pm and 11pm but is fine at 2-3-4am and is working quick at the moment 9am.

Now I'm off to work :(



Martyn

[abaddonxi]

I wonder if the browser has anything to do with it?

I use Firefox, and notice that it's slow at peak times, and rarely a stalled page that needs reloading, but never having to wait minutes for pages to load as some have reported.

Cheers
Simon

[incisor]

I suspect its probably a SQL tuning problem. Is there any indexes configured?

i seriously doubt it but your welcome to try and do better...

[incisor]

Out of curiosity whats the spec on your new beastie?
sparc t1000 16 (or 8 cant remember at the moment) core with 16gb ram from memory dual 74g sas drives.

i personally think the problem is multi faceted.

me and a whole heap of others dont see the stalls and major timeouts but i do see some very slow periods at peak hours.

yes the server is slow because it is i/o bound but the timeouts and stalls are another issue altogether imho and i cant see the new server fixing them all.

if a sql specialist can tweak the mysql server better than me i am all for it, so let me know and i will shoot you some configs.

that brings it back to isps, hardware and software issues when it comes to the timeouts and stalls.

some simple statements of fact

the server is housed at a pipe networks exchange in brisbane so aulro is a free read bandwidth wise for many people.

different isps have different size feeds into and out of pipe networks.

i know i get more complaints from people on optus and iinet than i get from others.

on the software side i get more people complaining using nortons, ca, pccillian and mcafee than the others by a magnitude of near on 10 to 1.

i way more support issues with ie than i do with firefox chrome safari and opera

have to run and do an outside job...

[JDNSW]

I wonder if the browser has anything to do with it?

I use Firefox, and notice that it's slow at peak times, and rarely a stalled page that needs reloading, but never having to wait minutes for pages to load as some have reported.

Cheers
Simon

I use both Firefox and Konqueror - and the only difference is that Firefox takes a lot longer to start, and they give slightly different error messages when they time out.

John

[mike 90 RR]

It was a shocker this morning .... Kept getting "server reset connection errors" ... Then goes reeeeeeeaaaaaaal slow

Now it's flying along :) (10am WA time)

What ever button you clicked ..... Great :)



Using a USB "3 mobile" broadband modem on 1year old DuoCore Laptop

[incisor]

done nothing....

last months stats attached.

doesnt do to bad for an old p4 3.0g with 2gig of ram :P

[VladTepes]

Lately Ive been spending a lot more time on my firearms forum and less here mainly becuase of the drustration with speed issues.

You're not wrong about IE though I never could get paypal working on that, and they were no help, but with google chrome works fine.

I'll hit "post" on this message now so it gets done before the end of the day ! :p

[vnx205]

I don't know enough to know whether it is in any way connected with the fact that I have never experienced problems with AULRO at any time of day or night, but I am using Xubuntu and Firefox.

With Linux I don't have to hide behind firewalls (apart from the one in the router) or virus software. Maybe that is part of the reason.

Do other Linux users have any problems with the speed or stalling?

[JDNSW]

I don't know enough to know whether it is in any way connected with the fact that I have never experienced problems with AULRO at any time of day or night, but I am using Xubuntu and Firefox.

With Linux I don't have to hide behind firewalls (apart from the one in the router) or virus software. Maybe that is part of the reason.

Do other Linux users have any problems with the speed or stalling?

Yes, but not only aulro - although it seems to have improved noticeably just in the last few hours; perhaps the ISP is getting sick of my emails and phone calls! Currently using kubuntu and either firefox or konqueror.

Maybe I spoke too soon - took about 45 seconds between clicking on the send button and receiving the post.

John

[Scouse]

Dunno what's happened now but AULRO is super quick at work now. Less than 1-2 sec to load a page.

Woo hoo :p.

[incisor]

1.) i have done nothing that would make things quicker infact with the packet snooping etc that is turned on now it should be slower...

2.) i have my super guru looking at it and he has done nothing that would make it faster

3.) bandwidth at server end is 40% at its maximum spike so there should be no lost packets on the ethernet segment the server is on so lost packets must be further down the pipe...

4.) the server does get i/o bound that i already know but that should not make lost packets.

5.) server cpu load rarely hits 50%

6.) new server is still being worked on but it is a bit of a task as i am learning solaris as i go along :p and with the constant ssh attacks i wont be putting it online till i am sure i have it hardened.

[HangOver]

I'm at work too and concur, undeniably faster :D

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Thanks Inc,,
its nice to hear an update.:D

[abaddonxi]

Dunno what you're not doing, but it's running surprisingly fast tonight.

Simon

[incisor]

it is isnt it...

someone has done something it would appear but it wasnt me or mine..

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[101RRS]

Dunno what you're not doing, but it's running surprisingly fast tonight.

Simon

yep

[Narangga]

This is definitely the fastest I have had it here off bigpond on Firefox thru Norton.

Must the relative humidity @ 78% :o

[Scouse]

Still super speedy this morning :).

Hold that position Inc - don't move an inch :D.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

its unbelievably fast tonight,,,:eek:


dont you move Inc,,:bat:

[PhilipA]

Optusnet had a major system outage this morning 4/12 for at least an hour and maybe several, which affected the Northern Sydney area and Central Coast.
It seems to be quicker now so maybe it was some component failure in Telstra or Optus that was affecting me. Well I hope so anyway.
Regards Philip A

[87County]

try it now (10:42 Thur) - really fast !

well done Dave !

[Scouse]

Apparently there's a new broadcast system for AULRO that's making a vast improvement to the site speed.






http://canstockphoto.com/crawl/10000/900/0010932/Antennae-Retro.jpg
(I hope this displays as I can't see it from work)

[scanfor]

Well, whatever has been done, it is a VAST improvement. I was at the stage of feeling like it was a chore to navigate around the site, but now it's quick and easy.
A BIG THANKYOU to all responsible.:D

[mns488]

yep faster for me lately, even with optus:)

[101RRS]

Well my computers must dislike AULRO - 2 minutes to open a page (and then to close the page). Doesn't matter which computer I use or my own ISP or my neighbours (with approval). I clean my computer every few days. I do not have any issues with the other forums or web pages - just AULRO.

It now takes forever to read new posts - any ideas??

Garry

[incisor]

Well my computers must dislike AULRO - 2 minutes to open a page (and then to close the page). Doesn't matter which computer I use or my own ISP or my neighbours (with approval). I clean my computer every few days. I do not have any issues with the other forums or web pages - just AULRO.

It now takes forever to read new posts - any ideas??

Garry
:eek:

pm me your password so i can login as you...

[fernockulated]

mine is running fine ,tis much better since upgrading to sat b/band,apart from the second of lag time ,tis extremely faster than the old telstra big puddle dialup (28800 kbps ) or something like that ,was slow enough to hit the page button the put the kettle on,make the cuppa,then drink it ,then the page may nearly be loaded,now dont have time to leave the room!!!! :):):):)

[abaddonxi]

I'm getting the occasional server time out and needing to reload the page.

All fine after reload, and not slow.

Simon

[101RRS]

:eek:

pm me your password so i can login as you...

PM sent - speed is OK at the moment.

Cheers

Garry

[PhilipA]

I posted a thread a few weeks back ( answering this thread LOL) that I fixed mine by disabling all but one firewall.
If you have a network router you possibly have 3 firewalls
Windows
Your virus checker
A firmware firewall in your router.
Disable all but the router firewall , and set the settings to ignore pings etc and it should be fixed.
I have had lightning fast response almost always since I did this.

I have Optus ADSL2 and typically get 3000Kbps but have had 7000, so my line is fast. Also log on to ZDnet for a speed check.

Occasionally AULRO may take a couple of seconds and ExploreOZ same.
Utube can sometimes be slow also, but my stalling has completely gone.
Regards Philip A

[101RRS]

Thanks Philip,

I only have the standard windows firewall - thats all.

I have ADSL2+ and even when AULRO is going really slow my line speed is normally about 2 mps.

I have disabled Adobe Flash Player as it may be causing problems as well but has had no impact.

I have noticed that it is slow only during high demand periods. Note though that my neighbour uses a different ISP and I still have the same problems using their connection from my laptop via wireless. I have not problems with Exploreroz, Outerlimits, Overlander, Series 1 Garage, 101 Club, the LRO forums, LR Series 1 Club, 4wd monthly forum or the Jag Lovers forum - AULRO is the only one that runs really slow and then at high load times.

It is running really slow at the moment.

Garry

[incisor]

for me that really only leaves one thing, the size of tpg's connection to the pipe networks IX in brisvegas where the aulro servers are housed.

[Bushie]

I have noticed (last few days) that pages seem to 'hang' a bit on loading and the status bar is always waiting for adyieldmanager (I think that how it presents) if I hit reload it will load up straight away.

Vista Home - FireFox 3.0.6


Martyn

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Hey Bushie!!
does your scrolling stop after the first roll?
(firefox 3.0.6)

[Pedro_The_Swift]

yep,, adyeildmanager is a pain,,,

[Bushie]

Hey Bushie!!
does your scrolling stop after the first roll?
(firefox 3.0.6)

Can't say I've noticed it in this version - has done in previous ones though, but it wasn't consistent.


Martyn

[101RRS]

yep,, adyeildmanager is a pain,,,

Thats the sucker - is what makes my system hang - is it anything to do with the ads loading on the page - seems as if they are not on the page and when adyeildmanager.com finally loads the ads then appear.

Garry

[THE BOOGER]

Have big pond cable and tpg adsl2. Big pond is fast as, tpg is quite a bit slower but dont get hangups or stalls just get spoiled by cable.:p

[incisor]

adyeildmanager is what is keeping the place afloat at the moment... ;)

[lro11]

why when you post something it does not appear in new posts anymore?????

[101RRS]

I have now told my system to wipe all cookies when I exit - speed is now good - just means I have to login each time I visit - speed is good though

[djam1]

Gary run ccleaner a program that gets all temp files etc.
I have found the site great for the last couple of months a credit to Inc.
It has been a pain in the past but has been great lately

[101RRS]

Gary run ccleaner a program that gets all temp files

I do - speeds up the system for about 2 hours and then cloggs up - cleaning also takes out things I would prefer it not - like all my investments profiles which are a pain to put back in.

Any way - cleaning cookies from AULRO on each logoff seems to do the trick.

Garry

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Garry;--with ccleaner you can "keep" whatever cookies you want,,,,

NM;-- mostly scrolling with the mouse wheel I get one roll of the wheel then resort to the side UP/DOWN arrows.

I can get it to work (sometimes) if I click randomly on the screen,,,,

[Pedro_The_Swift]

OMG!!

thats WAY to fast!!

I might miss some goss!!
:eek:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

"Got to make the morn'in last"

[101RRS]

ad.yieldmanager.com sucks

waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting

sorry to be a bore - waiting, waiting, waiting


Garry

[pete]

Mine is still running sooooo slow too I am on TPG adsl2+ and everything else is quick but this is like a return to dialup. Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks Pete

[hoadie72]

All my internets are slow today, even from work. I have ADSL2+ too.

[350RRC]

Hi,

The following may be relevant, maybe not.

I have a MacBook running Safari as a browser. Until recently I was still using Adobe reader 5 from my old Mac. Noticed that this site had got slower at loading each new page, seemed to be slowed down by the Flight Center Ad @ the top left.

Had to download Adobe Reader 9 for some reason, and have since noticed this site loads as fast as any other now. Forementioned ad loads instantly now.

cheers, DL

[abaddonxi]

How about this for weird?

Old house was on iinet, near the end of the month I got throttled to 64k AULRO loaded at a similar speed, maybe faster, to the un-throttled ADSL2+:eek:

New house is on Gotalk, ADSL2+, but only at 8Mbits until I bring up the fast modem. AULRO much the same speed.

Simon

[350RRC]

Has anyone who has downloaded Adobe Reader 9 noticed any difference to the speed of this site loading (as per my previous post above)?

I downloaded 9.1 yesterday, and part of it was going into Safari, which is the browser I use. Aulro continues to be as fast to load as any other site.

cheers, DL

[JDNSW]

Since my ISP fixed the problem earlier this month (new firmware downloaded into the modem - but it took them nearly four months to fix it. Problem seems to be actually IPStar) AULRO and other sites have been quite fast, with AULRO no different from other sites.

John

[incisor]

absolutely flying for me on my mac using firefox....

;)

[101RRS]

absolutely flying for me on my mac using firefox....

;)

Yes but you are the administrator and know all the perks - I must admit I have had absolutely no problems since I last e-mailed you last.:)

Garry

[Bushie]

I think there has got to be issues external to Aulro, last night it was as slow as a wet week, almost to the point of being unusable, this morning it's fast again :confused::confused:

No reboots or anything at my end.


Martyn

[incisor]

Yes but you are the administrator and know all the perks - I must admit I have had absolutely no problems since I last e-mailed you last.:)

Garry

what perks are they?

i access it the same as everybody else, via a web browser thru an isp..