S11b FC Passenger Windscreen Glass

[oliver1981]

Hi all,

Looking for a replacement windscreen passenger side for 68 S2b?

Also chasing 2 axle caps

All help aprreciated

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Oliver

All the glass in the S2B is exactly the same as the regular series Land Rovers.

Diana

[JDNSW]

As Diana says - windscreens are the same on all Series 2/2a/2b/3 Landrovers, and right and left are the same. I expect it to be available from any windscreen supplier, although they may not be keen to fit it, but probably the cheapest would be from any organisation wrecking Series 2, 2a, 2b or 3 Landrovers (but you might want to make sure you are getting laminated not toughened, as some of the early ones will be), or any of the specialist Landrover suppliers, and possibly even from a dealer.

If you let us know where you are, some specific suggestions could be made.

John

[oliver1981]

John, I am in the ACT and am the new owner of Vic Jaegers Campervan. Getting it back to roadworthy to put it to good use

[oliver1981]

John,

Why go for the laminated over the toughened?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Oliver

Great to see that someone has got a forward control with such a great history in LR circles. Was very interested in the coil front suspension and how it rides. Was interested in that one as well but it was not the right time financially for me to negotiate a sale.

You'll have to give us a run down on it when back on rego.

Do they have "motorhome" rego in ACT? I've heard that it is cheaper than regular rego for the weight.

Back to the glass. If you are looking for the front windscreen and can't get laminated series screens, then Windscreen O'Brien in Minto in SW Sydney are authorised to cut flat laminated glass for automotive use.

Diana

[JDNSW]

John,

Why go for the laminated over the toughened?

There are advantages to both, but for more than thirty years laminated has been obligatory - of course if the vehicle is older, you can use either.

Advantages:-
Laminated - when damaged by a rock, the damage is local, unlike toughened, which will shatter all over and become opaque. This is its only advantage.

Toughened - much more difficult to damage. Harder and hence more difficult to scratch. Generally speaking more durable, but when damaged is a total loss.

John

[101RRS]

The glass place in Kembla St in Fyshwick can get automotive tempered glass and laminated glass made with the appropriate automotive standards etching on it - just need to give them the size - takes a couple of days.

I had side glass for my 101 made there.

Cheers

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

There are advantages to both, but for more than thirty years laminated has been obligatory - of course if the vehicle is older, you can use either.

Advantages:-
Laminated - when damaged by a rock, the damage is local, unlike toughened, which will shatter all over and become opaque. This is its only advantage. ...

... JohnJohn

You forgot to mention the whole safety thing of the laminated screen. When a rock hits a toughened screen and it shatters the rock or other projectile continues on its path and hits whatever is behind like your head. With a laminated screen although the screen cracks and chips earlier, the resultant force of the projectile has to be significantly greater for it to penetrate the interior of the vehicle. Although there are a number of recent crashes where large rocks have been hurled at moving cars from overpasses with devastating results to the driver.

Personally, I would be getting laminated over toughened every time.

Diana

[JDNSW]

John

You forgot to mention the whole safety thing of the laminated screen. When a rock hits a toughened screen and it shatters the rock or other projectile continues on its path and hits whatever is behind like your head. With a laminated screen although the screen cracks and chips earlier, the resultant force of the projectile has to be significantly greater for it to penetrate the interior of the vehicle. Although there are a number of recent crashes where large rocks have been hurled at moving cars from overpasses with devastating results to the driver.

Personally, I would be getting laminated over toughened every time.

Diana

I think I would too, but not for that reason. I am not sure that you are right about the rock being more likely to go through a toughened glass screen than a laminated one - I have had quite a number of toughened screens broken in front of me, and with one exception the screen remained in place (that one was in a brand new Landcruiser FJ45V, and I had fragments of glass from one end to the other - fortunately I was wearing sunglasses).

When I was working in Roma in the late sixties, we had a very high breakage rate, and laminated screens were virtually unheard of. On one occasion, a truck heading for Brisbane broke four screens before getting more than thirty miles from Roma - on his fifth attempt he got nearly a hundred miles from Roma before it broke (the Condamine Highway was also known as the Crystal Highway from the shoulders paved with broken windscreens, thanks to Queensland's propensity for a single lane of bitumen). I cannot recall a single case of anyone being hit by a rock coming through the windscreen.

The safety reason for using laminated glass is that a toughened screen becomes pretty near opaque when shattered, and usually stays in place, so that a serious accident after breaking the screen is quite likely. That is why I would have laminated every time.

The change to laminated windscreens is a symptom of the increasing affluence of society over the last fifty years - laminated glass has been available for windscreens for about 100 years, but has always been a lot dearer than toughened glass, and it is only in the last thirty-forty years that it has been feasible to mandate it (along with a lot of other safety features, some of which are a lot less justifiable).

But despite its advantages, it still needs to be pointed out that it is more easily damaged than toughened glass.

John

[oliver1981]

Well thanks for all your input!

Julie - not sure about motorhome rego in ACT. They certainly have it in VIC and it is considerably cheaper. The front end is very interesting. Either county or RR. Outer axle is a bit different though, open hub type hence looking for the caps. The swaybar is maintained and it has also running a 4 bolt PS box. Have rego inspection tomorrow so all being well will add photos over the next few days. If there is anything in particular you would like to see, let me know.

John - found a spare windscreen in the box of goodies that came with the jalopy! It was previously a driver side but cleaned it up and put it in last night. Its a toughened spec.

Garry - thanks for the info RE Canberra glass. Need a pane for one of the camper side windows so will go and see them for a measure up.

Its an interesting starter setup. 24v starter with a 12v changeover for charging. Is this common? From what I can see it allows alot smaller bodied starter over the 12v. Does however mean that there are 3 batteries (2 crank + 1 deep cycle).....

I managed to kill the laternator on the way home on Saturday, driving through the night, the 12v 50a couldn't keep up with all things electrical ticking away! Off to the Auto elec on Friday for a new one with some more berries!

[dickyjoe]

I have the details of a Land Rover parts supplier who has a stack of windscreen glass to suit Series Land Rovers (ex army). PM me and I will put you in contact.

[101RRS]

Have rego inspection tomorrow. If there is anything in particular you would like to see, let me know.


Please let us know how you go and any issues you have in the whole process. 101s do not have a compliance plate (1977 mod) and tech standards have said that even though my 101 is standard and has been registered in other states, I will have to get an engineers certificate to say the vehicle meets compliance standards.

So, interested to see how you go with your modified vehicle - you will need to have the vehicle go through an identity check at Dickson. ACT authorities do not seem to recognise that other authorites exist and set their own rules.

Cheers

Garry