More NP's declared

[VladTepes]

Another "look how green we are" government National Parks declaration.


New parks to protect river red gums (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=704967)

Anyone know these areas ?

Implications for off-roaders ?

[ladas]

Another "look how green we are" government National Parks declaration.


New parks to protect river red gums (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=704967)

Anyone know these areas ?

Implications for off-roaders ?

The Barmah Forrest, doesn't really affect off roaders, but it will affect campers, fishers, and nice days out by the river.

.............and of course the cattlemen !!!!!!

[Slunnie]

Four new national parks will be created along the Murray River system to protect Victoria's river red gums, it was announced on Tuesday.
The new parks will be declared along the Murray, Goulburn and Ovens rivers, taking the region's total conservation area to 160,000 hectares.
The areas will no longer be able to be logged for timber.
The state government will spend $38 million over four years to create the parks and help timber communities adjust.
"Climate change and drought mean the river red gums are in trouble, with estimates that as many as 75 per cent of trees on some stretches of the Murray are either dead or dying," Victorian premier John Brumby said.
"We have to take action to protect this precious heritage, but in doing so we also have to take a balanced approach that supports local communities and protects and enhances recreational opportunities in these regions."
The four parks will be known as the Lower Goulburn River National Park, Warby-Ovens National Park, Gunbower National Park and Barmah National Park.



No doubt the area which has 75% of trees in trouble are the bits where they've logged.

I guess it means that there are more areas which will be locked up to all and everybody to enhance the recreational opportunities for bushwalkers and photographers. This will be later exacerbated after the first 6 months when the $38,000,000 turns out to be $380,000 (economic climate!) runs out and the parks are then locked off because the NPWS cant afford to look after it and it is deemed to be unsafe due to dead fall. After this the exotic weeds will start to overgrow as the natives get run down and vermin move in. Fox's will provale and start killing nearby graziers stock and feral pigs will start uprooting any crops. Gulls will migrate and eat the rice and seeds also. The farmers will tolerate 5 years of hardship until they reach a crisis point where they are no longer viable and their irrigaation doesn't work either as it keeps getting blocked with Carp. They collectively move to bring the NPWS before the courts for neglecting to control vermin and the subsequent effects to their property and loss of income. The government will then sell the land back to the logging companies very quietly after generating a media smokescreen.... such as why bullbars should be banned in urban areas. By then there will be so much deadfall and vegetation that the area will be unusable on the land and the river will be snagalicious.

Well.... thats my prediction. :D

[dullbird]

great more green land were people cant walk their dogs :mad:

[Panda]

Did you see how much NP are going to spend????? OMG! :eek:

[waynep]

I've camped along the Murray a few times ... some great spots along there.

I have also observed certain other groups there behaving like idiots, so this is what will happen.

[Slunnie]

Yup, its really nice at Deniliquin too, where I once lived.

Actually, nice is on a houseboat, in the spa, drinking, eating and enjoying good company and the warn sun. hmmmmm.....

[weeds]

great more green land were people cant walk their dogs :mad:

no dogs allows in NP's;)

[Shonky]

no dogs allows in NP's;)

Exactly her point... ;)

[Bundalene]

No doubt the area which has 75% of trees in trouble are the bits where they've logged.

I guess it means that there are more areas which will be locked up to all and everybody to enhance the recreational opportunities for bushwalkers and photographers. This will be later exacerbated after the first 6 months when the $38,000,000 turns out to be $380,000 (economic climate!) runs out and the parks are then locked off because the NPWS cant afford to look after it and it is deemed to be unsafe due to dead fall. After this the exotic weeds will start to overgrow as the natives get run down and vermin move in. Fox's will provale and start killing nearby graziers stock and feral pigs will start uprooting any crops. Gulls will migrate and eat the rice and seeds also. The farmers will tolerate 5 years of hardship until they reach a crisis point where they are no longer viable and their irrigaation doesn't work either as it keeps getting blocked with Carp. They collectively move to bring the NPWS before the courts for neglecting to control vermin and the subsequent effects to their property and loss of income. The government will then sell the land back to the logging companies very quietly after generating a media smokescreen.... such as why bullbars should be banned in urban areas. By then there will be so much deadfall and vegetation that the area will be unusable on the land and the river will be snagalicious.

Well.... thats my prediction. :D

Sadly, you're probably right Slunnie.

Have a Happy New Year anyhow:p

[waynep]

if he borrowed the apostrophe in his sentence that wasn't necessary, and put it in her sentence where it was, it might have been clearer ;):D

[dullbird]

Exactly her point... ;)


thank you shonky!!!

[dullbird]

if he borrowed the apostophe in his setnence that wasn't necessary, and put it in her sentence where it was, it might have been clearer ;):D


there is always one :no2:

tell me did you not know what I was implying?

[Slunnie]

Sadly, you're probably right Slunnie.

Have a Happy New Year anyhow:p
Hey thanks for this Bundalene!

I hope you both also have a good New Years.

[waynep]

there is always one :no2:

tell me did you not know what I was implying?

sorry ...slow day at work

[zulu Delta 534]

We need mor headlines like this! This will enthuse and encourage thousands of city based academic youths, filling them with great deals of hope and enthusiasm to assist them carry on with their education in preparation to qualifying for some job that hopefully will transport a minor percentage of them out into the real world to actually see first hand how futile and utterly ridiculous decisions such as this tend to be.
The wonderful thing about declaring National Parks and their ilk (in todays political climate) is that we are "preserving our natural heritage for our youth", and that thought is to be commended, but unfortunately our youth are never going to to see the things that we have saved because public access will have been closed off in the name of protection!
Some headlines make me a lot more comfortable with the fact that I am on the downhiull side of 65, as against being on the way in, and this is one of those. Is it age that makes one more cynical or is it having simply seen the wheel do the whole revolution before?
Personally it doesn't reall worry me what they do now as I spent three months last year following the Murray from source to mouth with our car, caravan and kayak and I thoroughly enjoyed the experience. I'm alright Jack!
Regards
Glen

[Slunnie]

We need mor headlines like this! This will enthuse and encourage thousands of city based academic youths, filling them with great deals of hope and enthusiasm to assist them carry on with their education in preparation to qualifying for some job that hopefully will transport a minor percentage of them out into the real world to actually see first hand how futile and utterly ridiculous decisions such as this tend to be.
The wonderful thing about declaring National Parks and their ilk (in todays political climate) is that we are "preserving our natural heritage for our youth", and that thought is to be commended, but unfortunately our youth are never going to to see the things that we have saved because public access will have been closed off in the name of protection!
Some headlines make me a lot more comfortable with the fact that I am on the downhiull side of 65, as against being on the way in, and this is one of those. Is it age that makes one more cynical or is it having simply seen the wheel do the whole revolution before?
Personally it doesn't reall worry me what they do now as I spent three months last year following the Murray from source to mouth with our car, caravan and kayak and I thoroughly enjoyed the experience. I'm alright Jack!
Regards
Glen
Glen, you were young once too with all of lifes options before you - it's not all doom and gloom for the youth. :p

[zulu Delta 534]

The big difference is that when I was young I was allowed to do and see things that are being denied tomorrows generation in the misguided name of preservation!
Glen

[gruntfuttock]

I have heard that the barma forest is now locked to all. No access at all.

Also rumors have it that ALL camping spots along the Murray will be off limits now.

I just wonder if the murray is a N.P. Can we still fish in it? I ask this as a friend of mine was shooting feral pigs in a national park from his property. They fined him, as they said "All animals are protected in a NP and cannot be hunted or killed" This was some years ago, so things may have changed.

[Bushie]

I just wonder if the murray is a N.P. Can we still fish in it?


If the increase in NP was announced by Vic, - don't worry as the Murray is in NSW.


Martyn

[gruntfuttock]

In some ways it is good though, as there have been reports of people emptying their W.C's direct into the Murray.

BUT while it may protect some things, wake boarders are a major cause of bank erosion above Yarrawonga and is not going to change. Even the mayor of Corowa is worried about it.

[EchiDna]

...wake boarders....

or perhaps more correctly the boats that tow them? water skiing the Murray river has been going on for decades, it aint anything new but I reckon the economic downturn will put many owners of ski boats off spending $200+ per day on fuel to tow the kiddies around for a few hours.