my 1st LR could this be a lemon?

[2keen]

hi, just found this 2001 Land Rover Discovery II 01MY Td5 Royal Blue. 5 Speed Manual Wagon. TURBO INTERCOOLED DIESEL. don't no how many k's but have just emailed and asked it's got $10 990 asking price for it, does this seem really cheap, want it for touring, weekend toy, will be doin the usual mods susp, tyres etc, etc. is the td5 ok or am i better of lookin for later model 300tdi as they are not as computerised. is workin on a td5 hard or do-able by your average diy'er. it's near melbourne can any 1 recommend a good LR mech to do a pre purchase as i live in norhtern nsw. any info would be very greatful 4. cheers.

[George130]

Well that's a can of worms!
TD5 is better on power and fuel consumption over a TDI.
Parts are more exy. Oil and filters cost more but are done less frequently so it works out.
You can do the maintenance yourself but the TD5 does like to be looked after. A lot of people will say go the TDI and a lot will so go the TD5. It comes down to preference.

[dullbird]

I have to say that does seem a little cheap......for a deisel

[87County]

it does seem that down is the direction prices are heading... fast !!!



I have to say that does seem a little cheap......for a deisel

[Slunnie]

Well that's a can of worms!
TD5 is better on power and fuel consumption over a TDI.
Parts are more exy. Oil and filters cost more but are done less frequently so it works out.
You can do the maintenance yourself but the TD5 does like to be looked after. A lot of people will say go the TDI and a lot will so go the TD5. It comes down to preference.
Are parts more exy? I've never bought Tdi parts, but I thought the air and oil filter were very similar. The TD5 does have the centrifuge though. Whats the difference in oil? I just changed mine yesterday and put 7.5 litres of engine oil into it, but again am not sure what the tdi uses. I also always thought the Tdi got better economy, but I guess thats no surprises considering how much power they dont make. :D The TD5 then runs the same transmission, transfer and diff lube specs as the Tdi. Really the TD5 should be a little cheaper with the longer service intervals but as you say, there wont be much in it.


Oh, make sure it has the centre diff lock nut on the transfer case.

[Chilly]

Have you asked how many K's it has done?

I inquired about one at a dealer in Melbourne, same colour etc, and it had over 300,000k's.

[chunk]

I just looked at a 2000 Disco TD5 bullbar new winch driving lights. 172,000 km $14,990. So I think you will find that the one your looking at has a lot of k's on it.

[mcrover]

Cant believe im going to say this as im going to cop a lot of flack for it but.......What is the best Disco 2 to be looking for.

I had a drive of Rangiemans new Deefa the other day and other than being manual (I have buggered knee's so cant work heavy clutch pedals for very long anymore) it went like a rocket.

Ive been looking over my poor old Disco over the last 2 days and some rust is coming through in places I dont want it to as well as things are getting tired but it's only done 317,000kms.

I very much doubt that a 300 Tdi would get the same power as the TD5 BUT....I dont really think that it is all that nessesary either.

I would love a Deefa but there is the problem with them being manual and the other with me being.......FAT and so I struggle to get comfy though the Extreme seat felt good and the park brake wasnt hitting the permanent bruise from all the times Ive driven older Deefas in the past.

SO.....unless someone has an around 2001 Deefa extreme with auto conversion done for a very reasonable price, what should I be looking for in one of those good for nothing D2's.....or should I just go back to a Landcruiser :twisted:

[dullbird]

Cant believe im going to say this as im going to cop a lot of flack for it but.......What is the best Disco 2 to be looking for.

I had a drive of Rangiemans new Deefa the other day and other than being manual (I have buggered knee's so cant work heavy clutch pedals for very long anymore) it went like a rocket.

Ive been looking over my poor old Disco over the last 2 days and some rust is coming through in places I dont want it to as well as things are getting tired but it's only done 317,000kms.

I very much doubt that a 300 Tdi would get the same power as the TD5 BUT....I dont really think that it is all that nessesary either.

I would love a Deefa but there is the problem with them being manual and the other with me being.......FAT and so I struggle to get comfy though the Extreme seat felt good and the park brake wasnt hitting the permanent bruise from all the times Ive driven older Deefas in the past.

SO.....unless someone has an around 2001 Deefa extreme with auto conversion done for a very reasonable price, what should I be looking for in one of those good for nothing D2's
.....or should I just go back to a Landcruiser :twisted:

I didn't know landcruisers were Auto! :o:)

[mcrover]

I didn't know landcruisers were Auto! :o:)

My last 80 series sahara was......:D

[rovercare]

My last 80 series sahara was......:D

1hd-t with an A440:cool:

Shame about the economy:mad:

[Slunnie]

Cant believe im going to say this as im going to cop a lot of flack for it but.......What is the best Disco 2 to be looking for.

I had a drive of Rangiemans new Deefa the other day and other than being manual (I have buggered knee's so cant work heavy clutch pedals for very long anymore) it went like a rocket.

Ive been looking over my poor old Disco over the last 2 days and some rust is coming through in places I dont want it to as well as things are getting tired but it's only done 317,000kms.

I very much doubt that a 300 Tdi would get the same power as the TD5 BUT....I dont really think that it is all that nessesary either.

I would love a Deefa but there is the problem with them being manual and the other with me being.......FAT and so I struggle to get comfy though the Extreme seat felt good and the park brake wasnt hitting the permanent bruise from all the times Ive driven older Deefas in the past.

SO.....unless someone has an around 2001 Deefa extreme with auto conversion done for a very reasonable price, what should I be looking for in one of those good for nothing D2's.....or should I just go back to a Landcruiser :twisted:
IMHO probably the 2000-2001 and then the 2003+ facelifted ones.

I just say thing because the 99's were the first batch, the late 2001-2002 didnt have the CDL nut on the transfer and the 2003+ had everything and were probably the best of the bunch - these are also flash upgradable.

I wouldn't have thought an early ZF onto the TD5 Deefa would be complex - that said, I've never done it.

[mcrover]

1hd-t with an A440:cool:

Shame about the economy:mad:

OOoooh yeah.....what economy :mad:

The best we got was about 15l/100kms but then again, we only had it a short time before a drongo in a 1 tonner decided to pull out infront of Amanda from a side street on Halam rd and turned it into a bannana :mad:

[mcrover]

IMHO probably the 2000-2001 and then the 2003+ facelifted ones.

I just say thing because the 99's were the first batch, the late 2001-2002 didnt have the CDL nut on the transfer and the 2003+ had everything and were probably the best of the bunch - these are also flash upgradable.

I wouldn't have thought an early ZF onto the TD5 Deefa would be complex - that said, I've never done it.

Thanks Slunnie.

Im not a fan of buying a new car and then pulling it apart to make it fit so I doubt we will end up with a Deefa.

[B92 8NW]

1hd-t with an A440:cool:

Shame about the economy:mad:

I don' reckon Toyota got the diesel/auto combo as right as LR did at the time. Besides any rolling speed over 30 and the 1hdt pulled 5th anyway:cool:

Ahh, this is how the Roman empire fell:D

[mcrover]

I don' reckon Toyota got the diesel/auto combo as right as LR did at the time. Besides any rolling speed over 30 and the 1hdt pulled 5th anyway:cool:

Ahh, this is how the Roman empire fell:D

I feel dirty considering a TD5 D2 but I dont really want to be driving a Toyota again, I loved it but it did have it's badpoints and they were many in comparison.

A 2003+ D2 looks to be anywhere between $24,000 and $35,000 ish so it will probably be another year or so before we could consider one by the looks of it. as I would want to be able to afford the extras (Bull Bar, cargo barrier and the other stuff which I wont be able to transfer over.

I thought the Toy auto pulled and drove nice, it tended to hold the higher ratio's longer and didnt like windy stuff all that much, but plenty of go.

[abaddonxi]

I feel dirty considering a TD5 D2 but I dont really want to be driving a Toyota again, I loved it but it did have it's badpoints and they were many in comparison.

A 2003+ D2 looks to be anywhere between $24,000 and $35,000 ish so it will probably be another year or so before we could consider one by the looks of it. as I would want to be able to afford the extras (Bull Bar, cargo barrier and the other stuff which I wont be able to transfer over.

I thought the Toy auto pulled and drove nice, it tended to hold the higher ratio's longer and didnt like windy stuff all that much, but plenty of go.

Talk about a new year's resolution.

There's going to be a lot of posts that have to be edited.

:D

Simon

[2keen]

found out haw many k's it had was bout 340 000 but it's sold newayz thanks for your input got abit of topic but thanks all the same. might start lookin 4 a 300tdi cause wana b able to work on it my self is it true 97 300tdi is the one 2 go 4.

[Xavie]

found out haw many k's it had was bout 340 000 but it's sold newayz thanks for your input got abit of topic but thanks all the same. .

hhahaha.... it always gets off topic on aulro.... you were gone for to long!

[Slunnie]

There's no reason why you cant work on any of them yourself. An engine is still an engine, a gearbox is still a gearbox and a diff is still a diff, they still have a fuel pump in the fuel tank and a starter motor on the side. When I serviced my Disco yesterday..... well, the only thing that I did differently to any other car that I've owned was to change the oil filtering centrifuge also - and thats a good thing. They really are not a complex vehicle and like the 3.5 V8, 3.9V8, 4.0V8 and 4.6V8 the TD5 has a little black box (actually its silver) beside it that plugs into the motor and tells it when to squirt fuel (and a few other things). Nobody bats an eyelid about the electronics in the V8, but freak about the TD5's thinking its all going to melt down as soon as you hit dirt. This is just my opinion to clarify, not at all to deter you from buying a 300Tdi (BTW, I'd get a 98 as it was the newest).

[UncleHo]

G'day 2Keen :)

A good 300TDI auto would be that way to go, 97/98 about 200K or below, or a very good 96 facelift dash model The autos don't drop off the power band when changing like a manual will do, and a better towing vehicle, easy to work on, same basic block as earlier motors and mech injection, just make sure there is written evidence of when the timing belt was last changed, (needs to be changed at 80,000klm intervals) wheel bearings are easier to service than the D2, good hunting, BTW check out the "Markets" on this site ;)

cheers

[rangieman]

Cant believe im going to say this as im going to cop a lot of flack for it but.......What is the best Disco 2 to be looking for.

I had a drive of Rangiemans new Deefa the other day and other than being manual (I have buggered knee's so cant work heavy clutch pedals for very long anymore) it went like a rocket.

Ive been looking over my poor old Disco over the last 2 days and some rust is coming through in places I dont want it to as well as things are getting tired but it's only done 317,000kms.

I very much doubt that a 300 Tdi would get the same power as the TD5 BUT....I dont really think that it is all that nessesary either.

I would love a Deefa but there is the problem with them being manual and the other with me being.......FAT and so I struggle to get comfy though the Extreme seat felt good and the park brake wasnt hitting the permanent bruise from all the times Ive driven older Deefas in the past.

SO.....unless someone has an around 2001 Deefa extreme with auto conversion done for a very reasonable price, what should I be looking for in one of those good for nothing D2's.....or should I just go back to a Landcruiser :twisted:
:eek2::censored::burnrubber::Rolling::TakeABow::Ro lling::Thump:
I just had to quote you before you deleted it!
I still dont believe you wrote that , what has come over you boy:angel:

[rovercare]

:eek2::censored::burnrubber::Rolling::TakeABow::Ro lling::Thump:
I just had to quote you before you deleted it!
I still dont believe you wrote that , what has come over you boy:angel:

I must say, its taken him to a new level of hypocrosy:eek:

[B92 8NW]

I must say, its taken him to a new level of hypocrosy:eek:

It's quite a common human theme, we all come full circle eventually. Like Jack van Tongeren - big white supremecist but it turned out he was part Indonesian. Like all the kids at high school who are ridiculously homophobic, then BAM, first year uni, out like a light:D.

[rovercare]

It's quite a common human theme, we all come full circle eventually. Like Jack van Tongeren - big white supremecist but it turned out he was part Indonesian. Like all the kids at high school who are ridiculously homophobic, then BAM, first year uni, out like a light:D.

:eek:Glad I never went to Uni:p

[rangieman]

I must say, its taken him to a new level of hypocrosy:eek:
Im sure he is belting his head against a brick wall somewhere (not that it will help):p

[B92 8NW]

Im sure he is belting his head against a brick wall somewhere (not that it will help):p

I'd say the allure of horsepower can change anyone's mind. You power hound:D

[rangieman]

I'd say the allure of horsepower can change anyone's mind. You power hound:D
Oops not me ;)

[Ralph1Malph]

found out haw many k's it had was bout 340 000 but it's sold newayz thanks for your input got abit of topic but thanks all the same. might start lookin 4 a 300tdi cause wana b able to work on it my self is it true 97 300tdi is the one 2 go 4.

Welcome to the forum.
I hope you stick around, Ron is gunna eat you for breakfast!:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:.
Seriously, great site, lots of knowledge.

Cheers, all the best
Ralph

[rangieman]

found out haw many k's it had was bout 340 000 but it's sold newayz thanks for your input got abit of topic but thanks all the same. might start lookin 4 a 300tdi cause wana b able to work on it my self is it true 97 300tdi is the one 2 go 4.
That wouldnt be the one jansens in melb had for sale would it
If it was be very carefull of this mob:wasntme:

[2keen]

ya it was at jansen4x4 are they dodgy thort they might have been due to their prices but still lookin 4 my disco can't wait 2get into 1 hopefully late model 300tdi manual.:cool:

[Grumbles]

Q - Rangieman- If it was be very carefull of this mob:wasntme:-Q

x2

[mcrover]

:eek2::censored::burnrubber::Rolling::TakeABow::Ro lling::Thump:
I just had to quote you before you deleted it!
I still dont believe you wrote that , what has come over you boy:angel:

It's yout bloody fault.....:p


I must say, its taken him to a new level of hypocrosy:eek:


Matt it's called a changing of mind due to the current want/need for something bigger and more powerful....:D

Im still not a fan of all the electronics in the D2's but atleast I have the ability to fix it myself, my mate Steve who bought one hates it because it is always in getting something fixed and of course because of that recons all Landrovers are crap...