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Jock The Rock
5th January 2009, 07:43 PM
Gday

Pulled my fuel tank out today to put the tank guard on.

On a standard tank there is second skin. Ill let the pictures tell the story. But basically I had a pin hole rusted through, and ended up putting another tank in.

Pretty sure this second skin is on all tanks

So just something to look out for

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1371.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1372.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1373.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1374.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1375.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1376.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1377.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1378.jpg

long stroke
5th January 2009, 07:54 PM
yep same thing happened to us, we just left the guard off after we replaced it.

CHEERS TIM.

Reads90
5th January 2009, 08:05 PM
Yeah same problem with the 90's fuel tank hence why we had to get it welded up in Alice Springs

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/03/992.jpg

Jock The Rock
6th January 2009, 08:26 PM
Well :mad: The tank I put in, has a bloody hole in it as well, so going to have to get one welded up; thinking the original one and just have a new bottom welded in :)

Then just have to put it back in :(

Cameron_Def
7th January 2009, 10:14 AM
Well :mad: The tank I put in, has a bloody hole in it as well, so going to have to get one welded up; thinking the original one and just have a new bottom welded in :)

Then just have to put it back in :(

Great fun isnt it :(

dmdigital
7th January 2009, 10:21 AM
Another reason why plastic tanks make sense.

Xavie
7th January 2009, 10:49 AM
Yeah, very common. I had been told a good way to combat it is to inject silicone all through the dead space. Don't know how easy that would be though.

Shonky
7th January 2009, 11:01 AM
Loving the NT spec safety gear... :lol:

Bearman
7th January 2009, 11:15 AM
I replaced mine years ago and the new on did not have the second skin/protector alias rust starter. Although I think its beneficial to have the second skin I dont think its worth it as they all rust between the skins.

Jock The Rock
8th January 2009, 04:35 PM
No one up here is prepared to weld a new bottom in my tank :(

So rang up for a new one, $420. Bugger that

More calls later

Found someone who is prepared to do some soldering for me, so Ill post up pictures once its done

So unless anyone has some smart relatively cheap ideas? Plastic tanks? Anything ..... :)

dmdigital
8th January 2009, 04:59 PM
No one up here is prepared to weld a new bottom in my tank :(

So rang up for a new one, $420. Bugger that

More calls later

Found someone who is prepared to do some soldering for me, so Ill post up pictures once its done

So unless anyone has some smart relatively cheap ideas? Plastic tanks? Anything ..... :)
Got to be one somewhere have you tried any of the LR wreckers like TRS or British Offroad. Mind you $20 doesn't sound that expensive... Have you priced a tank from Long Ranger or similar? I think that will knock you over.

Jock The Rock
8th January 2009, 05:30 PM
Got to be one somewhere have you tried any of the LR wreckers like TRS or British Offroad. Mind you $20 doesn't sound that expensive... Have you priced a tank from Long Ranger or similar? I think that will knock you over.

Just in the process of cleaning it up for soldering. Thinking I might just do the soldering as a temporary fix and wait for a second hand one to come up.

The irony is, I bought a second hand one for my old Defender and had it sitting under the house. Thinking I would never use it, I sold it about a fortnight ago :mad:

Ill keep a look out for one, and if anyone sees one could they please tell me :)

Thanks

dmdigital
8th January 2009, 05:35 PM
Just reread my post...

Yeah $20 doesn't sound much... must have missed the 4. Even so $420 doesn't sound too bad a price. A 45L aux tank from OL is more than that:(

c.h.i.e.f
8th January 2009, 05:56 PM
yeah that happened to mine i had a bad leak under mine for a few months so we took it out and it was rusting down along the weld and then under the outer skin so we took it to a guy and he patched it up (a guy who also does radiators) and then took an extra precaution by putting silicon down all the seams and then painted the tank,then cleaned out the tank (wich tooks ages of blowing out with a vaccume cleaner) then before we put the tank back up we sprayed the whole back end with (i forget the name of it) a thick black tacky rust preventative paint then put the tank back up, she is as good as new "for now" touch wood.

Jock The Rock
8th January 2009, 06:21 PM
Just finished :), more :( actually. Found 4 holes rather than just the 1

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1174.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1175.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1176.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1177.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1178.jpg

Cap
8th January 2009, 06:37 PM
So are Discos the same? Wondering if I should pull the cover off and check condition...

rick130
8th January 2009, 06:40 PM
I had all the means of welding, brazing and soldering plus nitrogen to purge the tank with but wimped out and epoxied up the bottom then re-painted.

Been fine for the last two years.

malleefowl
8th January 2009, 06:42 PM
I have one from my98 defender that was removed to fit the long rangeBD one.
It's in good nick and free to anyone who needs one.I'm near Mildura NW VIC though
Cheers,
Mary

rijidij
8th January 2009, 06:50 PM
Found 4 holes rather than just the 1

I had the same on my County.........thought there was just 1 hole until I wire brushed it all back.
I ended up using POR15 'Metal Ready' and 'Tank Seal' on the inside and outside of the tank. PPC - Tank Sealer (http://ppc.au.com/coatings_sealer.htm) POR15 make some excellent products.
26,000 kms since the repair including 8000 kms of Outback and no problems.


Before and After

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1172.jpg https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1173.jpg

sclarke
8th January 2009, 06:55 PM
Yep, mine went also....

Pulled it apart... and cleaned it up and then used Liquid metal....
Then rust killed thge whole tank....

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1170.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/1171.jpg


Injecting silicon does Squat... it wont stick to dirty metal..

Jock The Rock
12th January 2009, 09:26 PM
Got the new one in. My welder ended up cutting a new bottom and just welding it over the top of the bottom (if that makes sense ;) )

All for the price of two 6 packs :)

I would have to say the most bloody annoying thing, in possibly the whole world is doing up the nut that joins the tank pickup, to the hose :mad:

Applied a couple of coats of Kill Rust Primer then a coat of Gloss black enamel :twisted: so should be all good for another while :)

Havent had a chance to check its not leaking, only got home at 9:30 and most of the Servos were shut :(

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/945.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/946.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/947.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/948.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/949.jpg

100I
12th January 2009, 10:57 PM
So are Discos the same? Wondering if I should pull the cover off and check condition...
Disco should be plastic and has two straps and no tin plate.