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gunsports
5th January 2009, 11:34 PM
I plan to fit a second under seat diesel tank to my SIIa Land Rover and have received from a mate, a Selectrol fuel selector valve, made by Weathergead USA, model 6795. However, the inner plumbing is missing. Has anyone knowledge of this switch and perhaps, could provide a diagram or photo of its inner workings? I have enginnering skills and could prabably make the parts if I know what they look like.
Thanks
JDNSW
6th January 2009, 06:08 AM
All Series Landrovers I have seen here have a simple two way tap, with a separate switch for the gauge. These have not been diesel, but the return line problem could be dealt with by simply linking the breathers to function as an overflow line.
John
gunsports
6th January 2009, 04:16 PM
Guess one forgets the simple solutions are always the best. Thanks for the advice
Aaron IIA
8th January 2009, 07:28 PM
I have a second tank in my Diesel SIIA. I have no selection valve. I use a SU lift pump to lift the fuel from the second tank to the main tank. This then drains into the main tank via the breather line. The least amount of plumbing is the most reliable plumbing.
Aaron.
gunsports
8th January 2009, 09:30 PM
Aaron, tks for the info. I had that system on a MB Gelandewagen 300D but it was problematic. I bought the car fitted with the extra tanks and fuel used to slosh between tanks and give erratic fuel guage readings. In one instance, I actually starved the engine while driving on a slope and had to re prime the system. Perhaps the plumbing was just badly done.
G.G. Sprock
14th January 2009, 12:06 AM
Hello All,
 
One of the issues you will have if you use the breather lines in a ganged together setting is that the fuel will always follow the path of least resistance.  In that case, you could be taking fuel from one tank and returning to the other with the potential of overflowing the smaller tank and running out of juice as well.
 
So my suggestion would be to have a dual gang valve which covers both the feed and return lines.  I am in the same situation with my 1965 109 Diesel Wagon and will likely make my own valve (I am a machine shop teacher and have a great shop to utilize.)  If this is the case, I will be happy to share the drawings so you can have your own valve made by a local machine shop or might market what we make ;-)
 
Best regards,
 
Greg
JDNSW
14th January 2009, 06:04 AM
Hello All,
 
One of the issues you will have if you use the breather lines in a ganged together setting is that the fuel will always follow the path of least resistance.  In that case, you could be taking fuel from one tank and returning to the other with the potential of overflowing the smaller tank and running out of juice as well.
This would not be a problem with the dual under seat tanks provided the standard filler is fitted both sides as with the Australian Army 2as, as the filler is about a foot above the level of the vent on the tank (the LH filler hose is not available, but a RH one can be used by cutting it and putting in a short length of pipe with two clamps). The link would, of course, be as low as possible.
 
So my suggestion would be to have a dual gang valve which covers both the feed and return lines.  I am in the same situation with my 1965 109 Diesel Wagon and will likely make my own valve (I am a machine shop teacher and have a great shop to utilize.)  If this is the case, I will be happy to share the drawings so you can have your own valve made by a local machine shop or might market what we make ;-)
 
Best regards,
 
Greg
The setup for diesels in the parts book shows two separate two way valves, one with an extra arm on the shaft, linked by a bar (with a pivot each end) to the arm on the second tap. The two taps are apparently mounted about four inches apart vertically, shafts horizontal, the second tap on a bracket attached to the first. The normal position for the tap on the 2a is on the front of the seat box between the handbrake and the transmission tunnel.
John
JDNSW
14th January 2009, 06:21 AM
Hello All,
 
One of the issues you will have if you use the breather lines in a ganged together setting is that the fuel will always follow the path of least resistance.  In that case, you could be taking fuel from one tank and returning to the other with the potential of overflowing the smaller tank and running out of juice as well.
This would not be a problem with the dual under seat tanks provided the standard filler is fitted both sides as with the Australian Army 2as, as the filler is about a foot above the level of the vent on the tank (the LH filler hose is not available, but a RH one can be used by cutting it and putting in a short length of pipe with two clamps). The link would, of course, be as low as possible.
 
So my suggestion would be to have a dual gang valve which covers both the feed and return lines.  I am in the same situation with my 1965 109 Diesel Wagon and will likely make my own valve (I am a machine shop teacher and have a great shop to utilize.)  If this is the case, I will be happy to share the drawings so you can have your own valve made by a local machine shop or might market what we make ;-)
 
Best regards,
 
Greg
The setup for diesels in the parts book shows two separate two way valves, one with an extra arm on the shaft, linked by a bar (with a pivot each end) to the arm on the second tap. The two taps are apparently mounted about four inches apart vertically, shafts horizontal, the second tap on a bracket attached to the first. The normal position for the tap on the 2a is on the front of the seat box between the handbrake and the transmission tunnel.
John
numpty
14th January 2009, 04:52 PM
Seems as though I have been here before, before, before.;)
Dinty
14th January 2009, 04:56 PM
G'day All, I had been down this road a long time ago, my solution was to have a spill return to the main tank only, I used fuel from this tank 1st, then by using a simple 2 way tap switched to the other tank, the spill return went to the main tank only, it worked for me then and why wouldn't it work now cheers Dennis:angel:
G.G. Sprock
15th January 2009, 02:48 AM
Hi John,
 
Could you scan the photos from the book? I might be able to replicate it :-)
 
Best wishes,
Greg
JDNSW
15th January 2009, 06:01 AM
Hi John,
 
Could you scan the photos from the book? I might be able to replicate it :-)
 
Best wishes,
Greg
Your wish is my command. Apologies for the quality - I perhaps should have used higher resolution!
John
G.G. Sprock
15th January 2009, 07:43 AM
Indeed! If you can make it a bit higher resolution, perhaps it would be legible :-)
 
If this forum won't accept a larger file, please send it to my personal account ggsprock@hotmail.com where such things are not an issue.
JDNSW
15th January 2009, 08:34 AM
Indeed! If you can make it a bit higher resolution, perhaps it would be legible :-)
 
If this forum won't accept a larger file, please send it to my personal account ggsprock@hotmail.com where such things are not an issue.
I have cut it down to just the tap arrangement.
John
isuzurover
15th January 2009, 08:50 AM
I have a IIA diesel. When the original (military) brass cone valve died, I fitted a stainless ball valve with a teflon seat - works well and simple. 
Like dinty - I just ran the return to the DS tank. I just make sure to use the DS tank first, then switch to the PS tank, then back to the DS tank to use the returned fuel. This is usually about 1/4 of a tank, but can be more if I am just pottering around in the bush in low range.
G.G. Sprock
16th January 2009, 01:06 AM
Hi John,
 
Got the enlarged version - thanks.  I would like to work with "OEM" setups (in-as-much as my Rover is going to be an OEM vehicle.)
 
I'll let you know how it turns out.
 
Thanks again,
 
Greg
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