Help needed with Warn FWH

[wizzid]

Hi, just swapping over free wheel hubs on the shorty resto from Selectro to some good ex Army Warns. I thought this would be a plus:cool: but because the Warn hub is so deep I can not seem to get a start on the split pin which locks the castleated locking ring to end of half shaft. I have cut a couple of split pins shorter to fit however it leaves nothing to bend over to retain the ring. Did Warn supply some special clip? May have to resort to piece 12g fence wire:( Any clues?.......Thanks Pat.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Have some news for you. The Army never used FW hubs so they couldn't be ex-Army.

[Phoenix]

The castelated nut does fit a normal split pin if it is the square one, but if it is the round castelated nut, there is a special clip.

ARB stores should be able to get you a seal kit for the FWH (make sure you say how many splines) and that contains seals, screws and those clips.

[wizzid]

Have some news for you. The Army never used FW hubs so they couldn't be ex-Army.


This may so, however they WERE in a job lot of used ex military Land Rover parts that came from the Moorebank auctions..... Pat

[THE BOOGER]

the auctions are now run by civvies not everthing there is x army was looking at the cat for next auction they even have a hagglend ambo:D

[Phoenix]

I saw that haglunds, that would be a fun toy!!

Wether they are military or not, they have their uses. I have them on my army series 3. However the parts books for the army land rovers do not contain free wheeling hubs. It may have been a local area trial however?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

<snip> ... Wether they are military or not, they have their uses. I have them on my army series 3. However the parts books for the army land rovers do not contain free wheeling hubs. It may have been a local area trial however?Phoenix

I used to have FWH on a number of vehicles and have a couple of pairs that I could fit to my FFR and SIIBs however I now believe there are few advantages and far more disadvantages. I have never found any difference in fuel consumption.
The steering is no lighter.
The lack of rotation of the axles doesn't lubricate the Railco bushes in the swivels.
Similarly the top of the diff crownwheel doesn't stay lubricated and can rust.
The front propeller shaft wears in a single plane (with the suspension movements) and subsequently causes vibrations in the drivetrain when the FWH are locked.
If you break a rear diff or axle on a hill in traffic (has happened to me) your handbrake doesn't work and you can't put it into 4WD to get out of the traffic. You have to sit there with your foot on the brake until someone with road rage comes to bash on your door, then you can ask them to engage your FWH.

[Phoenix]

I agree with what you have posted Diana, and I suspect that my front propshaft may have the same problem. However I usually leave the hubs locked for all of those reasons.

The trouble comes down to ANZAC day for me. On ANZAC day our club carrys diggers that want a ride, and I have a platform to carry the wreaths form the RSL to the cenotaph. The drive to the cenotaph I have done in 1st low usually, meaning 4wd if it wetre not for the fwh. I don't know if I'll need to do that with the 2.6 in place, i'll have to see.

I did contemplate a modified set of drive flanges, but as I don't even have a single pair at this stage, I'm leaving them in place untill at least after anzac day. But I do want to revert to flanges.

[Aaron IIA]

Similarly the top of the diff crownwheel doesn't stay lubricated and can rust.
The front propeller shaft wears in a single plane (with the suspension movements) and subsequently causes vibrations in the drivetrain when the FWH are locked.


A previous owner or mechanic has enlargened the clutch bleeding hole on one of my Land Rovers such that it now extends to the floor. I can now watch the front propellor shaft while I am driving along. It turns at approximately 10 rpm when driving at highway speed. I am therefore not worried about the propellor shaft wearing in one plane, nor the crownwheel rusting. I do conceed that this will not provide enough oil splash to lubricate the top steering bush. I own a Land Rover to use it, so I use the driven front axle quite regularily, so this will not present a problem.

My FWH have a special clip instead of a splitpin.

Aaron.

[wizzid]

the auctions are now run by civvies not everthing there is x army was looking at the cat for next auction they even have a hagglend ambo:D

Gday Booger, yep I understand that one. I dont know how long the auctions have been contracted out, I purchased these in 1990 they came with pair Mill 110/Perentie doors and seats that I was chasing. I guess as Phoenix said they may have been for special use.