Roof Lining

[onemore]

I am now on my fourth Classic and was lucky with the previous models that the roof lining didn't fall away, however on my current '93 model my luck has run out and the lining is starting to fall away from the rear of the vehicle.

My question please:

Is this an easy fix for a Land Rover specialist?

Regards,
Mike

[p38arover]

It's so easy I wouldn't use an LR specialist. Go straight to a motor trimmer (auto upholsterer), do not pass Go, do not collect $200. Otherwise you pay the LR guy for his time plus the trimmer. Cut out the middle man.

[2_door]

I am now on my fourth Classic and was lucky with the previous models that the roof lining didn't fall away, however on my current '93 model my luck has run out and the lining is starting to fall away from the rear of the vehicle.

My question please:

Is this an easy fix for a Land Rover specialist?

Regards,
Mike

if you are onto your fourth RRC, then I would imagine you are pretty handy at fixing things yourself ;)

the sagging roof lining problem is an easy fix with the proper glues etc. Get down to your local upholsterer and have a chat with them and get some quality glues and you should be able to fix it yourself.

have you a pic of it, what stage and how bad is it?

good luck

[p38arover]

the sagging roof lining problem is an easy fix with the proper glues etc. Get down to your local upholsterer and have a chat with them and get some quality glues and you should be able to fix it yourself.

You are wasting your time if you try to reglue it. The foam backing is breaking down. Been there, tried that.

[mike 90 RR]

You are wasting your time if you try to reglue it. The foam backing is breaking down. Been there, tried that.

X2 :)

[Rangier Rover]

You are wasting your time if you try to reglue it. The foam backing is breaking down. Been there, tried that.

X3. Been there and tried that:(

[PhilipA]

X4 and 5 and 6.
Just paid $350 to get my BMW M3 headlining done in Gosford.
Rangie went a few years ago. I posted a while ago that The BMW had caught the virus.
They all use similar stuff and they all go in about 10-15 years.

I firmly believe it is one job to get an expert to do, as folds, wrinkles etc really make a car look asparagusy.
Regards Philip A

[Scouse]

I'm having a good run with mine :(.
Fitted a brand spanker to my Classic in 2002 & 50% of it is sagging now :mad:.

And now the bloomin' P38 headlining is doing the same, around 30% flapping in the breeze.


At least I might get a group discount from the trimmer if I take both in at once :D.

[p38arover]

At least I might get a group discount from the trimmer if I take both in at once :D.

If you know a good trimmer who'll do a discount for two P38As.....

Actually, one of the forum members is a motor trimmer up in the Blue Mountains - Blackheath I think. I could drop my car there then go to work by train.

[Scouse]

I'm going to get a price from the trimmer we use at work & another one in Granville who is supposed to be good. I'll let you know how I go next week.

[Scouse]

Called into the Granville trimmer this arvo: $110 each if I take the lining out (easy part) & get it to him (harder part).

I'll try the Parramatta one tomorrow but $110 sounds good.

[p38arover]

It certainly sounds good. Are they easy to remove on a P38A?

He does know it has a sunroof?

[Scouse]

According to GTR, it's an easy job. Remove the pillar trims, grab handles, sunvisors, interior lights & alarm sensor & she's out (sounds easy enough).
He asked if it had a sunroof & I said yes. He sounded relieved that I was doing the R&R though :).

He has asked for a sample first so that he can get the correct material in for the job.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

He has asked for a sample first so that he can get the correct material in for the job.

Leopard skin?
:angel:

[p38arover]

He has asked for a sample first so that he can get the correct material in for the job.

Urine sample?

[Scouse]

Well, if Ron want's his in Leopard skin or urine yellow, that's up to him :p.
It might be more than $110 though.

I'm just giving him a sample of my headlining & then a sample from my wallet ;).

[willem]

Well, if Ron want's his in Leopard skin or urine yellow, that's up to him :p.
It might be more than $110 though.

I'm just giving him a sample of my headlining & then a sample from my wallet ;).


You're all mad! :wasntme: :D

A good temporary solution is to use strategically placed staples.

Willem

[p38arover]

You're all mad! :wasntme: :D

A good temporary solution is to use strategically placed staples.

Willem

I want a good looking solution - I like the look of my car! :D:D

[Scouse]

You're all mad! :wasntme: :D

A good temporary solution is to use strategically placed staples.

WillemThat might be all well & good for a poverty pack Range Rover but we have HSEs here :p:p.

[p38arover]

That might be all well & good for a poverty pack Range Rover but we have HSEs here :p:p.

Zackly! :D:D

[UncleHo]

G'day Folks :)

There is/was a guy in Newcastle that used to make fibreglass roof linings for RRC's I haven't got a lead on him but if you contact spinnfx by phone he may be able to help :) (02)49 342 865 you can usually find him in the markets section, he has at the moment some 32x11.5 wheels and tyres:)

cheers

[willem]

Zackly! :D:D

A temporary solution, chaps! It keeps the lining out of your hair until you can get it fixed. If you have hair, that is. :p Or you're not shorty who wouldn't notice! :p

Willem - with the poverty pack Rangie - but at least the aircon works - thanks Ron! :):):):) It was 42C on the Hume going home. That aircon was wonderful!

And its got chrome door handles, which even Ron's HSE hasn't got! :D

[p38arover]

And its got chrome door handles, which even Ron's HSE hasn't got! :D

Soon to be fixed courtesy of Andrew E. :)

[p38arover]

Scouse, can we get together to pull the headlinings out together and deliver them to Granville?

The we can put them both back in together.

[Scouse]

Sure Ron. Any ideas on how/where to do it though? I'll be taking my two in at the same time.


My plan was to see if I can grab some big cardboard boxes (hopefully there's some warranty headlinings at work) & transport them in that.

Otherwise, I can get a large pallet & use that to support the headlinings.

Both the above ideas involve using my 6x4 box trailer as transport.


Do you mind driving your car for a day or two without a lining?
If that's OK, how about removing what you can at home (pillar trims) & then driving down to my work. I can help you remove the lining & then I'll take all three down together.


I know my Classic lining is easy enough to remove by myself & I'm hoping Leslie will be able to help me remove the P38 one so I should be OK removing mine.

BTW, I called by the trimmer in Parramatta but it looks like he's still closed for the Christmas/New Year break :(.

I'll also cut out a sample from my linings today & double check that the trimmer can do a good match on the material.

[p38arover]

No problems with driving without a head lining. I can go to your house and help you with yours.

If one put a cheap blue plastic tarp down in the trailer, that would keep them clean - but boxes would be even better for protection.

[toey1977]

we fix commodore roof linings at work, when they start to fall down, gently peel the material of the cardboard back (once headlineing is out of car) then give it a wash for good measure, clean up any foam backing that might be left on the cardboard (fibergalss) shaping, then go to a automotive store and by some trim adhesive, we use 3m brand, read and follow the instructions on the can it is very important, otherwise the addhisve wont work as it should and you will be back it the same situation in no time. just take your time and keep the materail firm and wrinkle free, and make sure you have clean hands. you will use most if not all of the can of adhisve, buy the pressure pack trim adhisive as it gives a good smooth even coat of glue. but a brush on one works just as well, i hope this helps, and i picked up on the subject right as i didnt have time to read it all and kids and wife are sending me nuts.

[The Mutt]

If you want to re-do your own roof lining:

after it is removed from the vehicle, peal back the material that has dropped, throw it in the bin ... any old foam left behind is a pain

remove any of the old foam from the cardboard backing with a Scotch pad or a bit of course marine carpet

If you go to an Auto trimmer or Upholstering Distributors Aust you can get some new roof lining, Leopard Skin, snake skin, even material with a thin foam already attached, whatever you want, prices vary so know how much you need.

Spray a good quality auto adhesive (we use marine grade) on the roof lining and the now clean cardboard backing, not too wet, your not washing the material.

Be patient, when the glue is tacky your ready to go, I suggest you get help holding one end up while you gently place the other down to make contact, when both pieces come into contact they want to stay together.

After the whole roof lining is laying in place slowly using a one direction wipe, at this time you will be getting any air bubbles, etc out, apply pressure to fully attach the both pieces to make one.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ Good Luck

Glenn

[Scouse]

Be patient, when the glue is tacky your ready to go, I suggest you get help holding one end up while you gently place the other down to make contact, when both pieces come into contact they want to stay together.This part is why I'm leaving mine to a professional :(.

[PaulP38a]

That might be all well & good for a poverty pack Range Rover but we have HSEs here :p:p.

Oi! I have a "Pov Pack" too, but at least my roof lining isn't sagging. :D

You can see from the pic how neat it is, although it seems to be covering the hole where the sunroof should be.. oh, yeah I've got a "Pov Pack" :(

My old HSE did have the sag though, but I could never bring myself to attacking the lining with a staple gun.

[p38arover]

The Mutt must be the man from the Blue Mountains of whom I spoke!

May be a quote from him, too? :angel:

Scouse, as I have to remove the plastic trim, I was going to get mine reflocked by the bloke a couple of doors up from KLR Auto. I spoke to him a while back but he'd prefer to do more than one car's worth of plastics.

Is anyone else looking to get their trims reflocked?

If I had some spare trims, I'd get them done at the same time and then use them for exchange purposes with other P38A owners.

[Scouse]

Oi! I have a "Pov Pack" too, but at least my roof lining isn't sagging. :D

You can see from the pic how neat it is, although it seems to be covering the hole where the sunroof should be.. oh, yeah I've got a "Pov Pack" :(

My old HSE did have the sag though, but I could never bring myself to attacking the lining with a staple gun.Give it time - you're 3-4 years head of us so we'll be the one's laughing in 2013 :p.

BTW, nice dice ;).

[Scouse]

The Mutt must be the man from the Blue Mountains of whom I spoke!

May be a quote from him, too? :angel:

Maybe he can do an 'online' quote for us :).



Hey Ron, only 99% for spelling in 2009 ;).

[The Mutt]

The Mutt must be the man from the Blue Mountains of whom I spoke!

May be a quote from him, too? :angel:

Scouse, as I have to remove the plastic trim, I was going to get mine reflocked by the bloke a couple of doors up from KLR Auto. I spoke to him a while back but he'd prefer to do more than one car's worth of plastics.

Is anyone else looking to get their trims reflocked?

If I had some spare trims, I'd get them done at the same time and then use them for exchange purposes with other P38A owners.

That's right I'm in the Blue Mountains, sorry to say you didn't talk with me.

I don't do roof linings professionally, we do plastic and vinyl repairs on trucks, cars, caravans, motorhomes, etc mostly for insurance, I picked up how to repair roof linings from motor trimmers we work in with.

I only do my own roof linings, too many other things to do at the moment.

I'll ask a couple of trimmers to quote for some of my friends!:D

Glenn

[PaulP38a]

Give it time - you're 3-4 years head of us so we'll be the one's laughing in 2013 :p.

BTW, nice dice ;).

Maybe, maybe not. The roof lining was replaced by the previous owner less than 12 months ago so it should be due again by the time I'm prepared to hand it down to my son, and I'm playing offroad in a 2010 model RR Sport :D

Like the fluffy dice eh? A few bucks at SuperCrap and they are supposedly air fresheners. Put a set in the Suzuki too - very classy indeed :cool:
And to think I considered them so crass in the 1980's... :p

[p38arover]

That's right I'm in the Blue Mountains, sorry to say you didn't talk with me.

True, I didn't.

My words were "The Mutt must be the man from the Blue Mountains of whom I spoke! " not "to whom....." :D:D:D

Thanks, Glenn. I thought I'd seen you mention headlinings once before.

[The Mutt]

True, I didn't.

My words were "The Mutt must be the man from the Blue Mountains of whom I spoke! " not "to whom....." :D:D:D

Thanks, Glenn. I thought I'd seen you mention headlinings once before.

Sorry for the misread .... :o

I might have mentioned before that I shall be doing our rooflining after the motor is sorted, it feels like a bad hair piece when I drive it.

Glenn

[p38arover]

I just did a search. It was Bailey in Blackheath! My apologies Mutt

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/48366-sagging-roof-lining-2.html#post658992

[The Mutt]

No wukkers Ron B

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Glenn

[Scouse]

I'll ask a couple of trimmers to quote for some of my friends!:D

Thanks but don't go out of your way though Glenn. I don't think I can go wrong for $110 locally.

[p38arover]

Not unless Bailey will remove/recover/refit for that price! :D:D

I agree, Scouse. I'm happy with the quote.

[Scouse]

Not unless Bailey will remove/recover/refit for that price! :D:D

And don't forget pick up/deliver too. I ain't driving all that way !!

[p38arover]

And don't forget pick up/deliver too. I ain't driving all that way !!

.... on your way to Oberon/Jenolan/Clarence?

[Scouse]

Well, OK. I suppose I could drop them off.


But I'd expect a discount.

:D:D

[The Mutt]

Thanks but don't go out of your way though Glenn. I don't think I can go wrong for $110 locally.

Not out of the way at all going to the trimmers is part of the job.

Glenn

[Remy]

Maybe you guys can put together a summary document of how to remove the lining from the car once done. I know one exists somewhere just forgotten where i saw it but an updated version might be nice for me when i pull mine sagger out. Wonder what it will cost me down in Wagga?

and x1000 the quick glue trick didn't work for me!

Cheers,
Remy

[The Mutt]

Maybe you guys can put together a summary document of how to remove the lining from the car once done. I know one exists somewhere just forgotten where i saw it but an updated version might be nice for me when i pull mine sagger out. Wonder what it will cost me down in Wagga?

and x1000 the quick glue trick didn't work for me!

Cheers,
Remy

If none already exist I'll doc mine in a few weeks when I have time to do our roof lining.

Glenn

[The Mutt]

We finally got in to see a trimmer mate today, he is in Blacktown and will do a RRC hoodlining for $110.00 if it is already out of the car, he can remove it from your car as well for a bit more. He uses a different material to the foam backed stuff meaning no foam to break down letting the rooflining re-drop.

He is willing to give my mates a discount on other vehicles as well.

Anyone interested can send me a PM for the details.

Glenn

[Scouse]

Thanks for the info Glenn. I'll probably stick with the local trimmer for convenience sake.
I'm just waiting now for him to get his glue sorted out. There's been a bad batch apparently & new headlinings are falling down all over Sydney.

I'll check out which mtype of material 'my' guys uses though & ask about this other type.

[sclarke]

as a quick fix for Dad's car, i droped the cloth on the lining, glued it and drawing pins... does not look perfect, but its ok.........

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

I am now on my fourth Classic and was lucky with the previous models that the roof lining didn't fall away, however on my current '93 model my luck has run out and the lining is starting to fall away from the rear of the vehicle.

My question please:

Is this an easy fix for a Land Rover specialist?

Regards,
Mike

Had my '93 roof lining replaced and my roof console covered for $300 at a trimmer.

Mechanics mechanic, Upholsterers upholster...... :)