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Sleepy
17th January 2009, 12:33 PM
Welll I've pulled the house apart, kicked the cat, accused the dog of eating them and can't find the keys to Olute. :mad::mad::mad::mad:Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

After searching aulro it would appear I can get one cut from the code on the barrel.

Will any good locksmith do this or do I need a specialist?

Thanks in advance.

(Then for the locked fuel cap ....fruit tingling fracken friggen thing!)

Sleepy
17th January 2009, 12:40 PM
Been doing that since 8.18am.

Was going to spend today working on the brakes - can't even get her out of the shed.:angrylock:

Thanks NM - I think I am a little fustrated.:(

Blknight.aus
17th January 2009, 01:02 PM
urmmm, it doesnt have a steering lock does it....

wire from battery to coil positive then crank it with the crank handle.....

it'll drive like that all day..

of course lazy people prefer to just bypass the starter solenoid.

Sleepy
17th January 2009, 01:20 PM
The starter will kick over without the key - so all I've got to do is bypass the ignition key for the time being! Ok back to the shed!

ellard
17th January 2009, 01:37 PM
Hi there

I have a spare lock and barrel etc if you need it.........

All the best

Wayne

101RRS
17th January 2009, 01:40 PM
If you do not find the keys - the code should do it - failing that take the ignition/headlight switch out out take it to the locksmith and they should be able to cut a key to match.

Cheers

Garry

Sleepy
17th January 2009, 01:44 PM
Thanks Wayne.

Hopefully they will turn up but I'm starting to feel they have fallen into a black hole. :angel:

ellard
17th January 2009, 01:47 PM
No problems

PM me if you need them - happy to help out.

All the best

Wayne

dmdigital
17th January 2009, 02:13 PM
Look on the positive side and consider all the things you can do because you don't have an engine immobiliser or a steering lock :)

Imagine if it was a 2009 Defender:(

Sleepy
17th January 2009, 02:17 PM
.......but I have a spare set for my defender!:D













Mental note - make a spare set of keys for Olute!:angel:

Blknight.aus
17th January 2009, 02:21 PM
they will be in one of a few places.

the fridge/freezer
between the seat cushions
behind the big heavy desk you cant see behind, reach behind or shift for fear of the everest of junk falling off.

in the washer/drier with all the other missing socks.

Sleepy
17th January 2009, 08:29 PM
Well I officially give up. Short of xraying the dog I have no idea where they are.:(

I'll talk to a locksmith on Monday.

Thanks for all you suggestions - tried them all - including the fridge:)

How frustrating:mad:

JDNSW
17th January 2009, 09:04 PM
Any qualified locksmith should be able to duplicate them from the code, but you may have to either wait until they get blanks in or shop around to find one with them in stock. They are not exclusive to Landrover, but similar locks were used in many British cars up to the introduction of steering locks, but there are not many of these still about, so demand would be small.

John

digger
17th January 2009, 11:14 PM
did you check the top 3?


ignition?

under bonnet? (just do this before I go in, put keys here.....sort of thing)

tool box???

maybe these are just me... what strides were you wearing when you last had em?

maybe those whistle things arent that bad after all?
or the old servo toilet key trick, attach it to a besser brick!!

good luck...
digger

Shonky
17th January 2009, 11:40 PM
Get a military landy - no keys! :D

p38arover
17th January 2009, 11:41 PM
Look on the positive side and consider all the things you can do because you don't have an engine immobiliser or a steering lock :)

Imagine if it was a 2009 Defender:(

Or my P38A. A dealer changed the lockset and didn't update the LR database with the lockset code. If I lose the key, it's about $1300 in parts plus labour to fix it - a new lockset (3 locks, 2 fobs, 4 door handles, RF receiver, and a reprogram of the BECM (if they can do it in Australia).

It would be cheaper to write the car off and sell it for parts.

Sleepy
18th January 2009, 12:17 AM
did you check the top 3?


ignition? Yup

under bonnet? (just do this before I go in, put keys here.....sort of thing)yeah and under the vehicle and in the back and under the seats and ...

tool box??? and the socket set and in the drawers with the screwdrivers and in my box-o-bits and ...

maybe these are just me... what strides were you wearing when you last had em? yeah check them all and the washing machine and the...(looks in the dryer)....and the dryer




OK
...so you don't lose them again ( or at lest to lessen the possibility)....make a place to put your keys....like a keyboard on the wall and use it and put the keys there every time...that's the most frustrating thing, I have a hook and I use it ...well....

Have you dug under the pile of letters Yup and assorted crap on the kitchen table/bench top yup that everyone seems to have int heir house...the place everything gets dropped on entering the house ( for us its the dining table...hence we never sit at it to eat :D)Yes side table of junk has been cleaned up!


Get a military landy - no keys! :D
I've been thinking of just bypassing the key - permanantly - just hide a kill switch somewhere.


Or my P38A. A dealer changed the lockset and didn't update the LR database with the lockset code. If I lose the key, it's about $1300 in parts plus labour to fix it - a new lockset (3 locks, 2 fobs, 4 door handles, RF receiver, and a reprogram of the BECM (if they can do it in Australia).

It would be cheaper to write the car off and sell it for parts.
:o:eek: - that makes me feel better!

On the bright side I have :

Found my angle grinder
Found my favourite screwdriver bit for my electric drill
Found lots of coins - will go towards the locksmith :p
Numerous pens
My daughter's hair brush
The graphite powder
My old watch
3 padlocks
Cleaned up under the couch and the bed
Cleaned up the "3rd drawer"
Cleaned up the study


(MMMMmmm maybe SWMBO has found a way to make me clean up:twisted:)



Thanks guys :(

chazza
18th January 2009, 07:49 AM
Paul, it may be too long ago but can you recall everything that you did on the day you last saw them? Somewhere in your travels they have been deposited in an unlikely place, as you have searched all of the likely places. I find thinking about everything I did that day or week, often helps me to find things.

Mind you, I once lost my P6 keys for about 2 years and then found them in a box of tek screws in the shed, and last week I found the missing rocker arm for my S1 in a box of new bolts - it made perfect sense how they got there but I found them by accident :(

Do you have small children? When I was 2, I dropped the car keys down the hollow leg of a bed - goodness knows how Mum solved that one!

Cheers Charlie

series1buff
18th January 2009, 11:02 AM
A friend demonstrated how easy it is to hot wire a series 1 ... if the car is wired per the original circuit in the manual.. the two little plugs on the dash are always 'ALIVE '..irrespective of the ignition switch. If keys are lost, you run a short jumper wire from the dash plug to the wiper motor .. this wire provides a path to the ignition circuit because the wiper is wired to the ON side of the IG switch ... drive away !

Mike

The ho har's
18th January 2009, 11:47 AM
ho har lost his house etc keys for 6 months :( got spare ones cut and guess where I found them on our last trip.................in a tissue box in the cubby in the defender:eek:.just a thought look there

Mrs ho har:angel:

Blknight.aus
18th January 2009, 11:52 AM
positive to fuse # 3 does the same in a series III

Aaron IIA
18th January 2009, 02:09 PM
A friend demonstrated how easy it is to hot wire a series 1 ... if the car is wired per the original circuit in the manual.. the two little plugs on the dash are always 'ALIVE '..irrespective of the ignition switch. If keys are lost, you run a short jumper wire from the dash plug to the wiper motor .. this wire provides a path to the ignition circuit because the wiper is wired to the ON side of the IG switch ... drive away !

Mike

This is the same for the SII/SIIA with the single wipers. It is even easier in a deisel vehicle. You do not need to hot wire the vehicle. Just push it and it will go. I can and do start mine with no battery in it at all.

Aaron.

Tombie
18th January 2009, 02:17 PM
Checked in the dunny? On the floor I mean...

I once had nature call... Dropped the strides etc....

Finished the bizzo, got up, buckled up and walked out...

Same issue.. Wheres the damn keys?

Looked everywhere... Drove me crazy...

They turned up at the base of the loo... Fell out whilst the pants were down!

Sleepy
18th January 2009, 02:19 PM
Yup thanks mate - thought of that one too! No Luck.

chazza
18th January 2009, 06:22 PM
Apologies Sleepy for diverging from the little farnarklers - speaking of how easy it is to steal old cars, I once saw a fuel lock in a classic car magazine that was designed to be fitted in the fuel line in a convenient place, such as under the seat where the owner could turn the lock on it with a key. It seems to me to be a very good anti-theft device for a Land-Rover; the trouble is I have no idea whether they are still available. Does anyone here know?

Cheers Charlie

Sleepy
18th January 2009, 08:39 PM
Apologies not necessary Charlie - although looking at this thread, it probably should have gone in the General section. (Mods?)


I am sure fitting a fuel tap in a hidden position would work - or a kill switch etc. (Knowing, me I'd probably forget where it was!:angel:) The old "rotor button in the pocket" trick is a good one too!

digger
18th January 2009, 10:28 PM
Mate hooked a kill switch into foot dimmer switch, still worked as high beam low beam but when starting only (not a kill switch then really is it...) started when highbeam switch held down...

I always thought it was a ripper idea...but the condition of the torry he did it to?....well maybe overkill..... no one was gonna steal it... (as a matter of fact when he sold it to a wrecker, just before he sold it if we had it weighed and it wouldnt get close to what it should have.....lotsa rust..... no back seat, no spare, smaller fuel tank WIRED IN (original damaged so repaired with what was in shed...) ... yeah it was...different.!

cross the boxes when finished......................
I think its time to "scoop the poop" if you have a dog, [ ]
or to get scrappy with the nappy if you have midget people in the house! [ ]
Have you checked shed bin? (gawd knows what may end up wrapped in crap and paper end of a session!) [ ]


cheers
digger


PS I dont know how he went about the wiring but I would assume it wasnt too hard...he isnt into complicated work!!

Sleepy
18th January 2009, 10:37 PM
I think I'll leave the doggy doo alone - Will go and try the shed bin though good idea.

Beside he does it on the lawn :mad: so I'll probably see:D....or step in it!:(

slug_burner
19th January 2009, 12:15 AM
I just ask SWMBO, she usually finds anything that I have lost.

JDNSW
19th January 2009, 06:04 AM
Mate hooked a kill switch into foot dimmer switch, still worked as high beam low beam but when starting only (not a kill switch then really is it...) started when highbeam switch held down...
............

PS I dont know how he went about the wiring but I would assume it wasnt too hard...he isnt into complicated work!!

Bit hard to do with a Series 1 - no starting relay.

A quite effective security device in Series Landrovers is to simply leave the transfer case (and overdrive if fitted) in neutral. Not many car thieves know how to fix the problem these days. And as mentioned, rotor button in pocket.

John

Sleepy
19th January 2009, 07:24 AM
Guess what was sitting on my desk when I got to work.:)

:Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump: :Thump:

p38arover
19th January 2009, 07:52 AM
Guess what was sitting on my desk when I got to work.:)

:Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump: :Thump:


I bet your wife put them there! :mad:


:D:D

series1buff
19th January 2009, 08:59 AM
The other trick that really confuses thieves is to turn the petrol tap to the OFF position - on the petrol filter/bowl on the firewall . 80" have this tap - is it fitted on other Land Rovers ?
Mike

JDNSW
19th January 2009, 11:33 AM
The other trick that really confuses thieves is to turn the petrol tap to the OFF position - on the petrol filter/bowl on the firewall . 80" have this tap - is it fitted on other Land Rovers ?
Mike

Not on anything after Series 1, can't remember whether it is in 86/88, but I think not. (of course you can always install one.....)

John

The ho har's
19th January 2009, 05:07 PM
Guess what was sitting on my desk when I got to work.:)

:Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump: :Thump:



hallelujah


Mrs ho har:angel:

Shonky
19th January 2009, 05:12 PM
LOL! Good work! :lol2:

The ho har's
19th January 2009, 05:47 PM
LOL! Good work! :lol2:


HEY YOU ARE ON THE GOLD COAST HAVING HOLIDAYS WITH SWIMBO:wub::wub:I heard it is the 2nd anniversary haven't you got better things to do:p than get on this forum:wasntme:


Mrs ho har:angel::angel:


PS they are not married.....even better reason not to get on the forum:twisted::wasntme::angel:

101RRS
19th January 2009, 05:48 PM
Guess what was sitting on my desk when I got to work.:)

:Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump::Thump: :Thump:

So what is the story??:D

olmate
19th January 2009, 06:18 PM
Paul,

Of course we will all now want to know what did happen here :D:D:D

Sleepy
19th January 2009, 07:34 PM
So what is the story??:D

Well, beats me.

I must have taken them to work in my jacket pocket and then dropped them without knowing.
The cleaner said she found them on the floor of my office.
This is really weird because I have no reason to take Olute's keys to work.
Oh well.............

I reckon SWMBO arranged this so that I would clean up the shed and study and side table and all my other junk.

Very embarrassment.

Just kicked Olute over ......which put a big smile on my face.:D:D:D

Vrooommmmmm'

I'm one happy landy owner again.

Thank you all for all your support, ideas and sympathy.

I hate loosing things.:mad:

Now on the top of my list is.....

1. Organise a spare set of keys!!!!!!!!!!!