2 litre Diesel

[lro11]

Does anyone here have an original diesel series 1? I have some questions for you.

[ellard]

Hi there

Its a good question - The only one I have seen was at was a Series 1 109 for sale at Cooma celebrations with a Diesel (just didnt have the time to view everything).

Anyone out there whom can give us a history leason as I am keen to know more - was there many made etc.

All the best

Wayne

[lro11]

I know FCT has an engine in his shed that I drool over but i have not seen any, from what I know they were not popular and only ran in 1957 body. i have a book that says they have two keys to start the engine?????

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I<snip> ... from what I know they were not popular and only ran in 1957 body. ...<snip> In the series 1 they were only in the 1957 and 1958 production, however they continued to be fitted to Series II Land Rovers until the 2 1/4 litre diesel was introduced in 1961 with the SIIa.

[Seriously_Series]

Does anyone here have an original diesel series 1? I have some questions for you.

Ah yes the 2.0L Diesel a horribly noisy rattly engine. Tho very reliable i have heard and rare. Which makes up for its shortcomings.

Here is a video featuring the 2.0L Diesel. If anyone's interested.

Part 1: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=rfEnvzHY9Es
Part 2: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=FzhheRMPr6A&feature=related
Its a great video! The Land Rover pulling the horse box is an 80" with the diesel sound dubbed over it.

[JDNSW]

According to Taylor there would have been around 43,000 of these engines made. Rather surprisingly, they were outnumbered by about 5:1 by the petrol in the 88, but only 3:1 for the 109 - except 20:1 for the wagon.

Basically the same as the 2.25 diesel except for the fact that they had wet sleeves and a smaller bore. However, a lot of parts are different, although interchangeable at least as assemblies. Not entirely clear why, but they have the reputation for being very noisy compared to the 2.25. Power and torque were similar to the 2 litre petrol, but the heavier flywheel meant slower acceleration. But with the introduction of the the 2.25 petrol they were well behind the petrol engine.

The 2.25 diesel, as well as having more power and torque, increased the maximum rpm from 3500 to over 4000, and had a lot more parts in common with the petrol engine.

John

[Seriously_Series]

According to Taylor there would have been around 43,000 of these engines made. Rather surprisingly, they were outnumbered by about 5:1 by the petrol in the 88, but only 3:1 for the 109 - except 20:1 for the wagon.

Basically the same as the 2.25 diesel except for the fact that they had wet sleeves and a smaller bore. However, a lot of parts are different, although interchangeable at least as assemblies. Not entirely clear why, but they have the reputation for being very noisy compared to the 2.25. Power and torque were similar to the 2 litre petrol, but the heavier flywheel meant slower acceleration. But with the introduction of the the 2.25 petrol they were well behind the petrol engine.

The 2.25 diesel, as well as having more power and torque, increased the maximum rpm from 3500 to over 4000, and had a lot more parts in common with the petrol engine.

John

I was just reading about the power and toque of the 2.0L Diesel.

2.0L Petrol

39Kw@4000rpm
137Nm@1500rpm

2.0L Diesel

39Kw@3500rpm
118Nm@2000rpm

The petrol engine gives 19 more toques all at less revs.

[JDNSW]

I was just reading about the power and toque of the 2.0L Diesel.

2.0L Petrol

39Kw@4000rpm
137Nm@1500rpm

2.0L Diesel

39Kw@3500rpm
118Nm@2000rpm

The petrol engine gives 19 more toques all at less revs.

I said similar, not the same! Performance of the petrol engine was definitely better, but the difference was not dramatic.

One point worth noting, is that until 1956 Landrovers, being considered a goods carrying vehicle, were limited to 30mph (50kph) in the UK. This of course had a considerable, even if subconscious, influence on design.

John

[Aaron IIA]

What specific questions did you have?

Aaron.

[lro11]

I have a genuine series 1 diesel instruction book part number 4343 and it shows the dash layout with the centre knob that operates the lights and a key Just like the petrol version and a key to start the engine and glow plug circuit located under the dash next to the engine stop button. did these really have two keys to run the vehicle? and is the bellhousing different for the diesel model?

[JDNSW]

I have a genuine series 1 diesel instruction book part number 4343 and it shows the dash layout with the centre knob that operates the lights and a key Just like the petrol version and a key to start the engine and glow plug circuit located under the dash next to the engine stop button. did these really have two keys to run the vehicle? and is the bellhousing different for the diesel model?

I do not remember what Series 1 diesel had, but my early 2a diesel had the key switch under the instrument panel next to the engine stop, but the headlight switch did not have a key in it. While it is possible that very early diesels retained the same switch as the petrol, I think it more likely that the instrument panel picture is an incompletely changed copy of the petrol one. I do not have a Series 1 parts or workshop manual, but these should clarify it. In the Series 1 the bellhousing is different as the petrol bell housing has to fit the 2.0 petrol engine, different from the diesel and the 2.25, but the Series 1 2.0 diesel engine has the same bell housing as the Series 2 & 2a petrol and diesel. The Series 2a six has the same bell housing as the Series 1 petrol.

John

[lro11]

I picked up my first 2ltr diesel yesterday they are so different to the 2.25.
If anyone can point me in the right direction for new pistons etc that would be great.