Roof spotties

[waz]

Okay the legalities have been discussed to death. Now the more important stuff.

I want to put a pair on my roof rack but I'm copping a pizzelling from my mates who think it's seriously uncool. Now I can agree that it's perhaps a little rednecky, but I'm coming to the realisation that perhaps I might be a little rednecky too.

Is it worth the lights/wiring to do?

W

[mcrover]

They dont need to look good but most of the time they do give your rig that purposeful look and they are great for driving muddy tracks in the dark (e.g. when the track takes 8 hours longer than you thought it would) or going through deep water crossings in the dark or seeing whats going to jump out from the side of the road in front of you as well as helping see around corners at night.

Yes RT Lights are #1 :D

[mcrover]

Okay the legalities have been discussed to death. Now the more important stuff.

I want to put a pair on my roof rack but I'm copping a pizzelling from my mates who think it's seriously uncool. Now I can agree that it's perhaps a little rednecky, but I'm coming to the realisation that perhaps I might be a little rednecky too.

Is it worth the lights/wiring to do?

W

Red neck..........what about Bull horn stickers across the top of the windscreen :eek:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/294.jpg

[waz]

Red neck..........what about Bull horn stickers across the top of the windscreen :eek:

One step below a skull on the bull bar....;)

W

[mcrover]

One step below a skull on the bull bar....;)

W

:wasntme::D:p

[Fusion]

I'll be getting a light bar for elmo and running 4 broadbeam spotties on the top . Mainly for night runs out the scrub :D;) .

[Bigbjorn]

One step below a skull on the bull bar....;)

W

I will rethink my idea of having my cattle brand on the spare tyre cover then.

[crump]

Mine have been on for 3 years and I have used them once,but I dont care, they look cool.;):D My non 4wd owning mates call it "the jungle truck".

[Olive Drab]

I read somewhere once,
You may be a redneck if:
*the bonnet of your truck is as high as the roof of your house
*your car lights are brighter than most commercial jets
and so on and so on.

I'm considering mounting my spotlights on top of the wings where the bolt goes through the panel to the bracket underneath. Could be the only bug-eyed land rover in brisbane.

Anyway redneck away I say, if its cool to you thats all that matters.

[George130]

Mine are back in the shed after breaking a mount on the roof bar. I plan to put them back on.

[taff]

i think you also need to add an age thing into the poll - cos anyone over 40 that vote's something as uncool will pretty much automatically mean it's actually cool.:o
i'm 30 and voted for cool and useful. :D :D

[Bigbjorn]

I read somewhere once,
You may be a redneck if:
*the bonnet of your truck is as high as the roof of your house
*your car lights are brighter than most commercial jets
and so on and so on.

I'm considering mounting my spotlights on top of the wings where the bolt goes through the panel to the bracket underneath. Could be the only bug-eyed land rover in brisbane.

Anyway redneck away I say, if its cool to you thats all that matters.

Sorry, but if they are visible from the driver's eye level, then the installation is regarded as very naughty by Qld. Transport.

[V8Ian]

i think you also need to add an age thing into the poll - cos anyone over 40 that vote's something as uncool will pretty much automatically mean it's actually cool.:o
i'm 30 and voted for cool and useful. :D :D

Give yourself a hard smack you young whipper snapper. AND YOU'RE GROUNDED UNTIL 2019:angrylock::Rolling:

[taff]

Give yourself a hard smack you young whipper snapper. AND YOU'RE GROUNDED UNTIL 2019:angrylock::Rolling:

sorry won't happen again:(

can i go out now?
can i?
can i?
can i?
can i?

[hook]

CAMEL TROPHY



Sub Zero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[djam1]

All this and no one has mentioned white out??
In the Sahara this was discouraged due to the white out condition it can create all of sudden no shadows and you are on your roof
Depends on your reason for doing it I suppose does it put you into the category of the w****er in the Bundy ute with the 16 aerials??

[Dino]

I recon the roof lights look great, I've attached a couple of photos.

cheers

Dino

[DiscoTDI]

you need roof top lights, they look cool. You dont even need to hook them up:angel:

[Sleepy]

Personally I'd never do it. First trip into the bush and they'd get banged up, knocked about or broken off. Only got to look at the number of scratches on my roof!

Each to his own though!

[drivesafe]

First trip into the bush and they get banged up, knocked about or broken off. Only got to look at the number of scratches on my roof!

Well I go bush when ever I can, day and night, with or without roof lights fitted and I haven’t got any scratches on my roof, about the area that doesn’t have scratches.

[Sleepy]

Well I go bush when ever I can, day and night, with or without roof lights fitted and I haven’t got any scratches on my roof, about the area that doesn’t have scratches.

Low branches - MMMmmm - must be a Victorian thing ;)

[abaddonxi]

i think you also need to add an age thing into the poll - cos anyone over 40 that vote's something as uncool will pretty much automatically mean it's actually cool.:o
i'm 30 and voted for cool and useful. :D :D

Yep, 40 voted uncool.

So they must be cool. I am out of touch.:D

My vote was against low branches taking them out.

[B92 8NW]

Low branches - MMMmmm - must be a Victorian thing ;)

Trees - a Victorian only thing:D

[drivesafe]

Trees - a Victorian only thing:D
Or is there something in your drinking water that hinders your eye sight :angel:

[JDNSW]

Interesting results - opinions on whether it is cool or not are very roughly 50%, and whether they are useful or useless about the same - but not the same people.

In my view, which I have hesitated to give, because some probably will think me an old fogey (but they probably do anyway), they are useless because:-
1. they reduce visibility in rain, fog, dust and haze because the light coming from close to the driver's line of vision is reflected back much more than from normal height lights.
2. For the same reason, light along a line close to the driver's line of vision, the light from them gives almost no shadows from irregularities on roads, and the position of the shadow relative to the irregularity is different (see "whiteout" mentioned in an earlier post), which can lead to some nasty surprises on indifferent surfaces.
3. These lights are very vulnerable to overhanging branches, albeit less vulnerable to stones.

They are uncool simply because they shout "I am a (redneck, ******, show-off - pick your word)"

John

[JohnE]

IMO
ditto JD,

whats cool, Car bling? wearing a Borat mankini, or having the biggest tyres you can?

if normal headlights and driving lights are not good enough in the bush, what hope have they got driving on the road with them.

If the added visibility is needed because its a dangerous and scary track in the dark, well thats not a hard one don;t drive on it in the dark.

Commonsense seems to go out the window and a sense of bravado takes its place because ' i have roof lights' and can see better , translated i am more inclined to do more stupid things in the dark.

enough said, before all the after dark ,blind night time drivers start sledging me.


je

[taff]

Interesting results - opinions on whether it is cool or not are very roughly 50%, and whether they are useful or useless about the same - but not the same people.

In my view, which I have hesitated to give, because some probably will think me an old fogey (but they probably do anyway), they are useless because:-
1. they reduce visibility in rain, fog, dust and haze because the light coming from close to the driver's line of vision is reflected back much more than from normal height lights.
2. For the same reason, light along a line close to the driver's line of vision, the light from them gives almost no shadows from irregularities on roads, and the position of the shadow relative to the irregularity is different (see "whiteout" mentioned in an earlier post), which can lead to some nasty surprises on indifferent surfaces.
3. These lights are very vulnerable to overhanging branches, albeit less vulnerable to stones.

They are uncool simply because they shout "I am a (redneck, ******, show-off - pick your word)"

John


when your visibiltity is reduced from using them you can turn them off, but when your visibily is improved from using them you turn them on hence they can only be useful - not all the time granted but if there is a time when they are useful then they are well usefull.
as for the redneck, ******, showoff. (i'm probably all 3)but these type of comments usually come from old farts/jealous *****s - which are you?

[drivesafe]

they reduce visibility in rain, fog, dust and haze because the light coming from close to the driver's line of vision is reflected back much more than from normal height lights.
So what your saying is that if you have roof lights and you find yourself driving through fog or dust, you would have to turn your roof lights off but surprise, surprise, YOU don’t have to turn your bumper mounted driving lights off or dim your high beam. MMMMM doesn’t sound like a very factual statement to me.

It actually sounds like a statement made by a person who is prepared to say just about anything, no matter how far from reality it may be, in an attempt to give validity their opinion.



They are uncool simply because they shout "I am a (redneck, ******, show-off - pick your word)"

As I have pointed out in other threads, I find such statements offensive as I use the lights to increase my driving safety, not as some fashion statement, so can you kindly keep your small minded, opinionated labels of others to yourself.

[clean32]

So what your saying is that if you have roof lights and you find yourself driving through fog or dust, you would have to turn your roof lights off but surprise, surprise, YOU don’t have to turn your bumper mounted driving lights off or dim your high beam. MMMMM doesn’t sound like a very factual statement to me.

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:banana: It looks like you haven’t done much driving in Fog or dust.
The fact is you see less with high mounted lights the same is said for your driving lights on high beam.

Having said that in Russia spring and autumn i had high mounted lights because i didn’t want to stop every 1/2 KLM to clean down the head lights. And in most places it was unsafe to stop anyway. i really envied the cars with headlight wipers but then not having them was cheaper. a trip to Moscow would cost 1300rubles in Gas and 600 rubbles in wiper fluid that was good down to - 25 deg, any colder and the slush is frozen and the snow is hard like sand so you don’t need it.

We have read that the guys who drive under low trees don’t have them. But the guys who would do a river crossing at night do need them. LOL stick you bonnet under water and see how dark it gets, scary.

So i would say if you don’t need them don’t fit them. in Adelaide i have 2 but they are fitted to the solar panels over the cab, all this is removed for day to day driving. I fitted them out of overseas habit. i now don’t believe i need them, knowing what i know now i wouldn’t have fitted them but will leave them there because if i ever do need them than they are and will be invaluable. ie getting out of the bush at night due to some emergency like the little one snake bite some thing like that.

[Disco_owner]

IMO
ditto JD,

whats cool, Car bling? wearing a Borat mankini, or having the biggest tyres you can?

if normal headlights and driving lights are not good enough in the bush, what hope have they got driving on the road with them.

If the added visibility is needed because its a dangerous and scary track in the dark, well thats not a hard one don;t drive on it in the dark.

Commonsense seems to go out the window and a sense of bravado takes its place because ' i have roof lights' and can see better , translated i am more inclined to do more stupid things in the dark.

enough said, before all the after dark ,blind night time drivers start sledging me.


je

:eek::D

[BigJon]

They are uncool simply because they shout "I am a (redneck, ******, show-off - pick your word)"

John


Ah, but if you are a "redneck, ******, show-off", then they would be cool. I guess it depends on your own perceptions of who YOU are, not only what other people think.

I always had roll bar mounted lights on my utes. Spread beam only, spots aren't much good up there for reasons mentioned earlier (glare, reflections off dust, etc). I found them excellent in almost all driving conditions.

Then again, I am a bit of a redneck bogan showoff ****** :p.

[Sleepy]

Reckon you're being a bit oversensitive drivesafe. We were asked our opinions and we gave them.

I don't think John was calling you a ****** but saying , in his opinion, they look " (redneck, ******, show-off - pick your word)".

I think having big mud tyres around the city (like most Wranglers you see in Melbourne) is a "****" too - doesn't mean I think the driver is a ****** - I'll reserve that opinion until I meet him.

A good mate of mine has a MQ Patrol, Lifted, Locked, Big Tyres, Plastic Testicles from the tow bar, enormous oversized mudflaps, Bundy stickers - you name it. I think his vehicle shouts "(redneck, ******, show-off - pick your word)" - I've told him so many times - Great bloke though and we are good mates - With different opinions!

It'd be a boring site if we all agreed!



Oh and I drove my wife out of the high country at 2am in 2001, asthma attack.:o Scary drive, night time river crossings etc. Could have used those roof lights then - could have also used a helicopter! :cool:Still made it though.

[drivesafe]

:banana: It looks like you haven’t done much driving in Fog or dust.

After living on the south coast for 15 years, doing shift work in Sydney and driving, almost, daily up and down the Illawarra Escarpment, I can assure you I have done my fair share of driving in fog.

While driving with your hazard lights on is illegal, the fog is so bad and happens so frequently that the F4 was the first place in Australia where signs were erected along the F4 instructing drivers to put the Hazard lights on during foggy conditions.

Driving in fog, ALL lights other than low beam need to be turned off, not just the roof lights.

And after spending quite a few years out in the North West of NSW, with it’s black soil roads, I had plenty of dusty night drives and again, only a moron would leave anything other than low beam on in these sorts of conditions.

[clean32]

After living on the south coast for 15 years, doing shift work in Sydney and driving, almost, daily up and down the Illawarra Escarpment, I can assure you I have done my fair share of driving in fog.

While driving with your hazard lights on is illegal, the fog is so bad and happens so frequently that the F4 was the first place in Australia where signs were erected along the F4 instructing drivers to put the Hazard lights on during foggy conditions.

Driving in fog, ALL lights other than low beam need to be turned off, not just the roof lights.

And after spending quite a few years out in the North West of NSW, with it’s black soil roads, I had plenty of dusty night drives and again, only a moron would leave anything other than low beam on in these sorts of conditions.

??? Then why the hell did you state what you did in your first post ?? Then just to change tack with you expansive experience in your second post??

Seems rather strange to me, but then I guess you were trying to make some sort of point but it’s totally mixed up some where.

I would be concerned with anyone who decided to drive in conditions so bad that you had to turn on your hazard lights, or any party who recommended such an action, it leads me to think that the road should have been closed if visibility was so bad.

[drivesafe]

Reckon you're being a bit oversensitive drivesafe. We were asked our opinions and we gave them.

It'd be a boring site if we all agreed!

Hi Sleepy, having an opinion on whether you like something or not is one thing and to brand someone else a REDNECK just because you don’t like them is bad enough but as I have posted, after many, MANY years of use, I find these lights give me increased safety when driving at night but because some small minded individual considers them UNCOOL, I’m a REDNECK because I choose to improve my safety.

It’s anything but being oversensitive.

I’m old enough to remember when radial tyres first came on the market and the way certain individuals, not having a clew about these tyres, branding anyone who fitted them as being idiots and poses.

Try finding an ordinary tyre today and while I don’t think every dog and his mother is going to mount roof lights, that does not give those who do not intend to use them the right to brand others as rednecks or what ever.

[Sleepy]

Fair enough. If you want them use them.

As I said in my first post - "Each to his own"

I think if John said they look like an a pretentious, contemptible uneducated white farm laborers pickup truck it wouldn't have had the same punch.:D

It wasn't an insult just an observation!

Based on the vote I reckon a few more would agree.

But don't get defensive. As you say, you've used them to great effect and your happy with them!

I was once happy with my Lada Niva - Plenty of people thought I was a ****** but I loved it:D:p

[drivesafe]

??? Then why the hell did you state what you did in your first post ?? Then just to change tack with you expansive experience in your second post??Don’t know what you talking about.



I would be concerned with anyone who decided to drive in conditions so bad that you had to turn on your hazard lights, or any party who recommended such an action, it leads me to think that the road should have been closed if visibility was so bad.
Mate, I’ve never heard of a road being closed because of fog and until you have driven in these condition and seen why the signs were erected.

If you are driving along a road at 110 KHP, the legal speed and you come around a corner and into a wall of fog, you really don’t have many choices.

You could go for the brakes but that vehicle that was travelling at a legal distance behind you before you entered the fog, is now in the fog to.

Has he gone for his brakes?

Or you could pull off to the side of the road, but again, the fog is that thick, you can’t see if other vehicles have already pulled up.

Tens of thousands of vehicles use the F4 every day and there are loads of semi and there is rarely an accident, because MOST people use common sense when driving in these conditions and I can testify to very VERY rarely seeing anyone driving with anything but the low beams on, whether they had roof mounted lights or not.

[V8Landy]

I think they are a poser thing but i have not done any offroad at night so am unsure of their usefulness. I don't really like the look either a bit like the utes with all the aerials and stickers huge mudflaps and truck type bullbar(buy a bloody truck for god sake) as mentioned in an earlier post.

[bblaze]

I voted useless and uncool or what ever it was, good headlights and a good set of front mounted driving lights is all that is needed in my opinion.
I prefer night driving and the key is to drive at a speed that is safe for the road and condition at the time.
I have aso done a lot of driving in fog on roads that were often closed until the fog lifted and found the best lighting for the job was low beam and steady slow driving (tried lots of different lighting combo's on recomendations, results were standard low beam th best)
cheers
blaze

[crump]

Hi Sleepy, having an opinion on whether you like something or not is one thing and to brand someone else a REDNECK just because you don’t like them is bad enough but as I have posted, after many, MANY years of use, I find these lights give me increased safety when driving at night but because some small minded individual considers them UNCOOL, I’m a REDNECK because I choose to improve my safety.

It’s anything but being oversensitive.

I’m old enough to remember when radial tyres first came on the market and the way certain individuals, not having a clew about these tyres, branding anyone who fitted them as being idiots and poses.

Try finding an ordinary tyre today and while I don’t think every dog and his mother is going to mount roof lights, that does not give those who do not intend to use them the right to brand others as rednecks or what ever.

Yes it is. One of the parameters for the poll was "for poseurs" as in its all a bit tounge in cheek.Waz started the "Redneck " tag about himself for a giggle. JDNSW's post continues that path with his own opinions and end with that tag as well.No one has attacked anyone in this thread except yourself, get over it and move along.NB I probably have the biggest Roof top lights out of all of you and I take no offence.

[discowhite]

NB I probably have the biggest Roof top lights out of all of you and I take no offence.

its true!

big lights small.....




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speakers;):D:D

cheers phil

[BigJon]

.NB I probably have the biggest Roof top lights out of all of you


I was going to take offence at that, then I reread it and saw you said Roof top lights :eek::p:D.

[crump]

its true!

big lights small.....




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speakers;):D:D

cheers phil
:D:D

[crump]

.NB I probably have the biggest Roof top lights out of all of you


I was going to take offence at that, then I reread it and saw you said Roof top lights :eek::p:D.well the other goes without saying!!:p

[drivesafe]

One of the parameters for the poll was "for poseurs" as in its all a bit tounge in cheek.Waz started the "Redneck " tag about himself for a giggle. JDNSW's post continues that path with his own opinions and end with that tag as well.No one has attacked anyone in this thread except yourself, get over it and move along.NB I probably have the biggest Roof top lights out of all of you and I take no offence.

Hi crump, while I don’t consider being called a redneck all that offensive, being called a ****** most certainly is and this thread’s tongue in cheek attitude or not, this is not the first time he’s branded other as being ******* all because he doesn’t like roof lights.

The term ****** is both offensive and unwarranted as this, I my case and going on statements made here and in another thread on the same subject, is about safety.

This type of behaviour is not supposed to be something that occurs on this site.

[Sleepy]

here (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/70969-roof-top-lights-3.html#post890775)

Most of these so called fog lights are nothing more than ****** lights and that includes the “fog” lights on all LRs.

Vehicles like early model BMWs, VWs and such, had proper fog lights that pointed down and lit no more than about 1 or 2 metres in front of the vehicle, not facing in front as these ****** lights do.




Got them ****** fog lights on my Disco too.:( Bugger

Lighten up sport, no one called you a ******!

Richard Hadlee........... now there's a ******

[drivesafe]

There is a vast difference between the uses of driving lights, roof mounted or otherwise, who dim them when there is on coming vehicle, to ******* who drive with their fog lights on at all times, endangering others by blinding them with there useless light that have no safety value what so ever.

People who drive around endangering other for no other reason that to pose are ******* but how does this relate to anybody who chooses to increase their own safety without any risk to others.

[POD]

I discovered the value of having high-mounted lights some years ago when I did a whirlwind trip from Gippsland to innamincka with my old dad. We had to push pretty hard to get home (gawd that sounded like Russell Coight!) and drove from Tibbooburra to Broken Hill after dark. This road is lined on both sides with long grass- all my normal lights did was illuminate the sides of the road like a tunnel, what I really needed was to see over the tall grass at the sides where the roos and emus were coming from. My eyes were high enough but my lights didn't illuminate there.
I picked up a pair of Bull lights for $20 at a garage sale. Did a short trip with them mounted on the top rail of the bullbar- never again! Things like that in your line of vision are a dangerous distraction.
I now have them mounted on my roofrack, the rack only goes on the vehicle for trips. I also reckon they look a bit wanky (nowhere near as wanky as on the top of the bullbar) but when they are on and the rack is loaded up for a trip it all looks like it means business.
The roofrack mounted lights have saved me from kangaroo impacts on many occasions. For outback trips I aim them outwards slightly to illuminate the verges and a little way off the roadsides, where the roos come from. For high-country trips and such they are aimed straight ahead- great for picking out wombats on the road.
The flood of light on the bonnet is compensated by the sheer amount of light up ahead- like daytime. Sometimes there is too much light- particularly when approaching large signs which throw the light straight back. The bull lights are switchable independent of the main driving lights for this reason.
My verdict: in town, useless and uncool. On a trip: indispensible and looks the goods to boot.

[Outlaw]

Okay everyone back in there corners for a time out please
:bat: :bat: :bat: :bat:

[drivesafe]

Sometimes there is too much light- particularly when approaching large signs which throw the light straight back.

I have the same problem and I might add, this is the only problem I have come across when using roof mounted lights and I don’t know if it’s caused by the position of the roof lights or just sheer amount of.

[cockie55]

I have a total of 7 X Cibie's (130 amp alternator and 2X batts) over and above D1 OEM lights. 2 Cibie's X on the bar and 5 X Cibie's roof mounted on a custom bar coupled matt black bonnet. For long trips at night along QLD sand islands looking out for washouts, creek crossings etc it makes it so much easier and safer to have those extra lumens up top. If it is not cool I don't care.

[DirtyDawg]

i think you also need to add an age thing into the poll - cos anyone over 40 that vote's something as uncool will pretty much automatically mean it's actually cool.:o
i'm 30 and voted for cool and useful. :D :D


you only 30 Jase, damn, appearences can be deceiving;);):D

[Pedro_The_Swift]

so,, come on W,,

are you cool and young or uncool and old?


and what about the lights?:p

[Grover-98]

When done correctly they look great! do you have a roof rack to mount them on or will you use a light bar? How many what light are you using?

From what i can SEE they are a useful and cool idea! :D


James.

[Tombie]

Damn!!!

Whats a guy to do?

I'm a poser, show off, tosser... Enjoy a good **** when the wifes not willing to help out... :angel:

Have bling on my truck... Own a Mankini :eek: And just fitted the largest tyres that would fit my Disco... (Out with the grinder this week)


Having roof lights has stopped me clobbering a few roos at speed and offroad has been far more useful than not having them....

And yes, I have hit an overhanging branch.. At speed (80km/h offroad) and did some damage... But the lights ALL worked afterwards - I just had to redo the mount...

http://gallery.me.com/rovertech/100098/TRIP-20Ngarkat-20Aug-20Disco-20Aftermath14/web.jpg

http://gallery.me.com/rovertech/100098/TRIP-20Ngarkat-20Aug-20Disco-20Aftermath02/web.jpg

[Sleepy]

Nice one Tombie

:lol2::lol2:

I guess I don't like car aerials too - look how easily that bent:p:p

[RR90_Goat]

roof spotties are nice... but the light pod for the rr classic reigns supreme... it seems as though with little effort it would adapt to P38's, defenders and discos.

4 lights ala rally vehicle setup... enough to light up the darkest of nights and turn them into day.

PS: I'm new to this site... how do i customise my signature...

[RR90_Goat]

here's a pick of the light pod.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://imageshack.us)

they retail for approx 150 quid in UK... i'm pretty sure it doesen't come with any lights.

they come in black and white but are easily can sprayed to match vehicle colour.

[Tombie]

here's a pick of the light pod.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7523/black20podes1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

they retail for approx 150 quid in UK... i'm pretty sure it doesen't come with any lights.

they come in black and white but are easily can sprayed to match vehicle colour.

And theyre bloody useless!!!!!

Had one on the disco... Stayed on for 1 trip and then pulled it off...

About as useful as a sore ar$e to a boundary rider!!!

Great for seeing in front without blocking the grill / radiator... But not anywhere as good as on the roof...

[RR90_Goat]

light-pods - cool or useless... >> both then?
roof spotties - cool and useful

i must admit i've only driven a rally car with these pod lights and nota rangie... and visibility was superb and turned the 'road' into day.

i suspect, now that i think of it, the benefits of having roof spotties will give a broader view... when there is essentially no road to speak of... ie in dunes, where there simply is no road.

my roof spotties hang off the rear of the roof rack pointing out the back of the vehicle for fishing/camping and not driving. might be worthwhile setting them up to be fixed to the front as well.

good thread... i'll jump back in my box now.

[Tombie]

light-pods - cool or useless... >> both then?
roof spotties - cool and useful

i must admit i've only driven a rally car with these pod lights and nota rangie... and visibility was superb and turned the 'road' into day.

i suspect, now that i think of it, the benefits of having roof spotties will give a broader view... when there is essentially no road to speak of... ie in dunes, where there simply is no road.

my roof spotties hang off the rear of the roof rack pointing out the back of the vehicle for fishing/camping and not driving. might be worthwhile setting them up to be fixed to the front as well.

good thread... i'll jump back in my box now.

Youre spot on!

:cool:

[hook]

Being a 4WD site,
you really should not bring in the BANANA B&S ute, in to this.
- most time there not wired up.
GREAT off road, but I draw the line at using them on the road.
maybe, just maybe way out west.:angel:

[taff]

you only 30 Jase, damn, appearences can be deceiving;);):D

funnily enough nige most people say that - must think i look younger :o :D

[Redback]

If you want them and like them, put them on:spudnikwhat:

I don't like them, so i don't have them, simple really:angel:

Besides they would last 5min on my Disco, we do a lot of exploring side tracks, these tend to be overgrown;)

Baz.

[waz]

Wow! What a great response!

Well after a pretty evenly split response, I think I will go ahead and put a pair in the centre section of the roof rack. I think I will make them easily removable with the rack and only use them for trips.

W

[Bigbjorn]

So American , Where are there long horns in Australia ;)

If you wanna be like the yanks , go live there i say :p
Im Australian and im proud of it thanks :cool:

Just my opinion on them tosser wanna be cowboy stickers:twisted:

That is the R.M.Williams emblem. Can't get much more Australian than that. There certainly were breeds of cattle in Australia that had impreesive spreads of horns, matbe not as exaggerated as the stylised RM emblem, but not far off. Pastoralists have mostly phased them out in favour of Bos Indicus breeds, and the brucellosis/tuberculosis eradication campaign pretty well saw the end of the older breeds, at least in the big cattle raising areas of the far north.

[Redback]

That is the R.M.Williams emblem. Can't get much more Australian than that. There certainly were breeds of cattle in Australia that had impreesive spreads of horns, matbe not as exaggerated as the stylised RM emblem, but not far off. Pastoralists have mostly phased them out in favour of Bos Indicus breeds, and the brucellosis/tuberculosis eradication campaign pretty well saw the end of the older breeds, at least in the big cattle raising areas of the far north.

Yep as Brian says there are longhorn cattle in Australia, the Moree Narrabri area is longhorn country, has been for donkeys, but as brian says they are not as popular as they used to be, from memory they are Brahma crossed with something here.

Baz.

[georgesadlik]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/01/285.jpg

Yes they work and work very well especially when it's dark.... :BigThumb: You have them spread to light up the sides of the road and the dead spots around the main driving lights. You see alot more eyes looking back at you with all the lights on. Also they are switched seperate to the other driving lights and protected within the top bar of the ARB roof rack.

Works for me.

Cheers

George.

[Sprint]

does this make me a redneck?
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=13169&stc=1&d=1233061377

[p38arover]

does this make me a redneck?
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=13160&stc=1&d=1233056882

Absolutely! Those Qld plates are a dead giveaway!

[Sprint]

happy now ya mexican?

[p38arover]

happy now ya mexican?


I went to school at Calamvale and Salisbury High.

[Sprint]

only makes you a city slicker!

[p38arover]

only makes you a city slicker!

True. I grew up in Hume Weir, Rylstone, Ceduna, Carnarvon, etc.

We won't talk about Inala....

[Sprint]

damn city folk just scared of us bush boys!

[idletorque]

Roof lights are both cool and useful - even for those over 40!:D

Had them for years and driven hard tracks at night including lots of deep mud and water. Daylight drives are fun, but night trips are a whole lot better!!!

Mine are tucked up under the roof rack to protect them and are trained down to eliminate all shadows and light up the sides of the track in tight situations. As has been previously pointed out, when the water depth or track overgrowth is over bull bar height they're worth their weight in gold and even excessive mud plugging doesn't reduce their effectiveness.

Camel trophy vehicles didn't have them fitted for image, as everything had to have a purpose. The image was born from that.

That all said, I'd never dream of using them on road and use my bull bar mounted lights for that which they're designed.

As has been said, fit them if you have a want and need, otherwise - dont!

[Bigbjorn]

I went to school at Calamvale and Salisbury High.

Were you one of the Salisbury High kids who practiced their human relationships homework on the train?

[osherg]

we sell automotive lighting for a living and find that broadbeams on the roof give off too much reflection of bonnets etc a few well direct long range (pencil or spot) beams are a better way to go and put the spread on the bullbar where they can spread out nice and wide and get the grass and trees in full view.

Just some advice from teh self proclaimed lighting experts...

[waz]

this makes sense to me and I won't need to run the pencil beams unless I need the extra distance.

W

[drivesafe]

Unless you have a roof rack, you can fit the lights far enough back along the roof so they don’t cast any light at all on your bonnet.

As far as spots go, you will get the same advantage whether you put them on the roof or on the front bumper.

The advantage to roof lights is that they light up the road directly ahead of you so you get to see pot holes and flood ways and the like, just that bit sooner and they have the advantage of lighting around corners, something spots can’t do.