Freelander Wheel Stud Pattern

[Seahorse]

Done a bit of a search on this with no luck..

Can anyone advise me what the Stud Pattern is on a 2000 (1.8) 5 Door ..??

Or know the equivalent ...(Ford/Holden etc)

I want to fit a couple of Freelander rims on my trailer but need to buy some new hubs to suit.

[Scouse]

Ford Falcon has the same PCD. The only problem you have is the wheel nut has a different taper.
That might or might not be a problem depending on what sort of load your trailer is to carry.

[beforethevision]

Simply,

5x114.3mm(4.5") stud pattern with less than -40 offset (closer to zero the better). Stock wheels are ~-42mm offset for the 5.5j. Alot of ford wheels fit this bill, falcons in particular. If you want an exact match, look for AU onwards, while the earlier 'Ex' series will give you a wider track.

REMEMBER: VARIATIONS DO EXIST!

Test fit, as the hub circle in the middle varies between cars and aftermarket rims. Many american FL owners report no problems with a wheel oversized in the hub cutout.

Cheers

EDIT: Scouse makes a good point, i was of the mind you were buying 8 rims... 5 for the fl, 3 for the trailer. Which means the same nuts.

[Scouse]

While the Falcon has the same PCD, the stud thread is different so you need to modify the nuts (or live with the different taper) providing you're using Freelander steel wheels.

I'm not too sure with alloys though. They might be the same as they don't use a stepped nut either but the Ford hub protrudes too far & you can't fit a centre cap..

[101RRS]

Here is a pic of my 6x4 box trailer with Freelander 15" rims.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/100_0527.jpg

They are falcon hubs with the standard wheel nuts that come with the hubs. I bought the hubs and nuts for $35 as side.

The taper on the nuts is close enough to the taper on freelander nuts to not make a difference - threads are different though.

The problem in the hole in the centre of the wheel is slightly smaller than the diameter of the hub housing and dust cover. There are two options - ream out the hole in the wheel to make it fit or add a couple of cheap washers (basically a spacer - yes illegal - no dialogue on this issue please) between the wheel and hub.

I have used two galvanised washers on each stud (20c from the hardware store). Only about 1/8" thick but is enough give the required clearance - there is more than enough thread on the studs.

I hope this helps.

Garry

[Slunnie]

Are they really Ford pattern?

I thought they were the regular modern LR 5x120 PCD with a 12mm instead of 14mm stud.

[Scouse]

Are they really Ford pattern?Yep. Don't tell me that you've learnt something new about Land Rovers today :D.


I thought they were the regular modern LR 5x120 PCD with a 12mm instead of 14mm stud.NFI. All I know is that some parts from a Freeloader are useful ;).

[Slunnie]

Yep. Don't tell me that you've learnt something new about Land Rovers today :D.

NFI. All I know is that some parts from a Freeloader are useful ;).
Yeah! I did! :D

[Dorko]

You can always get the rims custom drilled. This is what i did for my FL2.... There again, i didnt have any options, either volvo rims, or LR rims. Then i found Speedy wheels which custom drill 4WD rims. Very happy with there service and quality rims.

Dorko

[101RRS]

You can always get the rims custom drilled. This is what i did for my FL2.... There again, i didnt have any options, either volvo rims, or LR rims. Then i found Speedy wheels which custom drill 4WD rims. Very happy with there service and quality rims.

Dorko


Performance Wheels will also drill their alloy wheels in their industrial range (just a heavier duty wheel) to the stud pattern you require at no extra cost.
http://www.performancewheels.com.au/pdf/industrial_back.pdf

Garry

[Scouse]

The problem in the hole in the centre of the wheel is slightly smaller than the diameter of the hub housing and dust cover. That's interesting. I bought Ford PCD hubs from Supercheap & tried my 16" alloys on them. The hub went through the centre hole easily & didn't require the use of spacers.
I must admit that I didn't have the grease cap fitted at the time (just testing fit) but it all seemed OK otherwise. I might have another trial fit & see if I do need spacers.

[101RRS]

I didn't try the 16" that are on my Freelander - as you can see I have used my old 15" alloys - I suspect that different freelander wheels - in particular the steel wheels may fit no issues.

There wasn't much in the diameter and I used a hole enlarging tool in my drill to make the hole a little larger - has no impact on the wheel - if I put them back on the car the center cap would just be a bit loose and would need a bit of silastic to hold it.

I then got lazy and just used a couple of washers - they are so thin not to be considered "spacers". The wheel with the slightly enlarged hole is the spare.

The other issue is that the 15" alloy wheels are light weight and don't have a high load rating - something like 550kg so are not suitable for any heavy weight trailers.

Garry

[Slunnie]

Prob just different hubs. If the wheel is anything like the D2/P38 etc, it centres on the hub spigot.

[101RRS]

I first tried some hubs at a trailer builder and they would not fit at all - I bought mine at a caravan parts place and these were almost perfect - they fitted Ok with the dust caps off - but not quite with them on.

Freelander wheels are centred by the taper on the wheel nuts not the hub.

Garry

[Seahorse]

Thanks for the great info Guys...:D

I will let you know the outcome...!!

[PhilipA]

I do not think that hub location is that important for a trailer.
After all, unless my memory is worse than I think, all RRC until the mag wheel ones did not have central location. It was only by the nuts.

BUT I would never shim out a wheel with washers.
1 the galv could fret and the wheel come loose
2 Ther ecould be aslkight wave on the washers which relaxes.

I strongly advise you to grind the holes in the rims out a bit so the wheel sits on the hub.
And it would be better to take a set of Freelander nuts and the Falcon ones to an engineering shop and have the Freelander taper put on.

Jail for killing someone coming the other way with a wheel does not look good on a CV.
Regards Philip A

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

OK, usually I wouldn't venture into the Freelander section and this info may already be widely known but here goes.

Sitting at Ian Diffen getting my wheels balanced, a guy comes in with a Freelander looking for mags.
Aparently......... Holden Captiva stud patterned rims, in this case 18" with Toyota wheel nuts will go straight on...

But don't hold me to it......

Andrew


Sent from my backyard TeePee using smoke signals.

[101RRS]

Freelander 1s have either a commodore or falcon stud pattern. I have my old Freelander 15" alloy rims on my box trailer that has a standard 5 stud pattern.

Garry

[Ausfree]

My FL1 has mag wheels with Cooper 225/65/R17 tyres. Vehicle looks excellent!!:D

[Scouse]

Freelander 1s have either a commodore or falcon stud pattern. I have my old Freelander 15" alloy rims on my box trailer that has a standard 5 stud pattern.

GarryFreelander is Falcon.
Disco II is Commodore.