D2 suspension Q's

[davros]

Looking to upgrade my D2's suspension as it's had the same shocks since new. What is a recomended coil to raise the front a little due to the weight of the ARB bar (more looking to level the vehicle than raise it), and what shockies do people recommend for standard - 50mm lift (if I decide to do this later can I get shocks that won't need changing?)? I am often bottoming out against the bump stops :twisted: but I don't want too harsh a ride.

What about the rears? It's air SLS/air suspension. Any recomendations on the spacers one sees on the net?

Also any recommendations on lower front shock bushes - I keep chewing them out, only 15-20,000 kms and they're cactus. Iv'e heard urethane ones can damage the shockies? What are my options? (Apart from slow down!! :wasntme: )

Cheers,

Dave

[LandyAndy]

If its chewing shockie bushes chances are they are stuffed.See how easy it is to push down on the bullbar,if its easy they are shot.Try other discos (D1or2)or Rangies in carparks for a comparisson,they should be reasonably stiff.
2" liftkit is the go,I have EFS,quite stiff,not what you are chasing.
I dont have the airbag rears,others will answer,isint it just a case of re-positioning the height sensors to trick the ecu????
Goodluck
Andrew

[davros]

I think tricking the sensors means the bags run at a higher pressure/harsher ride.. When you put in spacers you must extend the sensor arms too though, or the bags will deflate to the origingal height I guess.

Dave

[Slunnie]

Springs and shocks are such a subjective thing. What one person likes another doesn't. I would try to run front springs that are up in the rate such as 200-230lb so that they dont sag in 12 months and need replacing again. I like to load carry. Other prefer soft 160-190lb/in springs but they drop with a steel bar + winch.

Shocks... I like Bilstein for performance, durability and quality, but some find that they are too stiff. Stiff means control.

SLS spacers - Tombie2 or 4X4Intelligence.

Shock bushes - the D2 responds very well to Poly bushes. These are the only type that I can keep under mine as the rubber ones wear out. Change all shock bushes to Poly, and I have had an exceptional run from the Rancho bushes. All of the Poly/Rubber talk that you have read does not apply to the D2 as its a different setup - the polys are even significicantly more durable than Rose joints here!

If it were me.... then I'd do King Springs 190lb/in or OME 220lb/in, all round with Bilstein shocks and poly shock bushes. SLS from Tombie2

[scarry]

What rating are the original springs on the front of TD5 5 seater?

[maddos]

Slunnie,

I have the same issue as dave. Same car, need to change the shockies but want to upgrade to something that will accomodate a future lift. ie. Is it possible to put longer shockies in a standard D2?

Cheers man,

Josh

[Slunnie]

Slunnie,

I have the same issue as dave. Same car, need to change the shockies but want to upgrade to something that will accomodate a future lift. ie. Is it possible to put longer shockies in a standard D2?

Cheers man,

Josh
For the front you can within the limitations of the brake lines and Xmember and I believe the springs will remain captive. For the rear, if you have SLS then I would not - the airbags don't tolerate being pulled on as a result of longer shocks and they will fail. If you have a spacer in there, then no worries. I'm not really up to speed with SLS lengths etc, thats more Tombies domain.

[maddos]

Cheers man, much appreciated. I didn't even consider the shockies would set the limits for the airbags. Wouldn't want to blow one of those babies! Nice one.

Josh

[Redback]

Cheers man, much appreciated. I didn't even consider the shockies would set the limits for the airbags. Wouldn't want to blow one of those babies! Nice one.

Josh

You were going to ring me Josh, what happened:confused:

I have standard front shocks if you want them.

Baz.

[Franz]

What rating are the original springs on the front of TD5 5 seater?
150 lbs front & 250 lbs rear.

Cheers,

Franz

[HAK]

Save you self the head ache drive into ARB get a suspension lift and drive away :D;)

[Slunnie]

I dont think ARB will do an SLS lift.

[DiscoDan]

I dont think ARB will do an SLS lift.

Most companies I have spoken to won't do a SLS lift, Rip it out and put in coils they say

I sent an email off to 4x4 intelligence late last week and still no reply however they might be flat out so will give them time. Might have to bug Tombie2 as well

I had Dobinson springs in my D1 for over 6 years and they might have sagged but did it at the same height all round i.e. no I LEAN. and the car had a nice soft but controlled ride.

Once I find the spacers (buy them I mean) I would not hesatate in putting the Dobinson springs in the front.

We have a company in Brisvages call Driveline services and they do gas shocks for D1 and D2 approx 50mm longer for $400. (put these on the D1 before selling) Great value and no harse ride.

[davros]

Great to get this info, gives me some food for thought! Time to save some money! And inform the other half, "It's your comfort and safety that is my concern here..." ;) I think she may use her Special Powers to see through this though... again... :o

[catch-22]

So, how many times should my D2 rock before coming to a stop if rocked by hand pushing up and pulling down fairly intensively?

Cheers
Caine

[Slunnie]

So, how many times should my D2 rock before coming to a stop if rocked by hand pushing up and pulling down fairly intensively?

Cheers
Caine
If they are well valved shocks then they shouldn't extend more than once, but probably extending twice for most shocks.

I find that the place you notice shocks the most, is after hitting a speed hump, especially at the rear when it keeps bouncing along.

[catch-22]

If they are well valved shocks then they shouldn't extend more than once, but probably extending twice for most shocks.

I find that the place you notice shocks the most, is after hitting a speed hump, especially at the rear when it keeps bouncing along.

ooooo...uuummmmm....mine rocks about five or six times.

They have done 140,000 ks.

This is what might be causing my tyre scalloping.

I would buy OEM but they would have been sitting around a while. Will call Bilstein next week. Mate got some Billy's from overseas at a fraction of the cost of buying them here. Might have to look in to that. I'm sure when I finish this post and run a search I will find a whole wealth of information about shockies...

[Slunnie]

5 or 6 times is well shot. :lol2:

[sparks]

I recently contacted King Springs myself.This is the information they gave me.
Part numbers are KRFR-06 (front) & KRRR-04 (rear).They will give an approximate lift of 40mm above standard.
These springs are designed with an increase in spring rate of approximately 25%.
RRP is $ 190.00 + GST per pair front.
RRP is $ 190.00 + GST per pair rear.


For shocks i was tending toward Bilsteins.

[scarry]

Ok guys,without hijacking thread,can anyone answer this?
Mine is coils all round,and a front shock is weeping,front has also sagged,have steel bar only.
I want to keep it at standard height.Are the king springs good enough to bring it back up to standard height & stay there,or am i better off with Lovells Heavy Duty,standard height?

Also where is the best place to get Bilsteins from at the moment?I presume i will need standard length ones

Thanks in advance

[catch-22]

Paul, can't you just buy OEM springs if you want standard height?

[scarry]

Could do,but was thinking after market may be better quality & last longer:)

[Slunnie]

Could do,but was thinking after market may be better quality & last longer:)
I think most of the aftermarket springs are better designed WRT the modulas of elasticity in mind, but I also think that many of them dont last a lot longer because the rates are too low for the application.

[davros]

What are EFS shockies like? In a 2" lifted disco? Any good?

Dave