New Cargo Barrier for Puma

[Craig]

So I finally decided to order an genuine LR006447 from the UK after not being able to source any barriers in Aust...

It ended up costing 320 pounds from Duckworth Landrover including freight and arriver 12 days later.

It took an afternoon to install mainly because it didn't really fit, so I had to remove all the brackets and elongate a few holes, after that it was goood.

It comes in two separate pieces (upper and lower) and seems to be sturdy enough.

I am aware that it doesn't have an ADR, but its really only to keep the dogs off the new seats.

It looks "factory" which keeps my wife happy. she thinks that all my special homemade mods in the 300Tdi were dodgey... so because she was nice enough to let me buy the new one, I have to get "nice" stuff to put in it. that seems fair ;)

[dmdigital]

Mine should arrive tomorrow. I'll let you know if I have the same issues with holes not lining up. Can you let me know which brackets were the main problems, was it the ones at the bottom or the top?

[Craig]

The brackets that are second from the bottom, that go on to the existing torx screws, needed the major adjustment... about 7-8mm each side.

the very top bracket just needed a few mm.

oh, the instructions say you only need a 13mm spanner, you also need a torx driver set, 10mm spanner, screwdrivers, and some other bits and pieces.

Good luck

Craig

[LandieMan]

I'm not sure if it's the same but I think there might be one of these for sale at the moment on TradeMe in NZ. The reserve is listed at $400NZD. Check it out at: Defender Dog Guard for sale - TradeMe.co.nz - New Zealand (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=199699689). LR Item No: VUB 500 510 AD.

If you knew anyone near Martinborough they might be able to collect it and ship it to you. Certainly a whole lot cheaper than via the UK.

Cheers, Iain.

[dullbird]

pics pics pics!!!!!!!

[dmdigital]

I'm not sure if it's the same but I think there might be one of these for sale at the moment on TradeMe in NZ. The reserve is listed at $400NZD. Check it out at: Defender Dog Guard for sale - TradeMe.co.nz - New Zealand (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=199699689). LR Item No: VUB 500 510 AD.

If you knew anyone near Martinborough they might be able to collect it and ship it to you. Certainly a whole lot cheaper than via the UK.

Cheers, Iain.
No that's not the one we are talking about.

[muddymech]

i better get savingim feeling left out, our seat covers are already dog hair and dribble covered.

[dmdigital]

The brackets that are second from the bottom, that go on to the existing torx screws, needed the major adjustment... about 7-8mm each side.

the very top bracket just needed a few mm.

oh, the instructions say you only need a 13mm spanner, you also need a torx driver set, 10mm spanner, screwdrivers, and some other bits and pieces.

Good luck

Craig
Thanks Craig,

I already knew about the torx and different sizes as I've downloaded the fitting instruction sheet. Vague as always! Be interesting to see how mine goes with tolerances, given what I've gone through today with the doors. Got to love a Defender, no other vehicle since the 1960's would have had such room for adjustments


pics pics pics!!!!!!!
I'll post up pic's of the whole lot when it arrives and try and include the installation.

[Craig]

Here is the finished product...

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6703/dsc0093cn6.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0093cn6.jpg)

Its a pretty good fit and it doesnt look to bad.

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9243/dsc0093modop2.th.jpg (http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0093modop2.jpg)
these are the brackets that needed modding. The holes in the cargo barrier were 1315mm apart, but the distance between the recieving holes were only 1300mm .

The soloution... File out these holes by about 7-8mm on each bracket to give the extra 15mm of adjustment....
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/903/dsc0093bracketka4.th.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0093bracketka4.jpg)

voila



Craig

[dmdigital]

Well mine arrived today, so guess what I'll be doing tomorrow.

[Craig]

dm_ts5...

Let me know how it goes... I'm interested to know if my car is out of whack or the kits aren't that good.

Oh and I forgot to mention when fitting the very top bracket... the destructions say to screw the 2 bits togeather and then position them. its much easier to just bolt the bracket to the roof/gutter area, then get the top half of the barrier in position, and THEN attach the top supports.

They also needed a little moding but only a mm or two.

Craig

[dmdigital]

Well after 30 minutes of playing around...




... I discovered I need a new round bastard.

Haven't put the tape against the holes, but it looks about 15mm difference:mad: My old file is a little to worn for the task.

Thanks for the heads up;)

[dmdigital]

Here's my installation story. The barrier is all in and secure:blink:

Like Craig I found the barrier to be approximately 15mm too wide for the lower brackets. This necessitated elongating the 2 mounting holes in each bracket so they could be moved outwards. My old 1/4 round bastard file was not up to it so of to THE hardware store, luckily they had ONE in stock for a measily $26.

OK problem resolved, lick of black paint all good:)

That's the bottom half installed. Now to pull out the panel plugs and mount the brackets at the top (near the alpine windows). Instructions show 2 bolts, yep they are there but both are into captive nuts, the diagram shows one captive, one with a loose nut - cool that will make it easier... Famous last words! On the RH side both of these bolts stripped their thread undoing them, they weren't even tight and I suspect were only held in by a thread or two. So off I go to get a couple of M6 bolts from the bolt bucket and see if I have an M6 tap. Didn't have an M6 tap, THE hardware store fortunately had ONE M6 tap left in stock for $16.95.

Re-tap holes and 2 new bolts and the bracket is mounted. The LH side bolts came out and went back in without an issue. Now to put the top section in place. Not overly hard, but again alignment issues. This became a 2 person job. Loosen everything off and fiddle with top brackets, all's good.

The barrier isn't as strongly made as a Milford but will certainly stop cargo coming forward. Also it's in 3 pieces. The top section, bottom section and a hinged window in the bottom section to allow long cargo to be pushed through. However the set catches can no longer be folded flat as the barrier is now in the way. It will be a chore to remove and put back in if I ever have to. The good thing is there are no new holes in the vehicle as everywhere it mounts is an existing point.

It is like it as designed for a previous model. The instructions updated for the Puma whilst the barrier hasn't been checked for fitting.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/02/1275.jpg
Seats are coming out soon.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/02/1276.jpg

[Yorkshire_Jon]

Glad its all sorted Derek - sounds like even the new Defenders are as wonky as the older ones. At least they're consistent!

If anyone else wants one sending over whilst our pound is on its ****, let me know.

Regards,
Jon

[dmdigital]

Thanks Jon and thanks for the assistance in sourcing and shipping this from the UK.

[dullbird]

Glad its all sorted Derek - sounds like even the new Defenders are as wonky as the older ones. At least they're consistent!

If anyone else wants one sending over whilst our pound is on its ****, let me know.

Regards,
Jon

to say that two cars had to have the holes elongated by 15mm I would say the cars are straight and the brackets are made wrong:)

[dmdigital]

to say that two cars had to have the holes elongated by 15mm I would say the cars are straight and the brackets are made wrong:)
The two brackets are definitely a manufacturing issue I believe. As for the rest of it...