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Collette
5th February 2009, 02:41 PM
Can I import a car from UK or Ireland to Perth if I dont have it for a year. Any way at all?? What will I be lookin at to pay?
Why do they do this anyways its stupid to be honest!:eek:

Psimpson7
5th February 2009, 03:04 PM
Not as a personal import no.

They will make you prove ownership and use for 12 months.

You could bring it out for a 12 month period, say for a trip, but it would need to be set back.

JDNSW
5th February 2009, 04:06 PM
It is probably possible, but there would be no concessions made. You would at a minimum have to pay import duty(20% I think?) and GST (including on the import duty) and you probably would have to show it complied with ADRs before importing it at a guess. A look round Customs website should find details.

It is definitely discouraged, to prevent a grey market trade in low mileage second hand cars from Japan, which is seen as a detriment to the Australian car manufacturing industry.

John

101RRS
5th February 2009, 06:08 PM
Yes you can but you will pay, pay, pay, pay.

Own it for a year and your government taxes are much less.

Garry

jamesmoon007
5th February 2009, 06:21 PM
Can I import a car from UK or Ireland to Perth if I dont have it for a year. Any way at all?? What will I be lookin at to pay?
Why do they do this anyways its stupid to be honest!:eek:

i did look into this a few months back and remember reading something about the 12 month rule does not apply if the vehicle is over 14 years old.... was going to follow this up then i found a 110 down the road from me...... a lot easier !

V8Ian
5th February 2009, 06:22 PM
Could you store it in Sth Ireland for 1yr, thus avoiding UK taxes, the import to Oz avoiding our tax?

Vin Rouge
5th February 2009, 06:36 PM
I've recently imported my Defender from the UK and found that the checks on ownership were tight. You need the registration documents in your name to prove the one year ownership, not just a receipt. Not heard anything about the over 14 years bit but mine is 15 years old and I still had to prove ownership.

Also, be prepared to be stitched up when it arrives in Australia. I was charged additional clearance fees because there were spares in the vehicle, then it was another $650 for steam cleaning (they claimed that nearly all vehicles needed it) which just wasn't done. After that there's fees for a compliance plate, safety check plate (real joke that one after having experience of the UK's MOT) then first registration, etc. It seems to go on for ever.

Best of luck.

taff
5th February 2009, 06:38 PM
it may be possible to buy a container load of car parts and import them over - pay the tax on them, then get in an engineer and build your own car from the parts you just shipped over

V8Ian
5th February 2009, 06:42 PM
it may be possible to buy a container load of car parts and import them over - pay the tax on them, then get in an engineer and build your own car from the parts you just shipped over

Don't go there, been there with a bike :(

graham7773
6th February 2011, 10:55 AM
I know this thread is 2 years old but as a new forum member, I don't want to start a new thread on the same subject. So here goes. I was looking at a BMW 760Li in Melbourne @$59000. The same car with better paint and lower Ks in England is GBP12.990 or a touch over AU$20.000. Even if it costs $20000 to get it here including import, repairs and taxes, I would still be $20.000 better off than buying the local one. Why can I not import the UK one? Or is there a legal way that I can. I know a person who did it by removing the entire turret of the car and importing the thing as spare parts. Is that still legal? Please I am not looking for opinions, I need solid information as this would be a fair investment for me but I do love the 760Li. It is one of the best cars on the planet.:):):) By the way, V8Ian, what problems did you strike with your bike parts import?

I just read through the Australian laws for importing a car for private use. Do not bother replying to this as it is impossible to import for private use a car in any form. Why? The federal government is protecting the pathetic local vehicle manufacturing industry who can't compete with european manufacturers, or any others for that matter. Even on used vehicles as I previously mentioned. Just to add a bit more, new BMW 760LI in Germany, AU$137425 In Aus? $422000. What???

Fish78
6th February 2011, 11:29 AM
What if you dis-assembled the vehicle in the uk, split the parts between two containers and shipped them over separately a few weeks apart, minus the tyres?

101RRS
6th February 2011, 11:52 AM
While the Aust car may be worth $59,000 the imported on will be worth a lot less than the Aust sold product - insuring it will be also an issue as mainstream insurance companies are reluctant to insure imported cars - though I never had a problem with my Jag.

Also how much rust is in the UK car - it will be there.

Garry

Marshall
6th February 2011, 12:15 PM
Be prepared to pay for:
freight and insurance (for the transport of the goods to Australia);
customs duties, GST and LCT, if applicable;
storage and delivery charges;
logistic services providers' charges;
customs brokers' charges;
entry processing charges;
steam cleaning for quarantine purposes;
other wharf and transport charges; and
any costs involved in having your road vehicle meet State or Territory registration and insurance requirements.

I added this up, for a $70,000 camper, new from Germany, (RHD) it would end up costing me another $20,000 before I could drive away... still cheaper yes, but a hell of a lot of hassle. (Here, the same camper costs about $115,000...)

Look here for more info: importing a motor vehicle (http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4371.asp)
and: http://www.aqis.gov.au/ (http://www.aqis.gov.au/)

Eligibility Criteria (http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/importing_vehicles/general/EligibilityCriteria_2.aspx)

Reads90
6th February 2011, 04:29 PM
I've recently imported my Defender from the UK and found that the checks on ownership were tight. You need the registration documents in your name to prove the one year ownership, not just a receipt. Not heard anything about the over 14 years bit but mine is 15 years old and I still had to prove ownership.

Also, be prepared to be stitched up when it arrives in Australia. I was charged additional clearance fees because there were spares in the vehicle, then it was another $650 for steam cleaning (they claimed that nearly all vehicles needed it) which just wasn't done. After that there's fees for a compliance plate, safety check plate (real joke that one after having experience of the UK's MOT) then first registration, etc. It seems to go on for ever.

Best of luck.

Yeah But driving a car no one else has and most want

PRICELESS


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Bigbjorn
6th February 2011, 08:37 PM
You are supposed to own and USE the vehicle overseas for the prescribed period. You must prove that you were there. Check the commonwealth departments web site. Instructions are simple and explicit. Best way to get an import is get a pre 1989 model in right hand drive or a thirty year old in left hook.

Don't even thjink about importing a dismantled vehicle and assembling here. When you go to register it you have to show the import approval.

Reads90
6th February 2011, 08:51 PM
You are supposed to own and USE the vehicle overseas for the prescribed period. You must prove that you were there. Check the commonwealth departments web site. Instructions are simple and explicit. Best way to get an import is get a pre 1989 model in right hand drive or a thirty year old in left hook.

Don't even thjink about importing a dismantled vehicle and assembling here. When you go to register it you have to show the import approval.

I had to copy every page of my passport and send it off with the application so it proved I was living with the car for over 12 months. Which I had as I had lived with the car for 4 years

But I did all the paper work myself and found it easy and would do it again

Not as difficult as some may make it out to be ( normally these are by people who have never done it or tried it )

As for cleaning I was told before I got my car here that 99.99999999% of cars will be cleaned when they get here. Even says that in a moving to Aus book I got about 6 years ago

Easiest part by far was the compliance. They just checked the engine number and chassis number mached the paper work and the seat belts and glass were kite marked
And that was it all done in 5 mons took longer to do the modifation plate and attc it to the car

Yeah I wish I had now brought in my other 90


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pfillery
7th February 2011, 12:39 PM
Aren't there sellers on ebay who sell restored and unrestored imported cars all the time? Obviously the buyers of these do not own them for 12 months prior to importing them. Is there something they aren't telling us as buyers or do the rules differ when importing from the UK and USA?

Most notable are the mobs in Indonesia and India selling the "restored" Vespa scooters that come with paperwork and are delivered to the port of your choice. Apart from the fact that sometimes the repairs/restorations are less than satisfactory, I know of a few people who have imported these and with the provided paperwork have had no trouble registering.

LandyAndy
7th February 2011, 06:40 PM
Isnt there different rules for vintage/collectibles compared to mainstream vehicles????
Andrew

Ivan
8th February 2011, 08:31 AM
Actually you can import a vehicle built prior to January 1st 1989. See section 5 of the attached document.

HTH

Ivan

Bigbjorn
8th February 2011, 08:37 AM
Actually you can import a vehicle built prior to January 1st 1989. See section 5 of the attached document.

HTH

Ivan

That's what I said in Post #15. Note that left hand drivers need to be thirty+ years old though, to be registered.

juddy
8th February 2011, 09:51 AM
There’s no issues importing vehicles made before Jan 1st 1989, however the rules state you must prove you own it before you can get a import permit, i.e. a sales receipt will do.

Anything over 30 years old and you don’t have to pay import duty only GST.

Of course there’s, a lot more to it than that, and it’s not an easy process, and if you are not careful the cost can be very high.

That’s one reason we are bringing in the 90's in 40ft containers, job lots are more cost affective....