Annand & Thompson

[GSKeeper]

G'day All,

I don't have a Series 1 Land Rover but I have several Series 2A's.

My question is about Annand & Thompson in Brisbane.

Does anyone know weather they sold series 2 & 2A's, as I have seen a few Series 1's with the brass Annand & Thompson plates, but until today I hadn't seen them on a Series 2 or 2A.

Cheers

Ben

[Lotz-A-Landies]

No Annand and Thompson were in Newstead!

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Newstead is the other side of Fortitude Valley

[JDNSW]

Annand and Thompson certainly sold Series 2/2a - I can think of several people who bought new from them, at least one I can date to 1965 (would be a 2a), and I was buying parts from them in the first half of the sixties.

I have never seen a brass plate from them though, possibly because I haven't looked for one, but it is quite possible they stopped fitting them at some stage.

John

[GSKeeper]

Well I was generalising... Newstead is in Brisbane? Just interested in their history.

Cheers

Ben

[JDNSW]

Well I was generalising... Newstead is in Brisbane? Just interested in their history.

Cheers

Ben

Unless things have been reorganised since last time I looked, Newstead is well within the area covered by Brisbane City Council, so calling it part of Brisbane is in my view, perfectly legitimate.

John

[GSKeeper]

Thanks JDNSW,

It appears to have a lot of Series 2 or early Series 2A fixtures. I wasn't in a position get any serial numbers unfortunatly.. They may have stopped adding the brass name plates early on?

Cheers

Ben

[JDNSW]

Thanks JDNSW,

It appears to have a lot of Series 2 or early Series 2A fixtures. I wasn't in a position get any serial numbers unfortunatly.. They may have stopped adding the brass name plates early on?

Cheers

Ben

Quite possible that they did. I don't know when they faded from the scene, but I have the impression they were still going when I moved to Melbourne in 1970, or certainly when I moved to PNG in 1969 (which is when I sold my 2a, and did not own a Landrover again until 1991).

John

[Bigbjorn]

They were distributors, in Breakfast Creek Road, Newstead, an inner suburb. Sold Rovers and Land Rovers for yonks. They ceased to be LR distributors in 1973 when Leyland Truck and Bus took over distribution. Leyland T&B ran the dealer network in Qld. and northern NSW and were the Brisbane retail outlet. A&T used to import direct (distributors), ran their own dealer network not all of whom were confirmed by Leyland T&B, and retailed from their Newstead premises. A&T used to have made the infamous "Hedges Hardtop" for Land Rovers, all steel and minimal rust proofing. We at Leyalnd T&B were given A&T's delivery & warranty record cards but these did not survive the 1974 flood when the Leyland building went some 20' under.

[scarry]

I do remember one thing about them,the old man coming home in the early seventies complaining about their workmanship on the company LR's:(

Some things dont seem to change

[lro11]

Ben, I took this photo on the way home one day not realizing that under the Newstead Mitsubishi sign was the Annand & Thompson remains, sadly it was demolished a week later, a group of series one mates wanted to park their cars out front for a photo but never happened.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Some things dont seem to changeJust the dealers.


... We at Leyalnd T&B were given A&T's delivery & warranty record cards but these did not survive the 1974 flood when the Leyland building went some 20' under.I always wondered about the A&T books, it's sad that they weren't preserved the same as the Grenville allocations books.


... as I have seen a few Series 1's with the brass Annand & Thompson plates, but until today I hadn't seen them on a Series 2 or 2A. ...The little brass A&T plate on my 1951 80" were originally nickel plated with blue paint inlaid into the etched parts. They were later replaced with a photo etched plate and still later by a sticker, all the same colours and size.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/7.jpg

The A&T heavy duty conditions plate is so much better than the Grenville Motors one of the same vintage!

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/76.jpg

[lro11]

Found this too I bought this at a swap last year an original sales brochure

[UncleHo]

G'day Folks :)

I worked for A&T during the mid 60's after returning to Qld when my marrage broke up, they were Rover, Landrover and VW agents, drove my first 1500 sedan then, and found out that to select reverse you do NOT LIFT the lever (Morris Minor style) at the corner of Queen and Albert Sts to reverse park out side the T& G building, lever comes out in your hand :(

As GS keeper stated, when I passed there last month it was a big hole in the ground :( one of my weekly jobs was to take Mr Thompson's Rover 105R over to the detailing dept at Appolo Rd Bulimba and wash/vaccuum his Deep Green Saloon :D loved the handbrake on the floor,it went very well, I still have some service letters signed by George Heirdsfield, between 63 and 66 and some Landrover & accessories pricelists from 1962

also the original service letter stating that with Michelin "X" radial tyres to set the Toe-In on Landrovers to "Zero" service letter 5/65 dated March 1965 :)



cheers

[GSKeeper]

G'day Uncle,

Some interesting history their re: A&T, explains your dept of knowled regarding all things Rover..

I don't really need another Landy (not that this has ever stopped me before:)) but this particular vehicle is of interest because of it's Brisbane background (me being a S/E Qld boy) N.B also has Pressed Metal Company plate...did they all come through Sydney?

While it appears very original except for the Holden 186, it is "Very" tired and has been sitting of an unknown number of years..... I would just like to save it from going to China as scrap because that's where it is headed:(.

I might have to go back for another look;), and maybe get a couple of photo's.

Ben

[Lotz-A-Landies]

N.B also has Pressed Metal Company plate...did they all come through Sydney?Ben

Pressed Metal Corporation was the Australian Assembly plant (part of LNC Industries) that took over the contract of all Australian assembly of Land Rover from the middle of the 1950s.

Annand and Thompson sourced some of it's stock direct from the U.K. and some from Pressed Metals. In fact it seems that all the major state distributors used to swap stock back and forth depending upon local need. This is evidenced by the Grenville Motors books having frequent notations where an entire batch would be sent to another distributor and "repaid" by another batch of subsequent vehicles.

Diana

[UncleHo]

G'day Lotz-A-Landies :)

Yup! new vehicle and parts stock transfer, boy did it cause headaches :(
almost as bad as trying to keep track of warranty claims from country dealers :mad: and then trying to get it approved by Solihull, all this in the days before computers, with the transfers hand written mostly, and communication with UK by Telex the answers which could take months:(

But, I liked the old cardex system, could not disappear with a touch of the "Delete" button, as happens now :wasntme:

cheers

[incisor]

But, I liked the old cardex system, could not disappear with a touch of the "Delete" button, as happens now :wasntme:

water sorted that tho in 74 :p

[ozrob55]

i worked for annand and thompsom as a mechanic they were at 32 ross st newsted and yes they did have the plate fitted to the in side fire wall on 2 and 2a

[scarry]

Just for interest,what year did they stop selling LR's?

I am pretty sure my fathers company series 3's were purchased from them.

One was drowned on Fraser island,and it went for repair at A&T around the early/mid 70's.

[B.S.F.]

i worked for annand and thompsom as a mechanic they were at 32 ross st newsted and yes they did have the plate fitted to the in side fire wall on 2 and 2a

Are you sure it was a plate and not an alloy sticker ? .W.

[Scallops]

Just for interest,what year did they stop selling LR's?


They were delisted from the ASX in October 1971.....

ANNAND AND THOMPSON HOLDINGS LIMITED - Company Profile and Status at deListed Australia (http://www.delisted.com.au/company/annand-and-thompson-holdings-limited)

[Bigbjorn]

They were delisted from the ASX in October 1971.....

ANNAND AND THOMPSON HOLDINGS LIMITED - Company Profile and Status at deListed Australia (http://www.delisted.com.au/company/annand-and-thompson-holdings-limited)

Probably delisted because they were no longer a public company with traded shares. They held the Land Rover franchise until 30/6/73. Leyland Truck and Bus Division became the distributor for Qld. and Northern NSW and the Brisbane retail outlet on 1/7/73.

Uncle Ho worked there. He may know the story.

[Scallops]

Probably delisted because they were no longer a public company with traded shares. They held the Land Rover franchise until 30/6/73. Leyland Truck and Bus Division became the distributor for Qld. and Northern NSW and the Brisbane retail outlet on 1/7/73.

Uncle Ho worked there. He may know the story.

Righto - but I provide a factual timeframe....genuinly interested in some evidence for your date......I cannot find any reference beyond '71..... and perhaps somewhat unrelated, although....A&T related.... can you, or the good Uncle, as knowledgeble folk on all things A&T, answer my question in the SLOW area then? :D

[Bigbjorn]

Righto - but I provide a factual timeframe....genuinly interested in some evidence for your date......I cannot find any reference beyond '71..... and perhaps somewhat unrelated, although....A&T related.... can you, or the good Uncle, as knowledgeble folk on all things A&T, answer my question in the SLOW area then? :D

I am sure of the dates as that was when I was employed by Leyland to handle wholesale distribution. Leyland Truck & Bus prior to this was a retail outlet, no dealer network, selling trucks, buses, tractors. We had to set up a wholesale operation and dealer network to handle the LR/RR volume.

A&T were still going in 1975-76 when the first VW Golf was released. I went to the pre-release ****-up.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Moderator Hat On.

This is sounding very close to a personal attack. We don't want them here in the series section.

If you think the information needs clarification, say what you have and don't frame it that you only want facts because the previous member posted urban myth. (paraphrasing here)

Otherwise we will be asking members to cite references from peer reviewed scientific and industrial journals.

It's not what we want here.

Diana

[gromit]

Trade practices case against them in 1977
https://jade.barnet.com.au/Jade.html#!article=192775


Colin

[Landy Smurf]

Moderator Hat On.

Otherwise we will be asking members to cite references from peer reviewed scientific and industrial journals.

It's not what we want here.

Diana

We definitely don't want that :(

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Back on the subject, when I first got my ex-RACQ 80" in 2005, I contacted a company in SEQ trading under the name of Annand & Thompson. They were vehicle brokers and had some relationship to either the Thompson or Annand families. They were not a dealer, but arranged the purchase of specific vehicles to customer's order.

[gromit]

They were delisted from the ASX in October 1971.....

ANNAND AND THOMPSON HOLDINGS LIMITED - Company Profile and Status at deListed Australia (http://www.delisted.com.au/company/annand-and-thompson-holdings-limited)

Details above show that they were taken over by LNC holdings (Lark Neave & Carter). Some more info on the VeeDub website 1970 - 1974 - Club VeeDub (http://www.clubvw.org.au/history005)
LNC taken over by Permewan Wright Consolidated in 1984.

I found an Annand & Thompson Holdings still registered. Trading in QLD but registered in NSW, maybe this is the company you referred to Diana ?


Colin

[mick88]

Resurrecting an old thread, but I found this sticker on an 88" 2A wreck that I have. It is a suffix B and CalVIN tells me it is a 1963-66 era manufactured vehicle. Original colour is yellow too, so perhaps the original purchaser was DCA, or some other government dept.




Cheers, Mick.

[Lionelgee]

Hello All,

A further resurrection of an old thread. I had a look around my latest acquisition a 2A short wheel base made in 1970 and it has a black background with silver writing metal plate pop riveted on to the firewall shelf just off to the left of the steering column.

There is a brass plate on the same shelf located close to the driver's door. It is too dark to read it or photograph both plates at the moment. I will try photographing them in day light and I will post them up.

It is good to have a plate that identifies where the vehicle was first sold from. I suppose the 1974 floods would have ruined any paper work that captured the information about who the first owner's were.

Kind Regards
Lionel

[JDNSW]

Resurrecting an old thread, but I found this sticker on an 88" 2A wreck that I have. It is a suffix B and CalVIN tells me it is a 1963-66 era manufactured vehicle. Original colour is yellow too, so perhaps the original purchaser was DCA, or some other government dept.




Cheers, Mick.

In that period the Department of National Development, I believe, was buying Landrovers and assigning them to a variety of Commonwealth departments and agencies, including DCA, OTC, and BMR, but other less well known ones as well. And they were all yellow, having changed to yellow from rescue orange in about 1956. PMG (not a major Landrover user) got their own, in red.

[Bigbjorn]

Leyland Truck & Bus commenced operations as the Land & Range Rover distributor for Qld. & Northern Rivers on 1/7/73. A&T were supposed to stop selling as of the day before but may have had a very few vehicles in stock or as work in progress and delivered them after 30/6/73. T&B bought a swag of parts and components from A&T. Lots of optional items, brush guards, hardtops, station wagon doors, tyres & rims, fuel tanks and so on. Their Wholesale Sales Manager came to work for Leyland, didn't impress anyone, left to open his own dealership in a Qld. country town. Went broke quickly. The A&T delivery, warranty, and service record cards were handed over to T&B and started with their very first Land Rover. After the 1974 flood these were a congealed mass of cardboard pulp and went to the tip.

[Carlo]

In that period the Department of National Development, I believe, was buying Landrovers and assigning them to a variety of Commonwealth departments and agencies, including DCA, OTC, and BMR, but other less well known ones as well. And they were all yellow, having changed to yellow from rescue orange in about 1956. PMG (not a major Landrover user) got their own, in red.


I own an Australian probably CKD 1949 built Series 1 which appears to be yellow painted over the original bronze green and i have been told it was a Government car.

[Northern Lander]

I own an Australian probably CKD 1949 built Series 1 which appears to be yellow painted over the original bronze green and i have been told it was a Government car.

Do you have any pictures?