How do Vic Water Authorities calculate Water Usage per household 155 litre per person

[It'sNotWorthComplaining!]

I wonder at how the Vic governments target of 155 litres per person is based. On the News it is reported we are not adhering to this target and are over all the time.
Do they just take the daily consumption and divide it amongst us and average out a usage per person?
I know a lot of us are not using that much water these days, and I presume the Breweries and the Coca Colas and other beverage makers are all still guzzling away their massive volumes of fresh water every day?
So is their consumption then added on to the average house holders usage in the distribution of water usage calculations, making the average Joe left feeling guilty that they are not fulfilling the expected target?
It's not just the actual product made, water is also wasted in washing the containers that the product is finally filled into, and cleaning of factory floors etc. So who is really wasting all our precious water?
Just wondering every time I hear WE are not conserving.

[Hucksta]

They can't,

it is pure and simple and it just shows how arrogant this government in Victoria has become. I cannot believe that there are people out there that even think that the government can get an accurate idea on how much water we use, it is purely an expensive media campaign run by a desperate and incompetant government. (don't worry, the other side probably would be no better)

I have heard a number of interviews on radio where Tim HOLDING and BRUMBY were asked how they would guage water usage and they bumbled through the answer. They tried to answer in a way that I'm sure they hoped that people would believe that they (the govt) would no if you use too much when in actual fact it was plainly obvious that they had absolutely no idea.

Recently they have been giving exemptions to race courses, golf courses, industry while they expect the pesky human to shower with a bucket and blah blah blah ... morons.

Anyway, we don't have restrictions where we live but we still use water wisely. Target 155 is a stupid media campaign and that is all it is ....

That's my bit ... back to the cricket

jason

[Bytemrk]

I'm with Jason,

It's all just smoke and mirrors... Yes we all need to save water down here.. but the 155 litre thing is a joke..

Where did they pull that number from anyway? :angel:

My household of 4 averages around 55 litres per person per day... and has for the last few years.

I'm no water nazi... we're not standing in buckets in the shower or bathing in yesterdays washing up water :eek::eek: , I haven't even bothered getting a tank yet! All we do is a few simple things.... front loading washing machine - (saves heaps,) We don't water the garden - if it dies, it was the wrong plant to be there.

That's about our total effort! None of us stands in the shower for hours... but honestly showers are often longer than what the authorities recommend... ( And yes to head off the smart comments... all 4 of us do shower every day :p)

Just shows this "Target" some bureaucrat pulled out of his orifice isn't actually that hard to achieve.

If they would only stop the advertising spend... and funnel it into actually doing something useful we would all be a little happier I think.


Mark

[bussy1963]

Did you see the news reports last week about the train crisis. In one news bulletin it shows a guy standing on the rail lines with a hose watering tthe lines.

What a waste of water there the lines wont grow and there was no trains to run on them anyway

[81stubee]

I don't really think that average melbournians are the problem.

In about 2004 I was working as a sparky in Large domestic houses. We built one new house in brighton and the mains to the house had to be upgraded to supply the shower heads, which were of about 30cm diameter.

I don't currently get a water bill as i'm in a multiple rental house where the bill is paid by the landlord.

I think it may be something to do with social engineering or some bulls$%t like that, to encourage a goal.

And yes industry needs to stop using water as well.

Stu

[Bytemrk]

Did you see the news reports last week about the train crisis. In one news bulletin it shows a guy standing on the rail lines with a hose watering tthe lines.

What a waste of water there the lines wont grow and there was no trains to run on them anyway


Lol yep .... Probably an advertising executive... ensuring the need for the next campaign.

:wasntme:

[Bytemrk]

In about 2004 I was working as a sparky in Large domestic houses. We built one new house in brighton and the mains to the house had to be upgraded to supply the shower heads, which were of about 30cm diameter.

Stu


Hey Stu,

As a sparky I'd rather you kept your mains well away from my shower :eek::eek: :p

But you are dead right, it's not the average punter in the street that is the problem.

Mark

[vnx205]

[quote=Bytemrk;910139... ... ... ...... ... ...... all 4 of us do shower every day :p)
[/quote]
All at the same time or separately? :p Maybe that's where you get your savings. :D

[Bytemrk]

All at the same time or separately? :p Maybe that's where you get your savings. :D

hahaha....... every site has one :p





How come we have hundreds :eek::eek::eek:


Umm.. no btw.;)

Mark

[vnx205]

Someone was bound to ask the question. It just happened to be my turn to get in first this time. :p

Not all water saving measures are of the same value to everyone. Some people are already quite economical in their use of water.

When I got my free water saving showerhead from the local council, I found it made no difference at all.

Instead of a different showerhead, it was just a traditional shower rose with a flow restrictor.

The reason it made no difference was that it was already my habit to turn the shower on just enough to get an acceptable flow.

The new water saving shower was delivering the same flow that I had become used to.

Mind you when my teenage niece came to visit, it probably saved several kilolitres.

[CraigE]

It is the same in most states an is really a maximum we should be using. As there are so many variables the actual individual usage varies greatly. A lot of people make statements of less useage, and while that is fine, the figures are calculated on a property having scheme water usage only.
Things taken into account are 2 reasonable showers per person per day, garden water (which is generally the biggest user if you have big lawns), average laundry washing loads, generic use for washing cars etc, average toilet flushes, air conditioners. If we look at it the 155l per person is quite generous. Of course if you own a pool you may not think so, but exemptions can be obtained for initially filling a pool or refilling.
We are way under, I think we average about 25-30 litres per person per day or less as we have rain water and a bore for the garden.
It is something that is relative and there is no clear answer. Ultimatally we should use as little as possible anyway.