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disco td5 x2
8th February 2009, 10:25 AM
Hi all im a bit new 2 this but here goes i have been working on my 2001 td5 manual disco for the last wk i started doing a coolant hose and have ended up taking the warped exhaust manifold off tar like filled inlet manifold off oil clogged inter cooler out and egr system out and through my research have found out that this system is a waste of time so i found on td5alive the kit u need 2 eliminate this system i then asked my good friend round whom works for a laser cutting engineer firm 2 find out if he can laser cut the blanking plate for the exhaust manifold and the flange for the inlet manifold which he has said he can out of mild steel stainless or ally they also do ally,stainless and mild steel welding at this company so depending on price i can have these parts made out of what ever i want i an going 4 304 stainless i hope 2 have it all made this wk as i need my beast back on the road if any 1 has any questions i`ll b happy 2 help i shoud have a price mid wk for all types of material and when they are made i shall post some pics hope this helps people . andy

long stroke
8th February 2009, 10:28 AM
It will be good to see it once it's done:)
Welcome by the way!

CHEERS TIM.

Basil135
9th February 2009, 01:05 PM
I know there are a few people on this site that are selling the EGR kits, and whilst not wanting to take business away from them, I am wondering if anyone would be willing to post the measurements of the various components?

I, like some others, have access to the various materials & know-how (ok, its called a Mate who is a boiler maker ;) ), but need the measurements. Some diagrams would be even better, cause he works better with pictures...

So, is this possible, or am i going to have to delve into the bag of reasons to find one for SWMBO?

XSiV
9th February 2009, 01:18 PM
I bought a kit last year, only fitted it this weekend and I realised I need two extra blanks for the heat exchanger, so if you could get your mate to whip up a couple of blanks I'b be happy to fix you up for the cost and postage.

Cheers

Josh

disco td5 x2
9th February 2009, 03:38 PM
I have done some more research today and have been told that it best 2 use mild steel 2 make my egr bypass so i told my mate that is the way 2 go but i will get the inlet part powdercoted as as they do that out at the enginering place 2 it going 2 b cheeper than stainless and stonger than ally . as for the blanking plates i will get a price off him tomorrow and let you no .

Tombie
9th February 2009, 04:08 PM
Optimum...

Exhaust - Mild Steel (Same expansion rate as manifold)

Inlet - Alloy - Same expansion rate as inlet...

And hint... Use sentences and paragraphs - not continuous typing, easier to read!

disco td5 x2
9th February 2009, 04:08 PM
Hey basil how bout u have the fun of stripping the system down your self if u want 2 get the measurments that much dont ask me to tell u i have got 2 td5s 2 doit to thats why my mate is building these kits for me so i no each 1 is exactly the same and will never fail .

Tombie
9th February 2009, 04:09 PM
BY THE WAY....

Blatant advertising on this board I'm sure breaches the AUP and :rulez:

[FishSlap]

Psimpson7
9th February 2009, 04:33 PM
So if you are not making any money, why won't you let Basil know the measurements..? Quite a lot of people on here put themselves out to help others. Good on you for helping. Its not always easy to pull apart your own car to do stuff if you need it every day.

I seriously doubt that you will get them made quicker than local or even UK based supply. I would be confident that if you ordered through Devon 4x4 or similar in the UK you would have the kit in under a week, and I am also sure a OZ supplier would be quicker still.

You're not coming across very well here.....

Tombie
9th February 2009, 04:35 PM
Hey basil how bout u have the fun of stripping the system down your self if u want 2 get the measurments that much dont ask me to tell u i have got 2 td5s 2 doit to thats why my mate is building these kits for me so i no each 1 is exactly the same and will never fail .

Basil

This bloke is obviously an abusive, rude individual...

I'll measure one up for you and post the dimensions here....

Psimpson7
9th February 2009, 04:36 PM
Good on you Tombie. I was considering removing mine to do the same.

incisor
9th February 2009, 04:56 PM
the man has been infracted for a personal attack.

why cant people take note of the conditions of access.

please dont quote posts you know are in breach of the conditions of access, just means i have to delete your posts as well...

Camo
9th February 2009, 04:59 PM
Yeah sorry my bad:(

He was an angry man though!

p38arover
9th February 2009, 05:10 PM
Mod Hat off

What a way to get people off-side! Your approach and language has really turned a few of us against you. You'll have to work hard to come back from the hole you've dug for yourself! :mad:

Mod Hat on

Tombie
9th February 2009, 05:20 PM
See this thread for the sketch...

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/72945-egr-removal-sketch.html

No abuse necessary....:angel:

disco td5 x2
10th February 2009, 09:07 AM
If u want the best for your car u get it made properly or bye a made one but hey i just like things done rite and tidy . Im sorry for the abuse but i was only trying to help and im not making money fromthis. I did not want to give out the measurements in case i get something wrong then you spend time making the part and it turns out to be wrong because i made a mistake. Also i dont have the parts as my friend has them to measure them and cut them. I dont mind getting the flat parts cut for u and you just get the tube flanged at a exhaust place like i am and you weld it yourself like i am . once again im sorry for my outburst and it wont happen again .

discowhite
11th February 2009, 06:20 AM
I bought a kit last year, only fitted it this weekend and I realised I need two extra blanks for the heat exchanger, so if you could get your mate to whip up a couple of blanks I'b be happy to fix you up for the cost and postage.

Cheers

Josh


why??? just remove the heat exchanger and join the water lines together;)

cheers phil

XSiV
11th February 2009, 09:24 AM
why??? just remove the heat exchanger and join the water lines together;)

cheers phil

Phil you are full of brilliant ideas! I was actually thinking of leaving it in-situ so i could utilise it for a water heater for a bush shower or some such.

I saw a thread somewhere (by inc perhaps?) about trying to get something working and i thought I'd leave it in place just in case they were successful or perhaps I myself might try and jimmy something up when I get the time.

Cheers

Josh

PS I'm going to whip up a couple blanks my self on the weekend if I get the time.

discowhite
11th February 2009, 11:07 AM
i honestly dont think its anywhere near big enough for a shower, and besides it has to be re connected for the exhaust gas to pass through...

cheers phil

Redback
11th February 2009, 11:51 AM
Phil you are full of brilliant ideas! I was actually thinking of leaving it in-situ so i could utilise it for a water heater for a bush shower or some such.

I saw a thread somewhere (by inc perhaps?) about trying to get something working and i thought I'd leave it in place just in case they were successful or perhaps I myself might try and jimmy something up when I get the time.

Cheers

Josh

PS I'm going to whip up a couple blanks my self on the weekend if I get the time.

Get Tony to do it, while he's making my R & R Beadbreaker adaptor:D

XSiV
11th February 2009, 12:22 PM
i honestly dont think its anywhere near big enough for a shower, and besides it has to be re connected for the exhaust gas to pass through...

cheers phil

Hmmm good point, me thinks I might just spend the time removing the heat exchanger than making extra blanks it'l probably take me less time. I can always refit it at a later date if needs be.

I have to say I'm glad I removed the EGR, my engine was so lacking in anything down low and seemed to take for ever to spool up the turbo. It seems a lot better now. When I pulled the EGR out it was pretty gunked up inside.

My next thing is to get a 3" dump pipe like yours with a vortex.

Gold_TD5
11th February 2009, 06:52 PM
what is the heat exchanger?:confused:
where is the heat echanger?:confused:

XSiV
12th February 2009, 09:09 AM
what is the heat exchanger?:confused:
where is the heat echanger?:confused:

It's on the later model Td5's, mines a 2003, not sure when they started adding them, it's a thing on the front of the engine that the pipe to the egr from the exhaust goes through.

Gold_TD5
12th February 2009, 03:51 PM
It's on the later model Td5's, mines a 2003, not sure when they started adding them, it's a thing on the front of the engine that the pipe to the egr from the exhaust goes through.

That would be the dirty thing that was dumping exhaust gas in to my nice almost clean inlet manifold that I threw away with the EGR when I fitted the blanking kit and EGR eliminator.
Mine is also a 2003, what did you you do with the two vacum lines that are attached to the EGR?
I just looped them together so there is no vacum leak.
So far the cars seems to run fine with no ill effects.

I must say that my exhaust emissions have cleaned right up since fitting the EGR elininator kit.
There used be a black cloud issue from the tail pipe that blotted out any following cars, now barely a wisper of smoke to be seen.
You have to wonder how something like that could be passed off as an aid in reducing emissions.
Not forgetting that the car runs stronger and smoother without all that crap hanging off the engine.

discowhite
12th February 2009, 03:56 PM
dont loop them together! just plug them with the shank of a bolt or a nice new shiny ball bearing.
with them looped the EGR modulater will be getting mixed signals.

cheers phil

Psimpson7
12th February 2009, 04:04 PM
I removed every part of my EGR setup, including all the modules and so on.

aew849
12th February 2009, 04:51 PM
Great thread with good guff about the EGR issue. Cheers chaps.

I have a kit inbound from pommyland and can't wait to get it fitted.

With the airbox tidied up (de-hycloned), new air filter, a cleaned up exhaust (bellowed flex joined removed), snorkel fitted and an ecu almost back through the door after Tombie2's help....standby for a low flying Deefer !! Well compared the the standard truck anyway.:cool:

aew849
04 130 DCPU

Gold_TD5
12th February 2009, 06:28 PM
Great thread with good guff about the EGR issue. Cheers chaps.

I have a kit inbound from pommyland and can't wait to get it fitted.

With the airbox tidied up (de-hycloned), new air filter, a cleaned up exhaust (bellowed flex joined removed), snorkel fitted and an ecu almost back through the door after Tombie2's help....standby for a low flying Deefer !! Well compared the the standard truck anyway.:cool:

aew849
04 130 DCPU

So whats the best way to elimiate the bellows type flex joint?
Is a flex joint really needed, seems a car gets along fine without one?
The complete exhaust is rubber mounted so fibes and flex should not be a problem?????

discowhite
13th February 2009, 06:11 AM
the flex joint is there to take the added flex of the whole system off the exhaust manifold. too much shaking and it will crack. (manifold)
the bellows is replaced by a woven S/S flex joint that has a larger ID.

cheers phil

disco td5 x2
13th February 2009, 07:19 AM
I got the inlet manifold off yesterday and i was very shocked how much crap was in side it and when i was washing it with the gerni i noticed there were in a couple of ports some flakes of ali blew off maybe something to watch out for if your cleaning it out the im unhappy at the fact i cant clean the head as i have cleaned everything else but hey i have striped enough off the front of the car i cant belive that car makers can make these cars with such big defects in them to have all that crap going in to yor cars engine i was also told to drill out the outer holes in the manifold if that helps any 1 cheers

Pedro_The_Swift
13th February 2009, 07:27 AM
I think its more important to grind away the webbing inbetween the ports,,,
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/40363-td5-manifold-modification.html

discowhite
13th February 2009, 08:00 AM
I got the inlet manifold off yesterday and i was very shocked how much crap was in side it and when i was washing it with the gerni i noticed there were in a couple of ports some flakes of ali blew off maybe something to watch out for if your cleaning it out the im unhappy at the fact i cant clean the head as i have cleaned everything else but hey i have striped enough off the front of the car i cant belive that car makers can make these cars with such big defects in them to have all that crap going in to yor cars engine i was also told to drill out the outer holes in the manifold if that helps any 1 cheers


On the exhaust manifold! NOT the intake!

cheers phil

disco td5 x2
17th February 2009, 01:54 PM
there would b no point drilling the holes out on the inlet as it does not got hot enough for it 2 warp but thanks for that useless point

Psimpson7
17th February 2009, 02:04 PM
there would b no point drilling the holes out on the inlet as it does not got hot enough for it 2 warp but thanks for that useless point

Polite and helpful as ever......

FenianEel
17th February 2009, 02:12 PM
Hey disco td5 x2,
Can I buy you 2 egr kits?
Send me your address and I'll walk to your place using dingo traps as shoes and hand deliver em.
It'll be less painful than reading these threads :D

Camo
17th February 2009, 02:16 PM
x2 for me aswell for the rangie and SS :D

abaddonxi
17th February 2009, 02:40 PM
there would b no point drilling the holes out on the inlet as it does not got hot enough for it 2 warp but thanks for that useless point

Ever considered visiting LandyZone?

LandyZone - Land Rover Forum (http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/)

I suspect it might be a forum more suited to you.

Cheers
Simon

Psimpson7
17th February 2009, 02:45 PM
I was going to suggest www.handbag.com (http://www.handbag.com) ;)

discowhite
17th February 2009, 02:55 PM
there would b no point drilling the holes out on the inlet as it does not got hot enough for it 2 warp but thanks for that useless point

if you would actuall read your own post you half wit (yes that was a personal attack, sue me bitch) it reads as one sentance as there are no punctuation marks SO IT READS LIKE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE F IN INLET!!!!.


here it is incase you missed it

Originally Posted by disco td5 x2 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/768.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/72850-egr-valve-s-every1-post914769.html#post914769)
I got the inlet manifold off yesterday and i was very shocked at how much crap was in side it.... (and) When i was washing it with the gerni i noticed there were in a couple of ports some flakes of (ali) alloy blew off maybe something to watch out for if your cleaning it out.... (the) I'm unhappy at the fact i cant clean the head as i have cleaned everything else,,,, but hey i have striped enough off the front of the car and i cant belive that car makers can make these cars with such big defects in them to have all that crap going in to (yor)your cars engine i was also told to drill out the outer holes in the manifold (???inlet or exhaust???) if that helps any 1 cheers



CAN SOME ONE BAN THIS TOOL??????

cheers phil

Camo
17th February 2009, 02:57 PM
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incisor
17th February 2009, 03:39 PM
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Psimpson7
17th February 2009, 03:44 PM
Outlaw told him:D

Camo
17th February 2009, 03:44 PM
I was going to suggest www.handbag.com (http://www.handbag.com) ;)

and what about pete aye aye! :eek:

Gold_TD5
18th February 2009, 11:34 AM
Got to say I find everyone here quite polite and helpful, I don't think we need sarcasm when someone is trying to help or clarify a point.
Take note dico td5x2.

disco td5 x2
22nd February 2009, 04:20 PM
any 1 no if its ok 2 replace the 4 out side exhaust manifold studs with 10 mm ones ?

rovercare
22nd February 2009, 04:28 PM
any 1 no if its ok 2 replace the 4 out side exhaust manifold studs with 10 mm ones ?

We do, but we're not gonna tell ya:p