White lettering on tyres

[B92 8NW]

Has anyone heard of it being advisable to rotate tyres from side to side off the rim so that the tyre rolls in the same direction? Supposedly I need to do this but that would mean the white lettering then faces out.

[V8Ian]

Yes, it was a theory bandied around a few years back. Reversing the rotation was supposed to loosen the belts on a radial.

[Redback]

Has anyone heard of it being advisable to rotate tyres from side to side off the rim so that the tyre rolls in the same direction? Supposedly I need to do this but that would mean the white lettering then faces out.

No I've never heard of this, I have heard of going corner to corner (ie) left rear to right front, which does this, most tyres are non-directional unless there a tractor type tread pattern, on constant 4WDs it's recommend to put front to rear AND incorperate the spare into the rotation.


Baz.

[B92 8NW]

Yes, it was a theory bandied around a few years back. Reversing the rotation was supposed to loosen the belts on a radial.

Ahh.

My tyre bloke reckons I've worn the outside edge from "excessively hard cornering". The inside edge looks less worn, and its apparent on both the front and rear and isn't an alignment issue.

[stevo68]

Whats wrong with having the white lettering on the outside :confused:....

Regards

Stevo

[crash]

To me it sounds like an alignment problem.
Have you checked the tyre pressures? If they are under inflated you would expect both the outside and inside of the tread to have worn similar. (over inflated and the mid of tread would be worn more)

[dickyjoe]

White lettering on the outside sometimes looks a bit blerk

[B92 8NW]

Whats wrong with having the white lettering on the outside :confused:....

Regards

Stevo

Nothing wrong per se Stevo, it's just a preference thing:D.

[B92 8NW]

To me it sounds like an alignment problem.
Have you checked the tyre pressures? If they are under inflated you would expect both the outside and inside of the tread to have worn similar. (over inflated and the mid of tread would be worn more)

I might have used the wrong word in saying worn:D. I should say the square outside tread blocks have slightly rounded as distinct from the inside ones which are still relatively square.

(not my pic, but they're pretty square to start with)

http://www.landyonline.co.za/techtalk/techtalk_images/bfg_AT_tread.jpg

[Utemad]

I just swap my rims/tyres front to back on the same side.
Don't incorporate the spare as it is a well used one.

They say this in the owners manual. Seems odd to me.

ALWAYS use the same make and type of
radial-ply tyres front and rear.
DO NOT use cross-ply tyres, or interchange tyres from
front to rear.

So I assume they want you to swap the tyres side to side as opposed to front to rear.
I'd rather the edge wear (from being on the front) is spread around all the tyres.

[V8Ian]

Ahh.

My tyre bloke reckons I've worn the outside edge from "excessively hard cornering". The inside edge looks less worn, and its apparent on both the front and rear and isn't an alignment issue.

Sounds like toe in issues to me, most tyre services lack the equipment to fully/correctly align 4X4s

[isuzurover]

I have always swapped radials side-side and f-r. 5 wheel rotation on one vehicle and 4-wheel on the other. I have been through 4 sets of radials like this on 2 landies with no issues.

As mentioned, in the early days of radials, it was thought that you shouldn't rotate them side-side, only front-back.

This site lists all the options and which is best:
Tyre rotation (http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/passenger/care/rotation.aspx)

[barney]

i gather from your description, your suggestion as to take them off the rim and put the side wall that was on the inside -out. all you have to do to make them roll the other way is swap them from one side of the car to the other, and your white lettering still faces in.
the problems with having white lettering out are many:-
it looks gay!
if you have a tendency to scrub your tyres against the gutter when parking, you end up with crappy looking white wall tyres - not only does this look suss, it also advertises that you are a lousy driver, this is why my lettering is facing inwards.
it gets dirty and to make it white again you are constantly having to scrub it.
and did i mention it looks gay!:eek:

now to your tyre wear problem, the advice you got from the tyre got is half right, cornering hard with underinflated tyres for a long time will scrub out the outside edge of the tyre. you don't get it on both sides because the tyre has less weight on it, due to body roll and centrifugal force, when it is on the inside of the corner and therefore doesn't wear as much rubber off the inside edge of the tyre.
where when the tyre is on the outside edge of the corner, it takes most of the weight and the tyre rolls under, effectively putting must of the car's weight on the outside egde of the tyre.

put some more air in your tyres!

[loanrangie]

Whats wrong with having the white lettering on the outside :confused:....

Regards

Stevo

Because its so 70's landlooser :o.

[B92 8NW]

Because its so 70's landlooser :o.

Ahh someone finally said it!

thnx Nick:cool:

[rick130]

Yes, it was a theory bandied around a few years back. Reversing the rotation was supposed to loosen the belts on a radial.

That's what I was always told too, and my current tyre bloke (ex rally driver) says he used to be told the same thing so we always keep the direction of rotation the same when we rotate tyres.

[stevo68]

Youch :p.......here I am with my first set of muddies ever and I luurrrrvveeee the white lettering. What was really great was it started out blue :D ala:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/10/904.jpg

Now it is white :cool::

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/03/1017.jpg

Ok a muddy kinda white. Now if some of you are telling me Smokey is a gay landlooser well [FishSlap] to you :p. This is gay...sorry Camo :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/295.jpg

Regards

Stevo...lovin his white lettering....next Ill be putting on lambo scissor doors on :whistling:

[rick130]

Because its so 70's landlooser :o.

I know, but I just wore it when I ran BFG's.
With the Maxxis 255/85's the sidewalls are black so no more problem when we switch them around.

[rick130]

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What was really great was it started out blue :D ala:
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Stevo...lovin his white lettering....next Ill be putting on lambo scissor doors on :whistling:

umm, didn't anyone at the tyre service mention a bit of warm water to wash the protective film off :p

[Outlaw]

nothing wrong with some scissor doors Stevo... think they'll look great on my fender :D

[stevo68]

umm, didn't anyone at the tyre service mention a bit of warm water to wash the protective film off :pHmm...ok confession.....no they didnt...I thought that it was meant to be blue:angel:. Cool I thought...different from white. Wasnt until someone who thinks it is funny to have
Whats wrong with having the white lettering on the outside :confused: in their signature...told me before heading off on a trip that it was a protective film as he then showed how it rubbed off ;).

Anyway I am a child of the 60's...so having cool 70's white lettering is appropriate :p,

Regards

Stevo

[rick130]

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Anyway I am a child of the 60's...so having cool 70's white lettering is appropriate :p,

Regards

Stevo


Oh how I begged Dad to buy a set of Sunraysias and fit Desert Dogs (in the then huge 31/10.5/15) to our Jeep Wagoneer back in the mid seventies :D
He wouldn't be in it. :(

[hook]

Ahh.

My tyre bloke reckons I've worn the outside edge from
"excessively hard cornering".
The inside edge looks less worn, and its apparent on both the front and rear and isn't an alignment issue.

Change your driving style.

buy a white paint pen from Officeworks.

they look Banana

[rmp]

Older radials should always be rotated in the same direction. Newer ones, and any you buy today, should not require this so change them around as needed.

White lettering; entirely dependent on the car, but if in doubt, have it facing inside. And doubt is generally a good thing.

[4wd4fun]

I had white lettering on my first two Cars 10R15 good year wranglers and on my dayley driver BF goodrich 225 60R15 this was in the 80'S and i still have white lettering today i must be old fashioned:D
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8753/memo0010cl0.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memo0010cl0.jpg)