2 ROCKS - what to do?

[2 rocks]

Well have been a bit quiet of late, working through a number of issues, as funds will allow...

To cut a long story short, those that recall my threads about the fuel pump...eventually turned out to be the washers on the injectors (allowing compression to slip past preventing starting)...or did it????

In the last 3 weeks or so since the washers were swapped starting has been improved, but on 3 occasions he has failed to start, requiring repeated cranking and throttle application to get going.

Prior to discovering this, the guys at DA thought it might be a problem with the fuel rail within the head, which would necessitate a new head.

So far the fuel pump has been replaced, the fuel block cleaned and inspected, a new fuel filter fitted and of course the new injector washers, yet still the problem persists.

Right now, I can't trust him. Not to get to work, let alone go away anywhere. Going in for a 200k service on Friday and I know I will probably need new front discs and maybe rears plus new passenger doorlock mechanism.

I have been fighting this issue, which included de-laminated turbo hoses, while wanting to get the CDL kit installed and the continual display of the 3 amigos means I need to do the shuttle valve too.

So I'm asking myself, just how much do I love my Landy? Can I and do I want to keep put band-aids on it? Will I ever get him to the stage where he's reliable again and I can trust him for what I want to do?

The other day I had to go and pick up some window clip for the Wrangler and I saw this, and I realised (from what I've read on the Jeep forum) that I'd be free of a lot of this pain, even if it is at the expense of some room - at least it's not a Jap-Korean IFS thing, and I already know people who can look after it for me!

Vehicle Photos (http://ucn.dealernet.com.au/photo.php?ucnid=3367921&pos=1&sessionid=D33988EC7EDE427DBD362860620A94BC&criteriadata=YToyOntzOjI6Iml2IjtzOjg6IpRxs7qPQTkeI jtzOjQ6ImRhdGEiO3M6MTI4OiLhCNyypXd7xmbXjzInEnTXD/QfpLQSPYV8IePPONh%2B9YpSMw0ikFN4FPcZrIQZ8Hl4wPGTtj JEaRT6e3hnBDU8G84gmyBXAhtBT1bOxUsTVC2ogTm1XA1rgSKZ ATX5i5yHvQFMhGGBjn86AvT1UANbYWDqVu4WLcyEIHhdLaxffy I7fQ%3D%3D)

Long range tank, bash plates, wheel carrier, uhf, barwork, 3.0 CRD and electronics that work...Just needs a cargo barrier, snorkel, lift and some proper tyres...

What to do? If only Slunnie would sell me his D2...

Cheers
Mike

[Tombie]

Use vehicles offroad...

Poor electrics actually...

Sit back, find a better mechanic...... Spend the correct amount on the vehicle, not Bandaid fixes and it'll run true.

[2 rocks]

Use vehicles offroad...

Poor electrics actually... Yes but primarily windows and locks and not going to stop you!

Sit back, find a better mechanic...... Spend the correct amount on the vehicle, not Bandaid fixes and it'll run true.

Hi Tombie
Yes but then there's the seals on the rear windows and Alpine windows to do, and the aircon blend motor that fries my leg every summer (the passenger side is fine :mad:) plus the above. I guess it's sucked up about 4k in remedial work, in the last 12 months, not taking into account the positives like the lift, tyres and normal servicing etc, so I'm starting to wonder just where it will end and when the fun might begin...

Mike

[bblaze]

I will be in WA in late July, I will give you $1000 for it and take away all that stress, I'm sure I can back load it.
On a serious note, all things mechanical cost money.
Cheers
blaze

[2 rocks]

I will be in WA in late July, I will give you $1000 for it and take away all that stress, I'm sure I can back load it.
On a serious note, all things mechanical cost money.
Cheers
blaze

Blaze
Not till July?? :D:D:D

Mike

[bblaze]

:D, I may be prepared to pay a small storage fee
cheers
blaze

[disco_mitch]

sonds like youve already put a small fortune into it so why not stick with it yea it may cost you more still but prob be less than cutting your losses and buying a umm cough cough jeep whenever my cars would start to need fixing i would kep them till they were allbar dead than trade them in, ive lost more money than i want to think about i bought my jeep spent 10k in a year keeping it going got some damm good use out of it than sold it for what i paid for it, im over selling a car coz it needs things fixed its a car thats what they do, stick with it fix it up and let the good times roll

[McDisco]

Are you kidding?! No offense to Jeep lovers, but that thing is fugly!! Keep the disco and put the effort in and you will get it back.

Angus

[2 rocks]

sonds like youve already put a small fortune into it so why not stick with it yea it may cost you more still but prob be less than cutting your losses and buying a umm cough cough jeep whenever my cars would start to need fixing i would kep them till they were allbar dead than trade them in, ive lost more money than i want to think about i bought my jeep spent 10k in a year keeping it going got some damm good use out of it than sold it for what i paid for it, im over selling a car coz it needs things fixed its a car thats what they do, stick with it fix it up and let the good times roll

Hi JB - that's kind of what I've been thinking, I've already spent a load that I'd be handing over to someone else to just build on by fixing the things I can't at the moment. I do expect things to go wrong, it's a machine, but with 200 thou on the clock, and these ongoing issues I just seem to be chasing fault after fault and not getting to use it. And I sure don't trust it to go away anywhere right now...Y'know I'd have to say that my Wrangler is as preposterously reliable as my ancient NE Pajero was.


Are you kidding?! No offense to Jeep lovers, but that thing is fugly!! Keep the disco and put the effort in and you will get it back.

Angus

:D:D:D
Angus,
I never said it was pretty :angel: but it's got some nice extras I wouldn't need to fork out for. Not least of which Quadra Drive II with the factory locking diffs front & rear...I know it's done a lot less k's than the D2, but I couldn't believe how quiet it was and I'd love to be able to drop that Merc CRD into the Landy with 160kW as stock (wonder if AMG make a chip?)...Well I did the sums and it won't be for me but some lucky sod will be getting into a very nicely set up Grand that just needs a lift, snorkel, cargo barrier and the usual odds and sods to stir up Niss-yota boys and girls on the track....

And I guess if I change enough things on the Disco, maybe there won't be anything left to go wrong... ;);)
Cheers
Mike

[timaus13]

Keep plugging away mate.;)
Your Vehicle will get the message that you are not going to give up on him and he will repay you in kind.:D:D:D
Just iron out the wrinkles ( So too Speek):D
My Rangie is 76 model 2 door and he is fantastic.:):):)
Yep he 2 loves $$$ but I know to me he is worth every cent as he gets me there and back.:)

Like the song says.
Don,t give up on me Baby:D:D:D

[warren9981]

plus new passenger doorlock mechanism.


If you are looking to replace this because the door doesn't open with the handle. Check this out.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-Rover-Discovery-Door-Lock-Latch-Repair-Spring-x-1_W0QQitemZ200318292030QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_P arts_Accessories?hash=item200318292030&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318

It is because this little spring breaks preventing the latch from returning correctly. Spent about 4 hours last Sunday pulling my door and locks apart to discover this.

Hope this helps.:)

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

I would be looking at somewhere other than where you are going to get it done, like a fuel injection specialist. DA is not my choice at all.

I will have a chat with one of my fuel injection guys at work who worked for JRA for years and see if he knows of similar issues.

Cheers
Andrew

footnote, have you checked the glowplugs and connections as well?? If the plugs arent heating enough then cold starting will be an issue.

Also, forgot to ask, 200, 300 or TD5??

[2 rocks]

If you are looking to replace this because the door doesn't open with the handle. Check this out.

Land Rover Discovery Door Lock Latch Repair Spring x 1 - eBay Doors, Door Handles, Exterior, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 16-Mar-09 21:23:12 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-Rover-Discovery-Door-Lock-Latch-Repair-Spring-x-1_W0QQitemZ200318292030QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_P arts_Accessories?hash=item200318292030&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318)

It is because this little spring breaks preventing the latch from returning correctly. Spent about 4 hours last Sunday pulling my door and locks apart to discover this.

Hope this helps.:)

Cheers Warren...unfortuantely it's the same thing that happened to the driver's side when I bought it and it will not unlock with the remote so most the likely the solenoid (but of course, that's not a separate item :twisted:), it unlocks using the internal lever and if it had a keylock on the outside, that would probably work too! ;)


I would be looking at somewhere other than where you are going to get it done, like a fuel injection specialist. DA is not my choice at all.

I will have a chat with one of my fuel injection guys at work who worked for JRA for years and see if he knows of similar issues.

Cheers
Andrew

footnote, have you checked the glowplugs and connections as well?? If the plugs arent heating enough then cold starting will be an issue.

Also, forgot to ask, 200, 300 or TD5??

Andrew, sorry Td5 (must donate again to get my sig back!!). As mentioned it's had new washers for the injectors (as in metal washers not 'o' rings) and this has certainly improved it but not completely solved it and on the same day can vary from silent priming of the system to a yowl from the pump - at which point I wonder "how many times will I need to prime and crank it till it starts?" but it's behaved for a week now, apart from the noise. Which according to Murphy's Law means it'll probably play up tomorrow :D. Maybe I'll take the Wrangler tomorrow...

Haven't checked the glow plugs, but the event has occurred when the engine has been both cold and hot (when it would not have required the plugs to fire).

Any suggestions gratefully accepted!! :):) My trust/faith level (and more importantly that of my GF & her 2 girls :( ;) is diminishing).
Cheers
Mike

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

Mike
Had a chat with the guys. Check (if you can) if there is any air getting into the line near the fuel filter. As these are a gear drive Delphi pump, aparently the seals go and are prone to sucking air.
An airlock will obviously make it hard to start.
The "howling" is aparently caused by... you guessed it.... air getting in the pump!!

If you PM me your VIN number, I will run it thru Microcat and have a look for info for you.

Cheers

Andrew.

[2 rocks]

Hi Andrew
PM sent...
Cheers
Mike