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garryseries3
11th March 2009, 08:00 PM
Hi all I have a early series 3

Chassis number 90800385 A
Engine number 90617023 A
Gearbox number 90169774 A
Front differential 90121056 A
Rear differential 90143927 B

Even though these numbers are not the same are they possibly the original components of the vehicle?
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
The chassis is a four piece chassis suggesting that it is an early type (1972-73 model) and also chassis number indicates that it was a CKD assembled in Australia (searched on Cliftons).

The motor is a 2.25L diesel would this have been the original motor?

Also I do not have the Vehicle ID plate that attactes to the fire wall there are two types from what I understand.
One is the 'Rover Co Ltd. SIII" and the other is the
'Rover British Leyland UK Ltd. SIII'. Which one would it have had on it originally so that I can get the right one for the vehicle?

The oval Land rover badge on the back would it have been Land Rover Australia or Land Rover England badge?

Would this car have had a VIN plate (compliance plate) attacted to the radiator support originally or would it be just prior to them being introduced? Also I have seen some that have the chassis number on them while another one did not.

I have explored all of the colours for the years I believe the vehicle to be I would like to paint it Masai Red not a common colour for series 3's, may do a test panel first to guage the colour. While the wheels I think will end up that creamy white colour (not sure of the name). Would this be original for the production period for my SWB?

Hope you can help with these little details I do wish to keep it an original/ period vehicle for its time. The entire drive train/ mechanicals have been rebuilt, this was originally some one elses project. I am led to believe it was a Land rover mechanic who looked after army vehicles north of Sydney. I am told it had some thousand of dollars spent on it to restore the mechanicals. The inside of the exhaust is still clean suggest that it has not been run in or even started and run. I am hoping that some one knows who it is. I would really like to touch base with them and see if they can assist with what has been done and if there is a box of bits possibly over looked and found since it was sold on prior to me buying it.
http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/garryseries3/IMG_7441.jpg
Here are a couple of pics I had placed elsewhwere perhaps someone may regonise the vehicle. The Yellow is not an original colour the mechanic chap who started the restoration worked with his son also ran a buissness that had something to do with hydraulic jacks, the yellow was the colour of the jacks or some other components there of. (So I was told). Does this twig anyone memory as to who it might be.

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/garryseries3/IMG_7445.jpg
Would love to find a very good tub and tailgate, surely someone has one that they would part with that is clean and straight. It would be going to a very good project that I hope will end up as an excellent original example of this model once finished.


Cheers Garry:)

garryseries3
11th March 2009, 08:11 PM
http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/garryseries3/IMG_7442.jpg

Sleepy
11th March 2009, 10:18 PM
Love the pics garry. Keep 'em coming.
Cant really comment on any of your questions. Although someone here will soon :angel:

This link may help reference the serial numbers. Classic Land Rovers (http://www.classiclandrovers.no/?page=documents/vinlookup&)

dandlandyman
12th March 2009, 12:43 PM
As far as I've been able to see, all 88" Series 3 chassis were built from four plates. Only 109"s seem to use the two pressed longitiudinal halves. All the numbers seem to match the approximate age of the Landy (about 1972-73ish). I seem to recall that all Series 3s had a compliance plate (the one on the radiator panel) but yours may just be early enough - compliancing started in early 72 from memory.

Dan.
69 2A 88" pet4, 74 3 109" pet4, 68 2B FC pet6.

Psimpson7
12th March 2009, 12:46 PM
I agree with Dan, and nearly posted the same thing last night. We at home have a totally original 1979 s3 swb and that has the 4 plate chassis.

Killer
12th March 2009, 01:21 PM
Wheel colour is Limestone I believe, also pretty sure the compliance plates started in 1972.

Cheers, Mick.

lro11
12th March 2009, 06:36 PM
Ther Australian complience plate on the radiator panel and the later small type on the firewall. I have also seen these plates fitted in the engine bay but only on UK vehicles.

garryseries3
12th March 2009, 08:13 PM
I agree with Dan, and nearly posted the same thing last night. We at home have a totally original 1979 s3 swb and that has the 4 plate chassis.

Well thanks Dan and PSimpson for that information I wasn't sure.
Cheers
Garry

garryseries3
12th March 2009, 08:16 PM
Wheel colour is Limestone I believe, also pretty sure the compliance plates started in 1972.

Cheers, Mick.

Would you know what chassis number or how I could find out?
Kindest regards
Garry

garryseries3
12th March 2009, 08:20 PM
Ther Australian complience plate on the radiator panel and the later small type on the firewall. I have also seen these plates fitted in the engine bay but only on UK vehicles.

Looks like a very nice vehicle did you purchase the stickers on the radiator support or are they just really well preserved. If purchased where can they be sourced.

lro11
12th March 2009, 08:37 PM
Looks like a very nice vehicle did you purchase the stickers on the radiator support or are they just really well preserved. If purchased where can they be sourced.

Sorry, but when you are building the best restored series 3 in the world you can't give all your secret suppliers away. I did get a NOS plate.

garryseries3
12th March 2009, 08:56 PM
Sorry, but when you are building the best restored series 3 in the world you can't give all your secret suppliers away. I did get a NOS plate.

Have a heart I am sure I supplied you the fire wall
Garry

Sleepy
12th March 2009, 09:19 PM
Do I detect a "build off"????:D

garryseries3
12th March 2009, 09:23 PM
Do I detect a "build off"????:D

I hope not, I think it is great to see more restored vehicles on the road and at events. As I said I think I supplied LRO with a vitually mint diesel firewall, I could have keep it for mine as it was better, but ultimately its really about maintaining the marque not the egos.
Kindest regards
Garry

Sleepy
12th March 2009, 10:19 PM
Here Here!

(Only having a gentle dig ;) )

garryseries3
14th March 2009, 04:28 PM
Thanks again about clarifying the chassis construction on my Shorty, have some more questions if anyone can help.

The tub that is on my shorty has twin fillers on it looks like an original tub but maybe not for my vehicle? I aquired a second fuel tank to fit off on the passanger side but it is fouled by the way the exhaust is setup. So was it an optional extra and was there an original exhaust modification that could be bought to fit off the second tank on a early Series 3 SWB.
Kindest regards
Garry

JDNSW
14th March 2009, 04:47 PM
Thanks again about clarifying the chassis construction on my Shorty, have some more questions if anyone can help.

The tub that is on my shorty has twin fillers on it looks like an original tub but maybe not for my vehicle? I aquired a second fuel tank to fit off on the passanger side but it is fouled by the way the exhaust is setup. So was it an optional extra and was there an original exhaust modification that could be bought to fit off the second tank on a early Series 3 SWB.
Kindest regards
Garry

My Series 2a & 3 optional parts book shows an optional LH tank. However, this has an under seat filler! It also shows the exhaust system for the LH tank installation. The pipes are 517469 front and 264195 (88). 501221 (109) rear.

The presence of a LH filler fitting in the tub could be either a modification by the Australian assembler or dealer or even a previous owner, as the LH tank with a filler on the tub was fitted to most army 2a Landrovers, so the fitting was well known. The filler assembly is identical left to right except for the hose, which is no longer available, but a RH one can be used by cutting it and inserting a short length of exhaust pipe with clamps.

John

Killer
15th March 2009, 07:40 AM
Would you know what chassis number or how I could find out?
Kindest regards
Garry

Sorry Garry but no, I just know that in QLD to rego a 1972 onwards vehicle it needs a compliance plate.

Cheers, Mick.

garryseries3
15th March 2009, 03:45 PM
My Series 2a & 3 optional parts book shows an optional LH tank. However, this has an under seat filler! It also shows the exhaust system for the LH tank installation. The pipes are 517469 front and 264195 (88). 501221 (109) rear.

The presence of a LH filler fitting in the tub could be either a modification by the Australian assembler or dealer or even a previous owner, as the LH tank with a filler on the tub was fitted to most army 2a Landrovers, so the fitting was well known. The filler assembly is identical left to right except for the hose, which is no longer available, but a RH one can be used by cutting it and inserting a short length of exhaust pipe with clamps.

John

Thanks for that John I suspect that the tub is from another vehicle as the chassis does not have the hanger to pick up the front of the tank. I think I will try and source a new tub to leave it a single tank. Would you know where I could source a front pipe for a 88" or a good SWB tub.
Kindest regards
Garry

JDNSW
15th March 2009, 08:59 PM
Thanks for that John I suspect that the tub is from another vehicle as the chassis does not have the hanger to pick up the front of the tank. I think I will try and source a new tub to leave it a single tank. Would you know where I could source a front pipe for a 88" or a good SWB tub.
Kindest regards
Garry

The pipe should be available from any of the Landrover suppliers, and there should be a reasonable chance of getting a good tub from one of the places that wrecks Series Landrovers. There may be a chance of getting one from someone on here.

John

garryseries3
19th March 2009, 09:55 PM
Would anyone be interested if I took photos of the body restoration process as I go along. Of cause it could be a resourse for others if there was a interest. Let us know and I can add a bit as I go.
Kindest regards
Garry

THE BOOGER
20th March 2009, 12:27 AM
As many as you can do and from different angles please:D Its good to someone do some real work:o