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garryseries3
14th March 2009, 02:47 PM
Hi everybody I have pondered this question over the last 6 years of owning my 130 HCPU. How can one use that wasted space ie. the box cavity below the rear seats and the cavity behind them? The fitment of the rear seats means unbolting the bottoms or the top brackets to get to void underneath and it looks really useful storage its just not access freindly. There is also a large amount of room behind the seat backs and again its not user freindly. I have considered placing the inverter in behind the seat or a constructing a useful box to house equipment I take away rather than shoving stuff down from the top to remain there in a random state of (dis) organisation.

So has anyone used these areas and come up with some great ideas to improve the vehicle usability, photos would be great. Has anyone been able to make a easily detachable bracket so that the rear seats fold forward. Would love to see what others have come up with, I'm sure I am not the only one to ponder this.
Kindest regards
Garry

hiline
14th March 2009, 03:20 PM
there's a place around the corner from my place V-Equip i think its called that has a bracket that clips in ...........

but from memory they aint cheap

roverrescue
14th March 2009, 03:56 PM
Remove the factory retaining bracket at the uper seatback.
The seat can then fold forward and forward again.
Go to a wrecker and get a pair of seat locks that look like they will fit and make them bolt in... or dont. The box underneath will fit all spare hoses/ belts/ bearings/ air hose/ water hose/ recovery gear and odds and sods. i love the space that is easily available when the seats fold out of the way.

Steve

rick130
14th March 2009, 07:45 PM
Remove the factory retaining bracket at the uper seatback.
The seat can then fold forward and forward again.
Go to a wrecker and get a pair of seat locks that look like they will fit and make them bolt in... or dont. The box underneath will fit all spare hoses/ belts/ bearings/ air hose/ water hose/ recovery gear and odds and sods. i love the space that is easily available when the seats fold out of the way.

Steve

Ditto.
Actually I use the box underneath the back seat for work spares, and the 2/3 seat is almost permanently folded as that area then becomes the dogs bed.
The seats had already been 'undone' by a govt body. ;)

The VHF is goinf to go behind the 1/3 seat back, ATM the spare hoses and belts are jammed there.

Gigitt
15th March 2009, 09:57 PM
I don't know where my dad got these bits from but he convereted the fixed top seat brackets to a pull pin design. It looks like a converted Gate Hinge.
The long part bolts to the back of the chassis and the small part and hinge pin connects to the seat - stock locations. At the top of the pin is a keyring split ring so we can pull it out and a small wire gets placed into a hole in the bottom of the pin to stop the pin from lifting out. My Dad this way back when we bought the 130 new in 96. The under seat storage is used regularly.

fraser130
18th March 2009, 09:04 PM
I've found 2 90Ah AGM batteries and a large fusebox fits really well under the seats, and the UHF radio brick and Doof-Doof amplifier fit well behind the seats!

Fraser

101 Ron
18th March 2009, 09:45 PM
On my 130 I just removed the brackets on the sides of the seats to allow them to tip forward.
I have not worried about any locking set up , the passengers will be wearing seat belts and so it will not matter.
I have also fitted stainless quick release pull out pins on the seat pivot points so the seats can be very quickly removed.
With the larger seat removed my fridge sits over the storage compartment which can still be accessed via tipping the smaller seat forward.
The rear seat passenger gets the cold tinnes right beside them.
I find the small space behind the seats is a good place to carry any thing you may need in a hurry , like a snatch strap,or compressor hose
The compartment under the seat is large so things like all my recovery equiptment go there , with jumper leads.
My spare oil in a 4 lt container is carried on the RHS between the side of the body and the storage compartment/ seat.
On the other side my typhoon air compressor is permanetly mounted, so you just open the rear passenger door and the compressor and outlet are looking at you down beside the seat on the floor.
What I havent figtured out is how to fit a water tank in behind the cabin in the sloping space between it and the HCPU body.

abaddonxi
18th March 2009, 09:54 PM
Shovel, saw, axe. Spares and recovery stuff in the box under the seats.

And the half inch socket set that I only found a month ago when I opened it up for the first time in years.

Bugger of a thing to get to when you've got three baby seats on top of them.

Simon

Huwmungus
19th March 2009, 08:02 PM
I didn't know that the rear seats aren't meant to fold. Mine has an over centre style latch on each side to hold in place (I'll get some pics when I can - car is not with me at the moment) and when undone you can fold the seats up - very handy for the hounds when its raining or when the back is full of wood. I fitted two 6x9 speakers (much better sound than the landrover ones) behind the seats on a piece of mdf fitted between the two uprights.

I keep a few odds and ends (rope and stuff) behind the seat and spares and a few other bits that I don't need often in the box under the seat.

JDNSW
19th March 2009, 08:38 PM
For reasons that are not exactly clear, Australian Design Rules apparently require the seat to be fixed, although the same seat is folding on the 110 wagon. It is possible the problem is the catch, which I think may be different on the 130 compared to the 110, and rather than go to the trouble of fitting a catch that does meet requirements, in light of the small sales of the 130, the Australian branch of the company has simply taken the line of least resistance and bolted it in place.

As is obvious from the above posts, most owners have simply unbolted it and fitted some sort of a catch. What I would do if I owned a 130. Particularly if you bought it second hand there would be no way you would know it was not that way from new, as it is obviously the way it was designed.

John

garryseries3
21st March 2009, 08:30 PM
On my 130 I just removed the brackets on the sides of the seats to allow them to tip forward.
I have not worried about any locking set up , the passengers will be wearing seat belts and so it will not matter.
I have also fitted stainless quick release pull out pins on the seat pivot points so the seats can be very quickly removed.
With the larger seat removed my fridge sits over the storage compartment which can still be accessed via tipping the smaller seat forward.
The rear seat passenger gets the cold tinnes right beside them.
I find the small space behind the seats is a good place to carry any thing you may need in a hurry , like a snatch strap,or compressor hose
The compartment under the seat is large so things like all my recovery equiptment go there , with jumper leads.
My spare oil in a 4 lt container is carried on the RHS between the side of the body and the storage compartment/ seat.
On the other side my typhoon air compressor is permanetly mounted, so you just open the rear passenger door and the compressor and outlet are looking at you down beside the seat on the floor.
What I havent figtured out is how to fit a water tank in behind the cabin in the sloping space between it and the HCPU body.

Hey great utilisation, yes that void has puzzled me too I figured get a SS tank made to fit it or some form of bladder they would hold a good amount of water and be out of the way. You would only need standard type hose fittings to fill and supply water from it.
Garry

garryseries3
21st March 2009, 08:38 PM
I didn't know that the rear seats aren't meant to fold. Mine has an over centre style latch on each side to hold in place (I'll get some pics when I can - car is not with me at the moment) and when undone you can fold the seats up - very handy for the hounds when its raining or when the back is full of wood. I fitted two 6x9 speakers (much better sound than the landrover ones) behind the seats on a piece of mdf fitted between the two uprights.

I keep a few odds and ends (rope and stuff) behind the seat and spares and a few other bits that I don't need often in the box under the seat.

Thanks for that if you can get a couple of pics that would be great. The 130 has always seem the most utalitian and flexiable of vehicles out of all the landys (thats only my opinion). So it would seem only practicle to have good utilisation of those voids.
Garry

Huwmungus
22nd March 2009, 08:31 AM
Sorry for the wait but here are some pics of my brackets...


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fraser130
22nd March 2009, 09:33 AM
Huwmungus, great idea with the brackets/clips!
I think i'll do the same thing, now all I have to do is find the original ones to cut.
BTW, what size is the bar for the baby seats?

Fraser

abaddonxi
22nd March 2009, 10:16 AM
Huwmungus, great idea with the brackets/clips!
I think i'll do the same thing, now all I have to do is find the original ones to cut.
BTW, what size is the bar for the baby seats?

Fraser

Check here -
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/good-oil/57559-child-restraint-anchor-points-defender-kiddie-seats-baby-seats.html

And there might be a drawing with measurements, etc. either in that thread, or in download section.

Simon

The ho har's
22nd March 2009, 10:29 AM
depending on the trip........

under the seat all the spare hoses, fuses, belts, oils etc etc...a pain when you need to get to it though that happens rarely;)

behind the seat spare rope, hats, snatch strap, blankets (for lying on when fixing things) shoes fit very well there also.


Long trips the seats come out altogether for better storage.

short trips the seats stay in and stuff gets put on top



Mrs ho har:angel:

101 Ron
22nd March 2009, 06:21 PM
Sorry not the best pics
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101 Ron
22nd March 2009, 06:27 PM
Replace the though bolts on the seat legs near where they pivot with a pin and safety clip and the seats will be quickly removable.
With the wider RHS seat removed complelely I fit the fridge where the seat used to be and use the space on the floor to carry the chain saw box.
You can still carry one passenger on the LHS and tilt that seat forward to access the storage box underneath.

Huwmungus
23rd March 2009, 05:57 AM
Huwmungus, great idea with the brackets/clips!
I think i'll do the same thing, now all I have to do is find the original ones to cut.
BTW, what size is the bar for the baby seats?

Fraser

I got the bar idea from off this forum - probably the same link that Simon posted - seems to work well. The seat brackets/clips were there when I bought it. I didn't realise they weren't standard...

Thanks
Huw

garryseries3
23rd March 2009, 03:06 PM
[QUOTE=Huwmungus;939425]Sorry for the wait but here are some pics of my brackets...




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Thats great nice and simple, easy to obtain adjustable brackets and wow speakers too I really like its off to the shed I go Hi HO Hi HO.
Kindest regards
Garry

2stroke
23rd March 2009, 07:11 PM
Those latches are the perfect solution for something that's been bugging me for ages, anyone know where to get some?

Don 130
23rd March 2009, 08:51 PM
2stroke, try Universal Engineers Supplies, under fasteners, then over centre fasteners.They will mail/ courier stuffout with a phone/Credit card order. They have heaps of useful stuff. Make sure the size of what you're ordering is right for the job,sometimes the photos can be decieving. Don

George130
28th March 2009, 08:05 AM
You mean they didn't fold as standard?
Mine is set up so the rear seats fold. Seat box has tup access and also a drawer in the box that takes up half of the seat box. I keep things like the first aid kit and toilet roll in the drawer so it can be got at with ease. I store things like jumper cables in the other part.

malsgoing130
30th March 2009, 05:05 PM
I bought my 130 second hand and did not realise that the seats are not supposed to fold forward as mine does this, can be a pain off road because they keep on flopping forward.
Mal

lardy
31st March 2009, 12:34 AM
with reference to the seat box if you reinforce the front with welded box section why could you not just make the front flap down giving access with a draw system that would be bloody useful if you ask me, i have thought about it but as i am still working on the running gear i haven't got round to reconfiguring the interior wouldn't mind a couple of td5 front seats and a fridge in the middle !!!
any thoughts appreciated

Koukandowie Brangus
3rd April 2009, 09:20 AM
I am in the process of getting a ss water tank made up to fit under there, storage is not an issue as i have draws and the fridges in the tub. I like it as a water tank location as it is central to the vehicle and hopefully the storage box will be strong enough to bolt it down. Just a bit nervous drilling into the side of the rig for the filler port:eek::eek::eek:.

All Ova
15th January 2010, 12:20 AM
I am in the process of getting a ss water tank made up to fit under there, storage is not an issue as i have draws and the fridges in the tub. I like it as a water tank location as it is central to the vehicle and hopefully the storage box will be strong enough to bolt it down. Just a bit nervous drilling into the side of the rig for the filler port:eek::eek::eek:.

Mate, been pondering a drawer in the tub - can we get a peak at your set up?

jddisco200tdi
15th January 2010, 08:37 AM
Here is a preliminary drawing I did for a friend to fit cooker and storage drawer under the back seat. I know he changed some of the dimensions but hope this gives you some ideas. It slides out from both sides on drawer tracks. I think he made it out of 2mm aluminium.

Regards

John D - Defender 110 2.4