G4 Disco 3 Specs

[def90]

Gday guys - Anyone have the specs of the G4 Discos 3s?

I suppose they are just have 'every option' available....

More specifically, are they running 18" or 19" tires and which brand/size of tires do they use?

[Leo]

They all run 19" wheels with Goodyear MT/R tyres in 255/55/19.

I think they're HSEs (previous years were V8s, not sure about the newer ones).

[camel_landy]

OK... What do you want to know???

The latest batch of vehicles which were going to be used for the '09 event were TDV6 HSE with all the toys (including e-diff and TV).

Tyres - Goodyear Wrangler MTRs. 255/55 R19

I've got all the details (too much to list here) so let me know what info you're after & I'll see if I can answer it.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/03/810.jpg
(The car I drove is the one on the RHS:))

M

[rmp]

Gday guys - Anyone have the specs of the G4 Discos 3s?

I suppose they are just have 'every option' available....

More specifically, are they running 18" or 19" tires and which brand/size of tires do they use?

There is no exact "G4 spec" per se. There are variations on a theme according to the country. The UK ones are different to the Aussie ones and the USA versions are different again, not even orange.

However, they all have:

- Tangiers orange paint
- 255/55/19 Wrangler MTRs on 19x8 rims
- the A-frame (nudge bar) and winch mount
- LR roofrack
- Rear ladder
- some form of cargo barrier

Some are SEs up-specced, some are HSEs.

Here's parts & prices in Australia:

DISCOVERY 3 (G4 ACCESSORIES) RRP:
- Expedition Roof rack (CAB500021PMA) - $1693.54
- Goodyear MTR Tyres (HYM1368) - $434.50 each
- Front sump guard (KRQ500010) - $1185.65
- Rear Ladder (AGP78020) - $481.48
- Raised air intake (ADL780010) - $654.50
- Cargo barrier (RAA559) - $522.50
- Front lamp guards (VUB501200) - $426.77 Kit
- Rear lamp guard (VUB501380) - $451.00 Kit
- Winch (VUB501471) - $4345.00
- Tow bar (RAA550) - $195.80
- A Frame (LR005743) - $1190.41

There are only two G4 D3s in Australia and both have been sold to private owners in Victoria. You cannot order the car with Tangiers Orange but all the other kit is available as above.

[Guss]

How much for the mud detailing :)

[camel_landy]

There is no exact "G4 spec" per se. There are variations on a theme according to the country. The UK ones are different to the Aussie ones and the USA versions are different again, not even orange.

However, they all have:

- Tangiers orange paint
- 255/55/19 Wrangler MTRs on 19x8 rims
- the A-frame (nudge bar) and winch mount
- LR roofrack
- Rear ladder
- some form of cargo barrier

Some are SEs up-specced, some are HSEs.


The SE is the exception... Out of all vehicles prepped for the '09 event, only one was a SE, all the others were HSE.

The cargo barrier is the LR one, some of them were fitted with a divider so they could also be used as an ambulance.

The 'USA' spec you mention is what's known as the G4 'Trek' vehicles which were used for a similar type of event as well as the G4 selections process. All of the '09 vehicles are the same 'UK' RHD spec and built up with the same kit.

The '06 G4 vehicles were both RHD & LHD, depending on which country they were to be used in. They were all HSE but the LHD HSE spec is only 5 seats where as the RHD is 7 seat.

The '09 vehicles had Hella HID lamps on the roof (which are 'kin bright!!!) where as the previous events used the Warn spots.

HTH

M

[camel_landy]

How much for the mud detailing :)

Free if you make the selections... ;)

M

[rmp]

The SE is the exception... Out of all vehicles prepped for the '09 event, only one was a SE, all the others were HSE.

The cargo barrier is the LR one, some of them were fitted with a divider so they could also be used as an ambulance.

The 'USA' spec you mention is what's known as the G4 'Trek' vehicles which were used for a similar type of event as well as the G4 selections process. All of the '09 vehicles are the same 'UK' RHD spec and built up with the same kit.

The '06 G4 vehicles were both RHD & LHD, depending on which country they were to be used in. They were all HSE but the LHD HSE spec is only 5 seats where as the RHD is 7 seat.

The '09 vehicles had Hella HID lamps on the roof (which are 'kin bright!!!) where as the previous events used the Warn spots.

HTH

M

The two Aussie G4 D3s have (had) Hayman Recce barriers not the UK's barriers, are SEs with various extras and have no roof lights. And they have rollers not hawses for the winch cable. I presume the Mongolian ones are the same as the UK. I don't know if any other country than the UK, USA and Australia ordered a G4 vehicle.

If anyone is interested in G4 cars check out:

G4 Owners Club (http://www.g4ownersclub.com/Forum/)

And trivia; the newer roof lights are seperately switched to main beam, as they always should be.

[camel_landy]

The two Aussie G4 D3s have (had) Hayman Recce barriers not the UK's barriers, are SEs with various extras and have no roof lights.

I suspect that they're 2x vehicles put together by LRA for the selections & promo tours. The event cars have always been HSE spec.


I don't know if any other country than the UK, USA and Australia ordered a G4 vehicle.

It's important to distinguish what is meant by 'G4 cars'. When you mention G4 to an 'enthusiast', they take it as meaning ex-event cars. However, there are plenty of other 'G4' cars out there, G4-Trek being one style and the G4 LE (Limited Edition) being another type. Even in the UK, we had 'G4-Trek' which were essentially standard cars, with lots of stickers!


If anyone is interested in G4 cars check out:

G4 Owners Club (http://www.g4ownersclub.com/Forum/)

Just be careful with them as they're a delicate bunch... :angel:

M

[rmp]

I suspect that they're 2x vehicles put together by LRA for the selections & promo tours. The event cars have always been HSE spec.


Exactly right, that's precisely what they are.



It's important to distinguish what is meant by 'G4 cars'. When you mention G4 to an 'enthusiast', they take it as meaning ex-event cars. However, there are plenty of other 'G4' cars out there, G4-Trek being one style and the G4 LE (Limited Edition) being another type. Even in the UK, we had 'G4-Trek' which were essentially standard cars, with lots of stickers!


Agreed....but this is the point at which my eyes start to glaze over about whether such and such a car is a "G4" car or not. Does it have to have been used in the finals? Will selections do, surely that's an "event", if not *the* event ? Is a G4 car still a G4 car if not kept to the G4 standard, if the stickers are removed or accessories taken off? That's where the Owners Club comes in, they'd know all that detail. My care factor has a half life with each question, I just think they're cool cars.

Actually if the criteria is being using the in Big Event then there are NO G4 cars made in 2008!

And what about standard vehicles (non-orange) that were used in the selections. Are they special too? If the eventual winner drove one?

[camel_landy]

Agreed....but this is the point at which my eyes start to glaze over about whether such and such a car is a "G4" car or not...

Yeeessss.... I've posed similar questions to the owners club in the past.

In the case of G4 & Camel, the Selections cars quite often ended up on the events anyway (or in the case of Camel, they were usually the previous years event cars).


Actually if the criteria is being using the in Big Event then there are NO G4 cars made in 2008!

Again, I asked a similar question not so long ago when the '09 event cars started to be sold off. As most of them have done nothing, are they classified in the same bracket as a G4 LE? After all, it's a standard production car with off-the-shelf parts fitted.

But I'm with you... I just think they look :cool:

M

[Chesh]

Hi Guys,
I'm brand new to this forum but have been looking for a good source of info and feedback. I have rang around a few places looking for a genuine snorkel for my D3 V8 and have been quoted around the $800 range. I noticed the price listed below are a bit cheaper. Do you guys have a secret source of goodies :eek: ??


There is no exact "G4 spec" per se. There are variations on a theme according to the country. The UK ones are different to the Aussie ones and the USA versions are different again, not even orange.

However, they all have:

- Tangiers orange paint
- 255/55/19 Wrangler MTRs on 19x8 rims
- the A-frame (nudge bar) and winch mount
- LR roofrack
- Rear ladder
- some form of cargo barrier

Some are SEs up-specced, some are HSEs.

Here's parts & prices in Australia:

DISCOVERY 3 (G4 ACCESSORIES) RRP:
- Expedition Roof rack (CAB500021PMA) - $1693.54
- Goodyear MTR Tyres (HYM1368) - $434.50 each
- Front sump guard (KRQ500010) - $1185.65
- Rear Ladder (AGP78020) - $481.48
- Raised air intake (ADL780010) - $654.50
- Cargo barrier (RAA559) - $522.50
- Front lamp guards (VUB501200) - $426.77 Kit
- Rear lamp guard (VUB501380) - $451.00 Kit
- Winch (VUB501471) - $4345.00
- Tow bar (RAA550) - $195.80
- A Frame (LR005743) - $1190.41

There are only two G4 D3s in Australia and both have been sold to private owners in Victoria. You cannot order the car with Tangiers Orange but all the other kit is available as above.

[rmp]

No secret source. Prices go up. Why on earth would you put a LR RAI on your car when you could have a Safari Snorkel?

[gghaggis]

'cause it looks better, it's quieter and it doesn't affect the fuel consumption as much.

Oh, and it looks better ;)

Cheers,

Gordon

[chuck]

I also like the original raised air intakes better than ARB's snorkel.
Has anyone improved Landrovers design so as to turn it into a snorkel rather than a Raised Air Intake.

Regards

Chuck

[ADMIRAL]

Improved the LR design ? That would be a Safari snorkel then !

[ADMIRAL]

Hi Guys,
I'm brand new to this forum but have been looking for a good source of info and feedback. I have rang around a few places looking for a genuine snorkel for my D3 V8 and have been quoted around the $800 range. I noticed the price listed below are a bit cheaper. Do you guys have a secret source of goodies :eek: ??

RMP - How current is the price for the Expedition rack. I have been quoted $2800. !! trade inc the roof rails. A mite steep for my taste. If anyone has a source I am interested. I would like to see one in the flesh before committing though.

[rmp]

'cause it looks better, it's quieter and it doesn't affect the fuel consumption as much.

Oh, and it looks better ;)

Cheers,

Gordon

Yes, fuel consumption goes to nil when the engine ingests water ;-)

That would be why it's quieter as well.

[rmp]

RMP - How current is the price for the Expedition rack. I have been quoted $2800. !! trade inc the roof rails. A mite steep for my taste. If anyone has a source I am interested. I would like to see one in the flesh before committing though.

I wouldn't buy the rack. Get something like a Rackmaster instead or another quality alloy. The rails are too few and far apart on the Expedition. Like most LR accessories it looks the goods but isn't all that practical.

[rmp]

I also like the original raised air intakes better than ARB's snorkel.
Has anyone improved Landrovers design so as to turn it into a snorkel rather than a Raised Air Intake.

Regards

Chuck

Yes.

[gghaggis]

I also like the original raised air intakes better than ARB's snorkel.
Has anyone improved Landrovers design so as to turn it into a snorkel rather than a Raised Air Intake.

Regards

Chuck

The LR RAI can be "water-proofed" - to the same extent as the Safari. But whether it's worth doing is an individual choice. Regardless of which snorkle, the intake to the turbo is not sealed, and in reality, the LR RAI will prevent intake of water as long as you're moving. If you're not, it's likely that most of your electronics would be swamped anyway, before you ingest water.

Cheers,

Gordon

[Mal_W]

Assuming you have a "waterproof" snorkel, at what depth would the turbo start to suck water, or is there something else (electronics?) that is going to stop you first?

[rmp]

No idea re turbo.

The point about all this is not to turn the car into a submarine. It is to minimise the chances of water ingress and damage. Given the D3's aversion to water and the expense to repair that makes sense.

The LR RAI is better than nothing, but why not have a properly waterproofed snorkel for less money? OK, looks....I can live with the Safari looks, and the noise is quite livable too. I'd rather the waterproofing, but each to their own.

Even if the vehicle becomes waterlogged, it's better to repair just some damaged parts than the entire engine, so the argument that other things will become damaged at the same time doesn't "hold water" for me, it's all about reducing risk. I've been there and done that as far as vehicles in deep water is concerned and I'm doing whatever I can to stack the odds of keeping my D3 alive should I ever find myself in deeper water than planned.

[CSBrisie]

My car was done up as a G4 by the dealer in Perth - used as a display car at the Perth show in 2006; Only option not on it was the Winch - and at $4350 for a Warn 9500 I can see why - how can they charge that???

[rmp]

My car was done up as a G4 by the dealer in Perth - used as a display car at the Perth show in 2006; Only option not on it was the Winch - and at $4350 for a Warn 9500 I can see why - how can they charge that???

It's insane pricing for a 9500XP at normal RRP let alone at LR's markup which I think includes their winch cradle. Much better option is an ARB bar and winch, and IMHO the likes of an Ironman is 95% of a Warn at 40% of the price! Or maybe more than 95% depending on your perspective.

People pay because they don't know any better or are forced to take LR-endorsed options.

[gghaggis]

Hmmm - I guess my point is that it is a relatively straight-forward exercise to waterproof the LR snorkle to the same extent as the Safari. It's a lot harder (probably impossible) to make the car as "submersible" as say, a D1 TDI.

So for me, in the end the choice rotates on aesthetics. I've had both snorkles fitted to a D3, and in my experience the LR snorkle did not affect the fuel consumption as much as the Safari. But that's just one datapoint, I suppose ....

Cheers,

Gordon

[300+]

Real G4 vehicles are V8s, which the safari snorkel does not fit.

Cheers, Steve

[rmp]

Hmmm - I guess my point is that it is a relatively straight-forward exercise to waterproof the LR snorkle to the same extent as the Safari. It's a lot harder (probably impossible) to make the car as "submersible" as say, a D1 TDI.

So for me, in the end the choice rotates on aesthetics. I've had both snorkles fitted to a D3, and in my experience the LR snorkle did not affect the fuel consumption as much as the Safari. But that's just one datapoint, I suppose ....

Cheers,

Gordon

My LR RAI gained some induction noise after it was waterproofed and that would have increased fuel consumption slightly, probably same as the Safari. For me I'm not worried about it as I have a long range tank.

I think that paying less for a properly waterproof snorkel makes more financial sense than paying for a more expensive one that isn't, then waterproofing it.

You can also fit precleaners to the Safaris.

Agree the LR one looks better.

[ADMIRAL]

I wouldn't buy the rack. Get something like a Rackmaster instead or another quality alloy. The rails are too few and far apart on the Expedition. Like most LR accessories it looks the goods but isn't all that practical.

Trying to find something that sits low on the roof. The issue with most racks on the market, is the front support leg is a country mile off the roof. Doesn't look the best and would create a lot of drag. The 3/4 racks look better, but don't provide enough support for the front of any normal length awning, exposing the awning to damage if pushing through scrub etc. gghaggis may care to comment, as I see his awning protrudes further out even on the expedition rack. Probably look at the potential to drop the rear mounts closer to the rails on one of the other full length racks.

[gghaggis]

I quite like the LR expedition rack (but then again I didn't pay full price for it, so my opinion might be a little biased). It's very strong, low drag and fits the roofline nicely. I got an extra set of tie-down rings ($130 for 6), which makes it very versatile, as they can be positioned anywhere on the floor rails or side rails. My awning (an ARB model) protrudes approx 400mm forward of the front of the rack, but being fixed at 4 points along the length of the rack, it is firmly held to the vehicle. No damage so far!

Cheers,

Gordon

[ADMIRAL]

I quite like the LR expedition rack (but then again I didn't pay full price for it, so my opinion might be a little biased). It's very strong, low drag and fits the roofline nicely. I got an extra set of tie-down rings ($130 for 6), which makes it very versatile, as they can be positioned anywhere on the floor rails or side rails. My awning (an ARB model) protrudes approx 400mm forward of the front of the rack, but being fixed at 4 points along the length of the rack, it is firmly held to the vehicle. No damage so far!

Cheers,

Gordon

No question, it looks good that low to the roofline. At twice the cost of anything else on the market, it is pretty rich though.
I will hold my decision until I see one in the flesh.

At this stage I am favouring a Frontrunner 3/4 rack with the short legs, and a hardcase awning like the EziAwn. The hardcase should provide sufficient rigidity on a shorter rack, ( although the Expedition is only a 3/4 rack also ) and better protection for the awning when pushing through scrub. ( that's the theory so far anyway ! )

[rmp]

I put a mesh floor on mine so it could take a canvas rooftop bag.

[Tombie]

The LR RAI can be "water-proofed" - to the same extent as the Safari. But whether it's worth doing is an individual choice. Regardless of which snorkle, the intake to the turbo is not sealed, and in reality, the LR RAI will prevent intake of water as long as you're moving. If you're not, it's likely that most of your electronics would be swamped anyway, before you ingest water.

Cheers,

Gordon

Gordon,

Can you explain this a bit more please?

[gghaggis]

Gordon,

Can you explain this a bit more please?

After the air box, the hose turns 90deg to point down and 'sits' on the coupling below - it's not sealed.

Cheers,

Gordon

[gghaggis]

No question, it looks good that low to the roofline. At twice the cost of anything else on the market, it is pretty rich though.
I will hold my decision until I see one in the flesh.



Mine is actually for sale (as it won't fit the RRS) if you're interested .....

Cheers,

Gordon

[DiscoSaffa]

Mine is actually for sale (as it won't fit the RRS) if you're interested .....

Cheers,

Gordon

ADMIRAL, if you're not, I sure am........

[Tombie]

After the air box, the hose turns 90deg to point down and 'sits' on the coupling below - it's not sealed.

Cheers,

Gordon

In which case, how does it not draw dust into the engine?

I'm going to go crawl over the engine this weekend I think!

[ADMIRAL]

Mine is actually for sale (as it won't fit the RRS) if you're interested .....

Cheers,

Gordon
I'm interested. Are you back in Perth yet ? Can you send me a pm and I will try to get out this weekend to view if that is possible ?
Looking on the Uk site, it seems there is an optional floor ? Doesn't it have anything but a few rails ?

[rmp]

Gents....mod hat on for a moment....anything for sale should be advertised and discussed in the:

Main Index - AULRO Classifieds (http://www.aulro.com/apc/)

markets section or by private message, not here.

[ADMIRAL]

Gents....mod hat on for a moment....anything for sale should be advertised and discussed in the:

Main Index - AULRO Classifieds (http://www.aulro.com/apc/)

markets section or by private message, not here.
apologies pm it is