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Pedro_The_Swift
21st March 2009, 01:46 PM
where to start,,
basically a bsod (first one for over12 months) and then after reboot no post/bios screen.
had to find a speaker and I get one medium beep,(yes I know but this is the first time ROME has beeped at me during a post, so how long is long?)
pc runs for around 10 secs then reboots,,
CPU and GPU fans both start,
have replaced and restructured then removed my ram,
have removed the sound card,
have removed the vid card,
have disconnected HDD,
(sound first, then ram, then vid and HDD)


none of this makes any difference,,

have been trying to get voltages from MB and CPU power leads,,
BUT-- should I have power if the PSU is switched on, but the PC is off?

JDNSW
21st March 2009, 03:15 PM
where to start,,
basically a bsod (first one for over12 months) and then after reboot no post/bios screen.
had to find a speaker and I get one medium beep,(yes I know but this is the first time ROME has beeped at me during a post, so how long is long?)
pc runs for around 10 secs then reboots,,
CPU and GPU fans both start,
have replaced and restructured then removed my ram,
have removed the sound card,
have removed the vid card,
have disconnected HDD,
(sound first, then ram, then vid and HDD)


none of this makes any difference,,

have been trying to get voltages from MB and CPU power leads,,
BUT-- should I have power if the PSU is switched on, but the PC is off?

I don't think the PSU will give power until the Computer start button signals it to do so.

You need to monitor the power as it is switched on.

I am afraid that it sounds to me like a motherboard problem of some kind!

John

The ho har's
21st March 2009, 03:43 PM
Don't talk of motherboard problems:mad:

Mine was 3 months past it warranty and it died:mad:


But now I have a nice new EeePC.......terrific, transportable and cheap to replace:D


Mrs ho har:angel:

clean32
21st March 2009, 04:48 PM
one beep is power is ok, a Continuous beep is is a power/bord / keybord problem.

so i doint think that swaping out cards is the way to go. is there any codes displaying just before it reboots? have you tryed booting from CD and changing the bios to read cd first ?

Boxhead63
21st March 2009, 05:13 PM
yeah, when my mother was boarding it was real problems she kept on crashing everywhere, but then she had her reasons.

Rob

The ho har's
21st March 2009, 05:49 PM
yeah, when my mother was boarding it was real problems she kept on crashing everywhere, but then she had her reasons.

Rob


somthing tells me that you and I are not helping in anyway:o:p

though Pedro knows me so i think he will understand:D


Mrs ho har:angel:

abaddonxi
21st March 2009, 09:22 PM
Are the CPU, etc. fans working?

Have you tried resetting the bios to default?

Do you have another power supply to substitute?

Can't think of anything else now, tired from all that thinking.:D

Simon

abaddonxi
21st March 2009, 09:24 PM
Does Rome have a FDD?

Ferret
21st March 2009, 09:54 PM
Fans start, POST reports 1 beep then PC continues the boot process for ~ 10 secs before shutdown.

Is that what is happening because I am a bit confused about what it is you are saying.

Anyway, assuming the above is what is happening I'd say your power supply is catus.

Have you upgraded anything recently say in the last 8 weeks or so, a new graphics card, additional hard drive? In some cases a marginal PSU will drive the new gear for a while but the additional load over and above its capacity to deliver will cause accelerated failure.

The fact that you are passing POST seems to suggest there is nothing basically wrong until the PSU is asked to ramp up the power.

abaddonxi
21st March 2009, 10:12 PM
Good call.

Simon

Pedro_The_Swift
21st March 2009, 10:51 PM
Fans start, POST reports 1 beep then PC continues the boot process for ~ 10 secs before shutdown.


This is correct.

Have you upgraded anything recently say in the last 8 weeks or so, a new graphics card, additional hard drive? In some cases a marginal PSU will drive the new gear for a while but the additional load over and above its capacity to deliver will cause accelerated failure.

The fact that you are passing POST seems to suggest there is nothing basically wrong until the PSU is asked to ramp up the power.



nothing new,,,








I can try a different PSU,
it so happens I bought a "cheapy" while waiting for my "good one" to arrive,,

and yes Simon,, for reasons beyond me now I did install a 3.5 drive,,

have tried to boot with it disconnected:(


(Thanks for the help Inc :D:()



oh,,, and is there an "easy" place to test the 12 and 5 volt rails?
other than jaming the probe into the connectors?

Pedro_The_Swift
21st March 2009, 11:06 PM
well that was quick,,


and pointless,,

same problem,,

where's that motherboard receipt,,:mad:

abaddonxi
21st March 2009, 11:10 PM
Bios might have halt on FDD fault set as default.

Pedro_The_Swift
21st March 2009, 11:20 PM
maybe,, but if it does I'm ****ed as I cant get to the bios to fix it,,,

abaddonxi
21st March 2009, 11:31 PM
Unplug non-boot drives, usb accessories, see if it is a power supply load problem?

Edit - nope, I'll read the posts instead.

Pedro_The_Swift
22nd March 2009, 01:57 PM
wow, 158 people have viewed this,,
and no other thoughts,,,






I am under the impression the MB has another (warranty) year to go,,

but how do I prove its a a MB problem?

incisor
23rd March 2009, 09:12 AM
disconnect everything that doesnt need to be there, eg hard drives, floppy's, addon cars etc etc

make sure power and data cables off those things are disconnected as well

as well as ethernet cables etc etc

see what happens

Pedro_The_Swift
23rd March 2009, 12:08 PM
Pedro Vs Gigabyte.
Second and Final Round.

DING!

A battered and bruised Pedro walks to the centre of the ring to touch gloves,, Gigabyte stands there with a look of contempt,, turns to laugh with a ringside fan--
Suddenly Pedro leaps across the ring and smothers Gigabyte with---

BUBBLE WRAP!

a flurry a lefts and rights!
a superb boxing exibition!
and gigabyte goes DOWN!

NINE TEN!

and its a win to Pedro The Swift!






or is it?

Delta_Farce
23rd March 2009, 03:10 PM
G'day,

I found the following info at: Hardware Knowledgebase - Award BIOS Beep codes - HardwareFAQs: powered by neofaq (http://www.neoseeker.com/Hardware/faqs/kb/12,12.html)

The Award BIOS basically only reports either memory or video problems in its beep codes. Worse, the codes themselves sometimes refer to one OR the other item being the problem, or else it's the motherboard at fault.

Beep code brief:
1 Long Beep: Memory problem
1 Long Beep and 2 Short Beeps: Video error
Continuous Beeping: Memory or video problem
Any other beep pattern: Most likely Memory problem

If you can post your motherboard model I might be able to find the beep codes for your specific model. From the looks of things though, the Award BIOS (and Gigabyte in particular) are not very good at documenting the error codes.

So, based on this info I would:

Disconect all media from the motherboard (HDD, FDD, CD/DVD, USB ).
Remove all cards except the Video card
Remove all RAM

Attempt to start

If it works, try with one of your RAM sticks. If it fails the problem lies in the motherboard, power supply or video card. If you have spares (ie old hardware) try to change the power supply or video card and try again.

Also, does your PC have an internal speaker or are you connecting the speakers that you heard the beep with via the sound card? Most motherboards will have a connector for an internal speaker.

Let us know how you go and good luck.

Cheers,

Mark

Pedro_The_Swift
1st April 2009, 06:00 AM
I wonder what the turn-around time for motherboards is?

djhampson
4th April 2009, 12:47 PM
Might be too late but take the battery out and do a CMOS reset. Its normally a jumper you short out on Gigabyte boards.

Pedro_The_Swift
4th April 2009, 02:15 PM
Thanks DJ,, yea tried that,,:(




the new gigabyte boards have cmos re-set switches:eek:

dickyjoe
7th April 2009, 04:06 PM
Not sure if you have tried a new PSU but that would be my first point of call.

Pedro_The_Swift
21st April 2009, 03:31 PM
Have just been informed by my IT guru that the motherboard has returned from space and will soon be on its way to chilly Toowoomba.

still dunno what was wrong,, if its been repaired or replaced,,

all I know its coming home!!!!:banana::banana::banana:

Pedro_The_Swift
24th April 2009, 07:04 PM
ROME to AULRO!

are you receiving AULRO?


:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana::banana:

incisor
24th April 2009, 07:32 PM
BOO!

Pedro_The_Swift
24th April 2009, 07:36 PM
:eek2:

abaddonxi
24th April 2009, 07:49 PM
Rome wasn't built in a day.

Yay.

incisor
24th April 2009, 09:40 PM
:eek2:

just needs the beard!

abaddonxi
24th April 2009, 09:45 PM
Should've said, Rome wasn't rebuilt in a day.

Pedro_The_Swift
25th April 2009, 06:17 AM
actually,,
this time it WAS!

twice:angel:


;):p