Show us your... '58 2L Series II!

[Shonky]

There was a thread a little while ago in which a number of early 2L Series IIs came out of the woodwork - linked below:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-2-2a/56547-1958-series-2-worth-saving.html

For those who don't know, the very first Series II SWB models made in 1958 came with the 2L engine from the Series I. The LWB came with the 2.25 from the start and at some stage during the year the 2.25 was introduced into the SWB as well.

From the other thread, there are at least 5 of them on this forum - any others?

so far:
143800259 (Shonky)
143800263 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800310 on eBay April '09
143800359 (Sth65Pacific) *for sale May '09*
143800386 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800391 (lro11)
143800485 (dickyjoe)
143800557 (gromit)
143800622 (Seriestwo)

Rules:
Please cut and copy above list into your post and include your Chassis No. keeping in order, describe current status and PICS! :D


I will start:

You have all seen "Gus" my shorty. (what the hey you can see it again :p)

Chassis number 143800259, currently in bits awaiting rebuild. Has a 186 Holden at the moment but will cop a 2.25 during resto. Not going back to original - building up as practical bush truck. May restore to original one day. :)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/21032008264.jpg

[chazza]

so far:
143800259 (Me)
143800263 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800386 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800485 (dickyjoe)
143800557 (gromit)

and 143900699 (Chazza).

1958 ex-army Truck Command Recconaissance called Roger. Totally shagged chassis and axles from putting boats into salt water for years. I have every intention of restoring it, after it nearly went to the tip a few years ago.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/03/583.jpg (http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u171/sprawson/?action=view&current=Roger.jpg)

If you think the chassis is bad; my S1 was worse and I have restored that
:D

[lro11]

Sadly I wrecked mine and turned it into a series 3 but still with the original 2ltr engine. The things you do when you are young and stupid, anyway it lives at Straddie and if you see it, let me know I want it back I need to make it right again.

[Shonky]

143800259 (Shonky)
143800263 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800386 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800485 (dickyjoe)
143800557 (gromit)
143900699 (Chazza).

That's interesting Charlie... I thought all the CRs were purchased after the change to the 2.25? :eek:

It is likely I am wrong though. ;)

EDIT - I note your chassis number makes it a '59... I am almost certain there were no 2L Series IIs made in '59... ;) Might wanna check that, or let me know if I am mistaken. :)

[Shonky]

Looks like that was it then? :(

Only 5 (maybe 6?) of the 2L Series IIs on here... gee I knew they were uncommon but I didn't think they were that uncommon... :eek:

[JDNSW]

I've known about them ever since I had a 58 Landrover 88 in 1963-65 - but it was a 2.25 (original). So definitely no 1959 2.0s.

John

[chazza]

That's interesting Charlie... I thought all the CRs were purchased after the change to the 2.25? :eek:

It is likely I am wrong though. ;)

EDIT - I note your chassis number makes it a '59... I am almost certain there were no 2L Series IIs made in '59... ;) Might wanna check that, or let me know if I am mistaken. :)

Whoops sorry - saw the 1958 bit and missed the 2 litre part. :blush:

I didn't know it was a 1959, so thanks for pointing that out Shonks; I assumed that the 1958 contract date on the plate meant that it was made in '58.

Cheers Charlie

[Shonky]

No worries mate. :)

These chassis numbers are pretty easily calculated - the 4th number is the year. ;)

The later and earlier types were different and not as sensible IMHO. :(

[Dinty]

G'day All, All of the S2 C/R vehicles I have seen have 2.25lt engines fitted, but they are different to the later type 2.25lt, they are 1 bolt less on the water pump (hence a different timing case cover), the elbow on the head for the thermostat is different, the military must have specified that the exhaust must point downwards as I've never seen the upside down type ex/manifold fitted, I suppose there a few more diferences as well anyway cheers Dennis:angel:
ps I'm not infallible either LOL,,.

[Shonky]

Found one more: :)

From this thread - http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-2-2a/48282-ii-iia-owners-own-up-4.html


Ralph is the series 2 who has a 2L engine and I believe it to have all matching numbers, but I can find the numbers at the moment. But because it is on the farm and many miles from here I will post them when I get them.

143800259 (Shonky)
143800263 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800386 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800485 (dickyjoe)
143800557 (gromit)
?????????? (Seriestwo)

[Seriestwo]

This is Ralph from what I can see he is a 1958 series 2 2l, I will have the chassis number for you after the easter break when I head up to the farm.

Chris

PS I attached a couple of pics

[Shonky]

Looks great Chris!

Does Ralph still have his 2L?

[Seriestwo]

Yep Andrew he running the old 2L, The motor I believe has never been touched and therefore is starting to get quite tired. We have done a few things to keep him going, as he is only a farm truck, with many dings and scratches. Well put it this way we learnt as kids to drive in this car on the farm, so it has seen about 20 or so learner drivers. He still climbs the hills on the farm with ease and goes places where the tojo cant go, and when the tojo gets new tires we put the old ones on Ralph and it does him until next time the tojo gets new tyres.

Now that my grandad passed away last year, I dont get up as often as I would like but I still enjoy walking out down the paddock and conecting up the battery, flicking the starter swith and pressing the starter button, and you know what it generally starts first go.

[isuzutoo-eh]

G'day Chris,
I like your photos of Ralph out and about doing his job.
And I like Ralph's colour, hmmm original green or a nice brown for my 2a...

Cheers,
Mark

[gromit]

Photos attached of my 2 litre Series 2.

Needs doors, door tops, rear chassis repair, bulkhead etc. Has a 2.25 motor fitted and drives OK but rear spring hangers have collapsed.
Original engine was supplied, sump has rotted out where it was stored on a dirt floor. Original owner claimed it ran low oil pressure so he changed it to the 2.25.

Will get round to doing some work on it soon......

Colin

[Shonky]

Looks great Col!

I feel a bit dirty now... I'm putting a 2.25 in ol' Gus. :(

[Dmmos]

This is Ralph from what I can see he is a 1958 series 2 2l, I will have the chassis number for you after the easter break when I head up to the farm.

Chris

PS I attached a couple of pics

Ralph has quite the hood ornament :angel:

[Seriestwo]

Ralph has quite the hood ornament :angel:

lol, that would be my brothers Girlfriend, she loves driving it so much we dont get a turn when she comes out. Luckily we have 2 other landys to use. But I say a happy woman is a happy family :)

[Dmmos]

lol, that would be my brothers Girlfriend, she loves driving it so much we dont get a turn when she comes out. Luckily we have 2 other landys to use. But I say a happy woman is a happy family :)

Absolutely... ;)

[Seriestwo]

I hve taken a few pics of Ralph on the long weekend. For the first time ever we were not able to drive him as he has a blown brake master cylinder. So unfortunatly I was not able to get some better photos as where he is parked I cant photo around. I have the chassis number and I could not find the engine number as it has been covered with numetal and I am not game enough to remove it as it was probably put there for a reason at some stage.

Wll the Chassis number is
143800622


1 Type: Land Rover
43 Model: Land Rover, Series II
Body type: Basic
Wheel base: 88in (Short Wheel Base, SWB)
Engine: Petrol
Destination: Right-hand drive (RHD), completely knocked down (CKD)
8 Model year: 1958
00622 Serial number

[lro11]

I opened my old workshop manual today and found the the details of my series 2

Chassis 143800391
Engine 141800462

[Shonky]

143800259 (Shonky)
143800263 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800311 on eBay April '09
143800386 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800391 (lro11)
143800485 (dickyjoe)
143800557 (gromit)
143800622 (Seriestwo)


Added to the list! lro - yours is only 5 away from Lord Macclesfield's later one... ;)


There is one on eBay at the moment - 143800311

LAND ROVER - eBay, Restoration, Salvage, Cars, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 28-Apr-09 11:18:52 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280336407141&_trksid=p2759.l1259)

has a 186 in it though. :(

[Shonky]

Found another one. ;)

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-2-2a/79066-s2a-not-arn-chassis-number-143800359-a.html

143800259 (Shonky)
143800263 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800311 on eBay April '09
143800359 (Sth65Pacific) *for sale May '09*
143800386 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800391 (lro11)
143800485 (dickyjoe)
143800557 (gromit)
143800622 (Seriestwo)

[Shonky]

LAND ROVER - eBay, Restoration, Salvage, Cars, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 18-May-09 10:41:37 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LAND-ROVER_W0QQitemZ280344234524QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_C ars?hash=item280344234524&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1 |293%3A1|294%3A50)

143800311 is back on eBay too. ;)

[Shonky]

Having a closer look at the blurry phot of the data plate on the one on eBay, I now see that it is 143800310 and NOT 143800311.

I'd amend the above but the edit option has expired. :(

143800259 (Shonky)
143800263 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800310 on eBay April '09
143800359 (Sth65Pacific) *for sale May '09*
143800386 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800391 (lro11)
143800485 (dickyjoe)
143800557 (gromit)
143800622 (Seriestwo)

[foz.in.oz]

Why couldn't you edit the last post. That way when I clicked on got first unread I wouldn't have needed to scroll all the back to the top. :D:D:D:angel:

[Shonky]

143800259 (Shonky) "Gus"
143800263 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800310 on eBay April '09
143800359 (Sth65Pacific) *for sale May '09*
143800386 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800391 (formerly owned by lro11)
143800485 (dickyjoe)
143800557 (gromit)
143800622 (Seriestwo) "Ralph"


Added vehicle names where supplied. Names are important too! :p
Also edited to reflect that lro11 no longer owns 00391.

To clarify when the 2L (Petrol) Series IIs were produced, they were built from April 1958 when the Series II was released until September 1958 when the SWB recieved the 2.25 bringing it into line with the LWB.

Any more takers?

Calling all 1438 cars! :D

[Shonky]

Found another one:

143800384 was on eBay recently in Qld.

Sold for $1,626 in reasonably good nick with 2L still in situ. ;)

Did anyone from here get it?

[Shonky]

143800259 (Shonky) "Gus"
143800263 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800310 on eBay April '09
143800359 (Sth65Pacific) *for sale May '09*
143800384 on eBay November '09
143800386 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800391 (formerly owned by lro11)
143800485 (dickyjoe)
143800557 (gromit)
143800622 (Seriestwo) "Ralph"

[Shonky]

143800384 was on eBay recently in Qld.

Sold for $1,626 in reasonably good nick with 2L still in situ.

00384 is on eBay again, for $8,000! :eek2:

It's in good nick, but gawd thats a big price tag!

[stevep]

I have added "Cowra" to the list.

142800417 (stevep) "Cowra"
143800259 (Shonky) "Gus"
143800263 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800310 on eBay April '09
143800359 (Sth65Pacific) *for sale May '09*
143800384 on eBay November '09
143800386 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800391 (formerly owned by lro11)
143800485 (dickyjoe)
143800557 (gromit)
143800622 (Seriestwo) "Ralph"

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/04/502.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/stevep-albums-series+2+1958-picture1888-dsc02134.html)

regards
Steve

[bulletproof]

My Series 2 is the first one built in Feb and into dispatch on March 3 1958 and was a UK built export to NZ

142800016 (bulletproof) engine 141800023 and gearbox 141800011
142800417 (stevep) "Cowra"
143800259 (Shonky) "Gus"
143800263 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800310 on eBay April '09
143800359 (Sth65Pacific) *for sale May '09*
143800384 on eBay November '09
143800386 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800391 (formerly owned by lro11)
143800485 (dickyjoe)
143800557 (gromit)
143800622 (Seriestwo) "Ralph"

It is still pretty much original with nearly all matching numbers

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/12/710.jpg


Chassis 142800016
Engine 141800023
Engine casting date 6-2-58
Gearbox 141800011
F/diff 141800048
Front nugget B 58
R/diff 141800142
Rear nugget 58T2
Steering box 2 58
Radiator 1 58
Distributor 2 58
Carburettor B 58
1 wiper 1 58
Glass late 57-early 58
Fuel tank switch 11 7
Starter Solinoid 2 58
Choke switch 1 58
Regulator 11 57
Fuse box 1 58
Horn switch 1 58
Brake drums 12 57
Both headlights 2 58
Original sparto lights No dates
2 wheels 2 58


Cheers Richard

[bulletproof]

There are 2 more I know about 143800292 and 143800299

143800292 is very original with its original 2 litre engine ,Gearbox, Front and rear diffs.


142800016 (bulletproof) engine 141800023 and gearbox 141800011
142800417 (stevep) "Cowra"
143800259 (Shonky) "Gus"
143800263 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800292
143800299
143800310 on eBay April '09
143800359 (Sth65Pacific) *for sale May '09*
143800384 on eBay November '09
143800386 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800391 (formerly owned by lro11)
143800485 (dickyjoe)
143800557 (gromit)
143800622 (Seriestwo) "Ralph"


A Pic of 143800292

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/12/709.jpg

Chassis 143800292
Engine 141802020
Gear/B 141801855
F/diff 141800309
R/Diff 141802699
Radiator 2/58
Dist. 3/58

Cheers Richard

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Did anyone get of follow up on this one? http://www.aulro.com/apc/showproduct.php/product/6232/cat/4

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/12/701.jpg

BTW, I am compiling a photo register of the 1958 88" see the closed sticky above.

[bulletproof]

Having a picture registry is an excellent idea Diana.

Thanks Richard

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Having a picture registry is an excellent idea Diana.

Thanks RichardNot a problem Richard

When we have some of the images why not display them. It has proved a bonus with Rusty Bulkhead's Gun Buggy thread.
Not sure about the wardrobe malfunction though! :o

Diana

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-2-2a/140557-1958-2-litre-88-register-aunz-existant-vehicles.html#post1591085

[bulletproof]

I have some info from the Heritage Museum on 143800292 and #694


Chassis 143800292
batch no 49
chassis numbers 289 - 294
built & dispatched: 1/5/1958
to: Grenville Motors Ltd. Sydney for Pressed Metal Corp Ltd. Sydney


chassis 143800694
batch no 115
chassis numbers 691-696
built & dispatched: 20/8/1958
to: same as above


Cheers Richard

[lro11]

Sadly I wrecked mine and turned it into a series 3 but still with the original 2ltr engine. The things you do when you are young and stupid, anyway it lives at Straddie and if you see it, let me know I want it back I need to make it right again.

Well I am happy to report that I am the proud re owner of my series 2. I plan to restore it back to the original specification. A big thank you to all of you who contacted me to let me know it was for sale. There will be series 3 parts available soon in the markets.

[debruiser]

Well I am happy to report that I am the proud re owner of my series 2. I plan to restore it back to the original specification. A big thank you to all of you who contacted me to let me know it was for sale. There will be series 3 parts available soon in the markets.

Thats pretty amazing that you found it again! Wow.

[123rover50]

Well I am happy to report that I am the proud re owner of my series 2. I plan to restore it back to the original specification. A big thank you to all of you who contacted me to let me know it was for sale. There will be series 3 parts available soon in the markets.

Wow, big job ahead.Not much left of the S11 with a 1956 engine no 1706xxxx. Wide track axles, Series 3 gearbox, bodged chassis etc. But good luck anyway:)
Keith

[lro11]

Keith that's the best bit I still have all the original parts to go back on.

[Landy Smurf]

I think Justin Pollard has/had one that was for sale

[123rover50]

Keith that's the best bit I still have all the original parts to go back on.

That was good thinking. Well done:)

[lro11]

Are there any creative people out there that can help with a name for this car? I actually didn't give this car a name when I owned it the first time. Funny thing I still have the original number plate too.

[garrywlh]

how about 'Lazarus' back from the dead. heh heh

[lro11]

Well it's finally home I can't wait to strip it down.

[Carzee]

Some pom man-servant name like Bentley. Or something hyphenated aka 2dads.
Any name from fawltey towels....

[ezyrama]

Use the one I wasnt allowed to use , Montague P Farnsworth

[123rover50]

Keith that's the best bit I still have all the original parts to go back on.

Have you got the original engine still?
If not I have 141802870 that might be close.

Keith

[lro11]

Wow Keith that is close. I have 141800462 the original block thanks anyway.

[123rover50]

Thats even better:)

[lro11]

I can't believe after all these years and different owners the keyring is still the original tag from when I bought my defender

[Seriestwo]

So Today I Purchased 143800068 with the original 2l engine. I posted the pics in the SLOW section of the forum and it wont allow me to repost them in here.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/slow-club-chatter/214266-i-think-i-do-have-problem.html

How many older series 2's in Australia are there?

[JDNSW]

So Today I Purchased 143800068 with the original 2l engine. I posted the pics in the SLOW section of the forum and it wont allow me to repost them in here.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/slow-club-chatter/214266-i-think-i-do-have-problem.html

How many older series 2's in Australia are there?

And I am not allowed to access them. I think that it is possible to repost in another section (reusing the existing file), if you know how. Maybe a moderator can help.

As to how many older Series 2s there are in Australia, probably a bit difficult to say, as a lot of them will be stored, inactive. But although the entire Series 2 production was only three years (1958-61), this was in the period when there were no real alternatives, and sales in Australia were very high, being used by most government departments, as well as being pretty much standard for farmers (at least the better off ones).

But if you include the Series 2a, being sold for three times as long, there are a lot more about. My experience suggests most common are ones from the mid sixties, but again, a lot are inactive. For Series Landrovers in general, Series three are most common actually in use, because they were sold for even longer than 2as and are newer, although the peak sales volumes of Landrovers in Australia was probably in Series 2a times.

John

[Seriestwo]

So this afternoon, I managed to take a couple more pics. I also ordered tonnes of parts.

Chassis No. 143800068
Engine No. 141800650

[russellrovers]

Have you got the original engine still?
If not I have 141802870 that might be close.

Keith what price do you have i41 jim

[JDNSW]

..... I also ordered tonnes of parts.

........

Shoouldn't that be "tons", not "tonnes", when talking about a Series 2?

John

[Loubrey]

Hi All,

As per the instruction on the first post of this thread, the full list to date copied and pasted and my vehicle added.

142800016 (bulletproof) engine 141800023 and gearbox 141800011
142800417 (stevep) "Cowra"
143800259 (Shonky) "Gus"
143800263 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800292
143800299
143800310 on eBay April '09
143800359 (Sth65Pacific) *for sale May '09*
143800384 on eBay November '09
143800386 (Lordmacclesfield)
143800391 (formerly owned by lro11)
143800452 (Loubrey) "Dumble"
143800485 (dickyjoe)
143800557 (gromit)
143800622 (Seriestwo) "Ralph"

I've obviously posted a seperate thread when I got my Series II "Dumble" early in December, but seeing as this thread is still alive I'll list him here as well.

"Dumble" hails from a farming community named Dumbleyung in the WA wheatbelt and while I haven't had the opportunity to track down much information, I certainly intend to do so.

He is vehicle number 143800452 and he has his original 2.0 liter engine 141802335. In fact every single component other than the dynamo shows manufacture date as 1958 and even the two pieces of windscreen glass and fixed side windows dates from Jan/Feb/Mar 1958.

Cheers,

Lou

[gromit]

143800582 currently up for sale on Ebay, also listed in Markets (Marketplace Alerts).


Colin