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4bee
25th March 2009, 05:57 AM
A bloke on another forum (UK) has been complaining about his door locks failing & he says they are different to the earlier D1 with the small spring problem.
Cannot be repaired only replaced, & that's what he is a bit rotten on as the 2nd one has gone in a matter of weeks.
I haven't ever noticed any posts here about this, so are they really a problem here?
Thanks.
FenianEel
25th March 2009, 07:47 AM
A bloke on another forum (UK) has been complaining about his door locks failing & he says they are different to the earlier D1 with the small spring problem.
Cannot be repaired only replaced, & that's what he is a bit rotten on as the 2nd one has gone in a matter of weeks.
I haven't ever noticed any posts here about this, so are they really a problem here?
Thanks.
Yup! They are a pain in the hole.
I've replaced all four so far on a 02 model. There are a few things that go with them. I think there have been several posts on here.
Never had a prob with the rear door, which a lot of people seem to have (touch wood).
4bee
25th March 2009, 09:15 AM
Thanks Fen. He kept going on about "made of cheese" "designed by muppets" etc etc.:D
Are they really that crap then?
feral
25th March 2009, 10:09 AM
My locks has one problem since I purchased the vehicle in 2003.
The rear right passenger door lock will tend to open on the third push of the remote. I call it the extra security device as all the others open as per LR design.
I have never replaced a lock. Too scared to break off the interior door panel to get to them.:p
Hay Ewe
25th March 2009, 02:20 PM
Our drivers door stopped about 2 weeks after we brought it secound hand and then soon after the rear right hand door lock stopped working.
we used the key for the drivers door after pressing the unlock button twice and then got it fixed, the rear right hand, still doesnt work because there are only two of us and rearly and more
April 2004 build TD5
sparks
25th March 2009, 05:58 PM
We had problems with the car alarm going off randomly.
I traced to a faulty switch in the rear passenger side door lock mechanism.
( Door closed switch )
I have not replaced the lock mechanism yet,just disconnected the switch input at a connector under the dash.
Garry
2001 TD5 Discovery
wozapinin
27th March 2009, 03:04 PM
on my 4.0 d2 both the passenger side locks don't open with remote. Don't auto lock when moving either. But not a bad thing, if i'm out with SWMBO, and she gets her hackles up, i can jump in and drive off with her bashing on the window;)
DJ1979
27th March 2009, 06:45 PM
Depends on the problem.
Door lock not popping up is one problem.
Not popping up quite enough is another.
My D1 had the 2nd problem on 3 doors, so had to unlock with the remote (disable alarm) and then by key which makes the knob bit go up all the way and the door can be opened.
This problem is caused by little round spring things.
Found a guy on ebay who sells the springs by the car, or by specific door. He also sells the clips for the door trims, all up was about $60 for 2 packs of clips and springs for all 5 doors.
Pretty easy to fix, front door was painful as the door fram has to lifted up and I don't have torgue screw bits.....
However, the end result is bloody fantastic. Now if only my cruise control would work on a regular basis...
wardy1
27th March 2009, 07:49 PM
I refuse to get involved in this as I haven't.................nah won't go there LOL
alanbettison
27th March 2009, 08:39 PM
d2 door lock are crap - had to replace 4
Bytemrk
27th March 2009, 10:00 PM
I refuse to get involved in this as I haven't.................nah won't go there LOL
Wardy!... after that, you are sure to have half a problem .........soon :p
Mark
Disco Mick
8th June 2009, 10:30 PM
My passengers front door lock won't open on central locking. You can pop the lock by pulling the door handle inside but you can't pull the door lock pin up to release it.
It's a pain because I have to reach across and pull the door handle if a passenger wants to get in.
Where's the best place to get a replacement lock from? What would I expect to pay?
Has any one done a How-To on replacing the lock?
Cheers
Michael
DeanoH
8th June 2009, 11:08 PM
Occasionally drivers or passenger door won't unlock, usually when someone is trying to open when unlocking using remote. I put it down to computer type confusion problem as locking/unlocking using key fixes the problem.
What is a real problem though is rear door mechanism failure when driving on outback roads. This is an ongoing problem. Dust gets sucked into the rear door lock mechanism making it increasingly difficult to open the rear door. After a couple of hundred K's on outback roads SWMBO can't open the rear door. I can as I have larger stronger hands. SWMBO isn't a weakling its just that the mechanism glugs up. I'm not game to use lubricant as I reckon this will only make it worse by retaining even more dust into the mechanism. idea...Might try powdered graphite next time I pull it to bits. This eventually gets to the stage where the rear door cannot be opened from outside the car and I need to open it from the inside. Pulling the mechanism to bits every so often and cleaning it seems to be the only remedy. This would be a major problem if I had a cargo barrier and couldn't get into the rear.
Deano
stevep
10th June 2009, 02:57 PM
D2 99 TD5 - drivers door will not unlock with remote, locks with remote, but key will unlock. Rear drivers side door will not unlock with remote but will lock, have to reach over to unlock with interior handle. I have been told that drivers door has to be replaced by OEM - about $250 for part. Rear drivers door can be replaced by not genuine part but have to find one that fits. Its been like this for a couple of years.
Hope this helps
Steve
Disco Mick
10th June 2009, 03:46 PM
Mine is doing much the same thing. The passengers front door will lock with the remot but not unlock. You have to use the inside handle to get it to unlock.
Looking for the best price and place to buy a new lock from.
Cheers
Michael.
trog
14th June 2009, 12:16 PM
what solutions are available for a rear door that will unlock as per the remote but the handle doesn't catch to release the door. This happens randomly and when last service was on "won't open mode" but thr MR boys found nothing wrong. Almost wish i could put my D1 door on and return to a mechanical system. Aside from a large hammer what are the options available?
DiscoCam
15th June 2009, 10:45 PM
Discovered the exact same problem with my RH rear door on the weekend. Sounds like the actuator is working but won't lift the button. Locks fine and door can be opened with the handle from inside.
Has anyone successfully serviced these or found a viable replacement? On rave it looks like a p.i.t.a to get out. Will have to make one of those trim breakers/lifters:mad:.
Discocam
2 rocks
15th June 2009, 11:41 PM
Yep, first had this problem about 2 years ago - right after buying the car. Driver's door - had to disarm with keyfob and then unlock with the key to get in, a pain but I could deal with it until the actuator mechanism/lock was replaced.
At present the passenger door is doing it...and of course has no key lock, so yes leaning over to unlock via the internal lever. Once to unlock, twice to open.
The rear door lever not engaging is sometimes a different issue, more to do with dirt/dust ingress into the mechanism, I think there's a thread or two about this...well the clean and lube fixed mine anyway. :)
Cheers
Mike
FenianEel
16th June 2009, 05:59 PM
Think we need to find a supplier and do a 'group buy' on these friggin things :D
My passenger front and rear are doing this.
Hay Ewe
15th September 2009, 08:10 AM
Both of my rear doors are now not unlocking, but I need to try the three or four presses of the key fob and the internal button as well.
Oh well, atelast I now have the Disco 2 I want - three door version.....
(there are only two of us so its not usually a problem)
Hay Ewe
alien
15th September 2009, 04:34 PM
I refuse to get involved in this as I haven't.................nah won't go there LOL
I know I shouldn't ask for the above quoted reason, touching wood,touching wood,still touching wood.
BUT,
Has anyone tried the spray with CRC/WD40 and lube with graphite powder as done on the rear(5th) door?
Curious thats all, touching more wood.
Cheers.
Disco Mick
9th October 2009, 10:42 PM
Well I got sick of reaching over to unlock the passengers door. I ordered a new original door lock mechanism from British4WD in Tasmania. Good service and good price. The part arrived at my office the next day.
This afternoon I fitted it. A bit fiddly and required the door trim, and door mirror to be removed. Next unbolt the window frame and slide it up about 12". This gives enough room to slide the door lock mechanism out as it wraps around the rear post of the window frame. There's 5 bolts to undo to lift the frame up. 2 at the bottom of the frame posts inside the door. 2 torx head bolts on the ends of the door near the top and one bolt hiding just below the door mirror.
All done now and it works a treat. Just got to wait for the next one to fail.
Cheers
Michael
fatman
10th October 2009, 12:16 AM
After the first time,it's dead easy!!
I attached a pdf file (for the rear door lock),at the project and tutorials section.
Can somebody post the link for the above,before i break my pc?? Please??
DiscoNZ
21st March 2010, 02:11 PM
what solutions are available for a rear door that will unlock as per the remote but the handle doesn't catch to release the door. This happens randomly and when last service was on "won't open mode" but thr MR boys found nothing wrong. Almost wish i could put my D1 door on and return to a mechanical system. Aside from a large hammer what are the options available?
I have an issue like this on my 2001 Disco 2, the tab will pop up showing the door is unlocked but neither the interior or exterior handle works. This is not intermitant. If I push down the tab that locks the door then pull the interior handle it will pop back up again but the door will not open. I think this issue was caused by someone pulling the handle to open the door and the central locking button to unlock the door being pressed at the same time. Have looked at pulling off the interior door trim to manually spring the lock but its a bit difficult to get at and avoid damaging the trim. Is it possible to spring the opening mechanism somehow?
CJT
21st March 2010, 05:35 PM
I have had the same issue on the boot door lock randomly not opening for a few weeks and then working again.
I managed to get it open and removed and cleaned the lock, all was good for a few weeks and then the problem came back.
Even though nothing appeared to be wrong with the lock itself I still decided to replace it and have not had an issue yet.
I wanted to have this fixed before I put the drawers and barrier in, as once they are in there is no real way to get the door open if the latch sticks.
Dorian
21st March 2010, 09:09 PM
Get problems like this on rear door. Eventually found two parts to the solution. External Mechanism gets rusted, friend suggested mixing up Wax with petrol, this lets you spray the stuff with a trigger bottle into the handle mechanism and leaves the wax there to lubricate. Some guy up on frasier showed me the following trick, push in and up on the door before you try to open the door. You may not have the same problem but this has worked for me for a few years now.
John W
21st March 2010, 09:57 PM
My rear door goes spastic on me if I do a lot on dirt. Have to give a real push (closing action) on the rear door and hope that takes the pressure off the lock enough to get it to open. Then I just get in with a water hose or even just a water bottle and squirt all the mechanism and that settles it down. Once it happens I give it a squirt every day I remain on the dirt. Same for the little strut mechanism under the door that keeps it open. I figure water will dry quickly and not accumulate dirt.
DiscoNZ
30th March 2010, 07:10 PM
My rear door goes spastic on me if I do a lot on dirt. Have to give a real push (closing action) on the rear door and hope that takes the pressure off the lock enough to get it to open. Then I just get in with a water hose or even just a water bottle and squirt all the mechanism and that settles it down. Once it happens I give it a squirt every day I remain on the dirt. Same for the little strut mechanism under the door that keeps it open. I figure water will dry quickly and not accumulate dirt.
Problem fixed (maybe only temporarily) Cheers Mate!
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